P/S pump

[ClemsonCruiser]

I have a 77FJ40, It is has the factory p/s setup minus the actual pump, and yes i know that p/s was not facorty until 79. When I say factory i mean not saginaw or something else. I was told also by the previous owner that the setup was pulled off a later FJ40. My question is can I take any p/s say like from a yota mini or a fj60/62 or any toyota for that matter and use it. Or do I have to find one that came with the 40's. I would assume that any toyota p/s of the early 1980's would do? Also where is a good place to find a p/s pump, I see a few advertised like on cruiserparts.net and other sites, but as always I am looking for the cheapest route. Would finding a mini in the junk yard be the best way to go, assuming the p/s pump would fit from a mini. If anyone has a used one for sale please let me know.

Thanks for the help
JP

 

[lx450landcruiser]

what exactly are you trying to gain from the pump swap? is your old pump bad? were you happy with your original pump or do you want more? i just did a toyota min power steering set up on my cruiser and i used a chevy pump to the toyota box and with the pumps higher out put the cruiser turns my 35inch tiers on pavement with mo problem.
chevy pumps are usualy a dime a dozen and can be found all over the place. were ou trying to use the same toyota pump bracket and that why you want a toyota pump?


mike

 

[ClemsonCruiser]

I am not trying to swap anything, My cruiser came without a pump, but has the rest of the P/S set up. So I just need a pump. Toyota is great, but if it is easier/cheaper to get a chevy pump that is just fine with me. However if I go with a chevy pump won't I have to modify how the pump attaches to the engine block?

 

[lx450landcruiser]

well it depends again. did your cruiser come with the pump bracket? you say everyt hing but the pump? to the power steering line is there also? if the pressure line is there and still in good shape and you have the bracket maybe toyota is a better idea however it may or my not be more expensive depending on what junk yard you go to. the chevy pump would need a diff bracket but there certainly not hard to make if you can weld you could prob even have a shop weld u one for cheep. i think some one makes one already? jt outfitters? however if you do the chevy pump youll need a new pressure line with with a chevy thred size on one side and a toyota on the other. you can have those made or Jt outfitters sells them. the advantage to the chevy is it much more powerful but if your not running large tirers or anything it may not matter.

mike

 

[wdorry]

I make the brackets for mounting the saginaw pump and mini gearbox. If you want you can read feedback on them on this board. You dont't have to remove the head bolts to mount my pump bracket.
If you want to see them and the 76FJ 40 I'm selling go to the below web site.
The brackets are $95.00 each plus shipping (pump or gearbox) or $175.00 plus shipping if you buy both. Price includes the hardware to mount the brackets.
Thanks Bill

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/wdorry/my_photos

 

[dylan]

i used a mini truck pump (an '84) but i don't recomend it. it was hard to install and has a narrower pulley.

 

[PabloCruise]

JP - or others,
I want to know how you are mounting the Toy PS pump to your '77 2F block?
Pictures?
I want to put 60 series PS on my '78 40 but need to retain the air pump. My block is not tapped for factory PS.
I know, I know, sag pumps are infinitely superior pumps. I wish to remain inferior.
Can anyone help a brother out? How can I mount that pump, keep my air pump on my '78 block?
Thanks,

 

[65swb45]

As far as ClemsonCruiser's sit goes, you ought to be able to save some cash and do the Saginaw pump to the Toy ps box. IIRC, there's even a pic on the SOR website now where they show an FJ60 upgraded with a Saginaw pump.

 

[PabloCruise]

Understood the sag is a viable pump option.

Looking for a bracket to mount minitruck/celica pump on a 2F.

Anyone?

 

[PabloCruise]

I guess we are looking up a dead horse's ass here...

 

[zebrabeefj40]

PabloCruise,

When your collecting your FJ60 parts grab the P/S pump mount and pump too. Then drill and tap the block to mount them in the stock location. IIRC the pads for the pump mounting holes are there but not drilled and tapped. Do your own drilling and tapping and you have the stock deal; smog pump and all. Otherwise fire up your welder and make a set of brackets to fit your situation. Not too many other options after that...


Nick Jennings

 

[Doug_S]

I'd be very careful about drilling and tapping the block. If you're too deep you're in trouble (hit an oil galley or the water jacket) and if you're too shallow the bolts will pull out. A much better option IMHO is to either buy a bracket or fabricate your own. Remember folks, that we are adapting an engineered assembly and need to make sure that in the process we aren't destroying something important like the block. My two cents...

 

[PabloCruise]

I appreciate it Doug. Drill and tap on the block seems a little extreme on an engine I rebuilt 20k ago. If it were on last legs or I had an extra '79+ block sitting around that would be different.

Just looking to avoid re-inventing the wheel if someone already solved this prob. Doesn't look like this is the case.

I'll get booty-fabbin' and let you all know how things come out.