Ol' Blue, my 68' fj40 project

[Zane]

VERY COOL!!! I still have my first pinewood derby car. I'm a very strong believer in scouting. I cant begin to tell you how many interviews I have gotten because of being an eagle scout! Cant wait to start making pinewood derby cars with my own son's.

 

[FlatlandTRD]

My son and I worked on his first pinewood derby car.

Striking resemblence to the Landspeeder

 

[2fpower]

Yes it was very cool. I actually still have both of my original derby cars, and they let us race each other. It was very neat to be able to have that time with him in the shop, and to be able to span the generation with a race.

He kicked my a%$..... such mixed feelings .... smashed ego or proud dad.

 

[2fpower]

10 days until I get to start making progress on this project.

Erik- you have any days available for the knuckle/axle/brakes swap?

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

pick your poison.. been working on my own area. I am going out of town to watch the sun come up the openening weekend of turkey season.. weekend of the 22nd of April.. (I know not exactly what you wanted to hear is it! considering that's the first real weekend off for you)

If you would rather take an actual "Day" off during the week that can be arranged as well (I probably have 6 weeks banked)... Your place or mine doesn't matter.. I moved my workbench just need to make a spot for it and it'll be avail. it's approx 3/4 plate steel on top so it can easily support your axle. Or are we building it under the truck?
Do you happen to have the new inner marlin double lip seals yet? If not holler I need a set as well and will gladly split shipping costs if you order. Can you renew my knowledge of the pieces you have and what years we're putting together so I can insure our parts list is complete and I can line up the "goods". .

 

[2fpower]

The axle is out of my 75'. It is off the vehicle, cleaned, sandblasted, por15 done. The mini truck axle is also loose. Have not pulled anything apart.

I do not have any seals for it. Let me know what I owe you for them. I did buy the full rebuild kit from Toyota for the 68' axle, (that I can return) as you have convinced me to do this conversion. If they are the same seals, we could use them. It was $100 for the full knuckle rebuild kit for both sides.

I hate to ask you to take a day off, however, I can do that. I do want to learn and do everything as this is likely the first of many rebuilds.

My house would be fine; however if I am at your place we could try to split the day and work on your walls too.

I cant do it the 20th, but otherwise I can do it anytime from the 19th to the end of the month.

Oh, and I asked Zane to give you my ARB stuff for me to pick up when we get together. (Not for this build, for my other project car)

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

No problem on storing your stuff from Zane.. It is getting busy in there with an ARB Bumper and full suspension for another club member and my stuff ..
Seals etc will work I have paper gaskets. Lemme check the "calender", we'll confirm some dates. FYI the 26-28th April are open for sure. Probably not evenings but days are off normal job.

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

If you could put the diff in the 75 front axle you plan on using, (if you wanna wait that's fine bring with)
pull the minitruck axle apart, clean and label everything, zip tie the shims to the steering arms
You'll want to paint the knuckle housing and arms
Clean and paint the backing plate or we can use deletes but you'll need to replace my spare set.
Lemme know once you have the minitruck knuckles apart, I need to know if the rotors are pressed in or bolted in.
WE'll need new rotors from Rockauto. Approx $20 a side. I do have one at the house (yes one)
I will also send you for new calipers as well. Prep is the key. We'll build it on the bench.
Seperate the old course spline birfs from thier inner shafts, label them with a paint pen, FJ40 L, R
Seperate the minitruck inner shafts from their outters, label as well.
(tip on seperating, fence pipe or schedule 40 whatever it is.. Put inner into pipe, slam down. I will verify I have spare inner clips. I should.
Report back. you should have time after taxes to prep this stuff..
We also need a shim to use FJ40 tierods Will report back on source.
Cut the banana arm off the Driver side minitruck arm as well in your chop saw.
How's that for a starter list to get you going.??

 

[2fpower]

It that all you got player!!!

I thought you had game!!

Oh yeah, even though I am absolutely exhausted, that sounds like a bunch of fun. I was planning on using the existing diff, the one from the 75' is 4.11, and the specs say my rear from the 68' should be the same. So, if I hear you correctly, I don't need anything off the 68' axle.

I may have lied about por15 the axle. I may have just sandblasted then sprayed with cheap paint to hold it for a while while I changed direction of project.

attached are pics of the minitruck axle if that helps.

I have new calipers maybe.... will the minitruck be the same as a 79' fj? Other wise shoot me part numbers. Do I recall that you can get from toyota red powdercoated trd version for reasonable amount?

New rotors, do you have a part number to order from ROCK? I can order an extra for you, so you have a set.

Will report back.

 

[2fpower]

Oh yeah. Anybody near lenexa have a parts washer? and like free (good) beer?

Kelly

 

[Acadia]

Free Beer???

I like free beer!!! Sorry no parts washer though

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Oh yeah. Anybody near lenexa have a parts washer? and like free (good) beer?

Kelly

 

[2fpower]

I offered several years ago, that anyone was welcome to stop by the shop and have a beer.... and oh yeah, I will pick your brain on that wiring harness you just made.

I think I have an extra pair of wire strippers. (Settle down... I know I said strippers.... quit it!)

k

 

[MOfj40]

Oh yeah. Anybody near lenexa have a parts washer? and like free (good) beer?

Kelly

Coincidentally, I know this local guy with a sizable industrial maintenance shop at his disposal 24/7. I'm pretty sure that it has a large parts washer and he works for beer...

 

[2fpower]

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha....

You are a good friend, and a damn good friend to have.

Sorry that I have been so darn busy to get together. Give me another week.

I am headed to the doctor to see if they will put an IV drip in my arm so I can mainline caffeine.


k

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

harbor freight has parts washers pretty cheap. grab a 20% off coupon in many magazines or online.
Do you have the steering arms for the axle? if not we'll need those and cone washers. (report back)
Calipers for Minitruck were for non-vented rotors, thus we'll upgrade. 79 calipers will be fine (they're for vented) but if they're questionable we'll upgrade to 4runner calipers. I probably have a core set you can use if needed. (cores cost more than the actual caliper)

On that minitruck axle, take out the 8 small 10mm bolts on the felt wiper retainer on the back. Pivot the birf till the flat side is lined up with the hole in the top where the knuckle bearings are, pivot the whole knuckle down and off. Might need to take off the hub face and remove the snap ring, leaving the birf and inner in the axle till the knuckle is off.

So you have calipers, check condition, new reman are $47 a side. Lemme know on steering arms. If you have steering arms we'll do shim, if not we'll do new, no shim. Dangit I got rid of 3 sets of steering arms recently. I don't think i have anymore sitting around.

Take a picture of the face of that rotor on the minitruck please. From hub looking at rotor, that will tell me what I need to know about rotor.

 

[2fpower]

I have steering arms off all the fj stuff; however, looks like from the pics, that I do not have from the Mini. I thought that I had one side though. Likely no cone washers from that side, maybe from the other???

I will take pic of the calipers that I have in the box and see if I can find a part number. They are brand new.

Pic on the rotor, will take me a while. I strapped it to a pallet and put it on top of my shelving behind all sorts of stuff. Likely end of next week before I will have time to dig it out.

Thanks for all your help. You make it sound easy. Right now most of what you type sounds german to me, I look forward to be able to discuss this someday and look back and think how uneducated I was.

Cheers!

 

[2fpower]

dirty porn

Here is the pics of the old dirty mini as requested.

 

[2fpower]

clean porn

Here are pics of the calipers I have

 

[2fpower]

If it helps identify the calipers, the brake pads are still in the box with a part number MKD137

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

exactly what i needed.. Will report back on rotor needs. Did you find steering arms? I have not looked to see if I have any left, sorry was plumbing a sink.
Rotors are fine, exactly what is needed. Might need a hardware kit for the calipers but that has nothing to do with building this axle and getting it together.