New to the FJ60 world, come share my pain (1 Viewer)

[NLXTACY]

i liked her already when i met her at the shop but this confirms it........

Yup, she's cute AND cool, I think I'll keep her.

 

[orangefj45]

bawahahahaha, she's not getting any freebies either, sorry!

 

[Joe_E]

Looks like the the throw out bearing was history. Must look nice where the shot bearing and fork were trying to turn the clutch fingers into shredded wheat..

 

[orangefj45]

ding, ding, ding. we have a winner! but why did the throwout bearing fail?!

 

[orangefj45]

here's the last clue:

 

[orangefj45]

wow, these pics really suck. i'll try to do better next time. here's the trans after i removed it from the rig. lots and lots of reddish clay and oil..........

 

[D'Animal]

Let me take a stab a the guessing.

Somebody drove through some really deep mud and tried to shift gears while submerged. The mud and debris got between the pressure plate and flywheel. The presure plate wore way down and allowed the tension forks to over extend and break off. Or the debri held it back and pushed the pressure plate agains the throw out bearing until it began rubbing on the input shaft spacer.

 

[orangefj45]

great theory but you're WRONG also!

 

[orangefj45]

alright, so here goes. i think the throw-out bearing support ( snout on the front of the transmission front bearing retainer ) broke off after having been cracked due to an improper previous clutch replacement attempt.
this in turn caused a mis-alignment of the throwout bearing to the pressure plate, causing the bearing to fail and wear thru the clutch diaphram fingers.
either way, it's fubar'd. but i have another front bearing retainer and clutch kit in stock. right now i'm waiting for a new front seal and bearing retainer gasket from toyota and the trans will be ready to go back in. both the trans and t-case were low on oil but the oil did'nt look bad so i;m not sure if it was'nt filled all the way or if there's a leak. i did'nt see any obvious signs of leakage. i did replace both t-case output seals since they were rock-hard.
once we get the new clutch and geartrain back in the rig we can take it for a test drive and see what else we need to fix.
the list right now:
carb colling fan bad ( already replaced yesterday )
carb cooling fan connector melted ( fixed yesterday )
bad front alternator bearing; alt will be replaced later this week
bad smog pump, will be ........
bad ps pump, ..........
knuckles leak but nothing major
suspension bushings are wasted
hood prop missing
smog valve broken; already replaced
a few smog lines cracked, missing or dangling; already taken care of
rear pinion leaking badly; waiting for a new seal and stake-nut from the dealer
wrong combination of ac compressor and alt bracket as well as pulleys; replacements have been located

and a few other odds and ends.

the good news is that the engine had plenty of oil in it, good oil pressure and the compression test came out great; 150-165psi in all 6 cylinders. so keep your fingers crossed!

last pic for the day:

 

[CaliCruiser]

btw; i know for a fact that Dboz and calicruiser take great care of their rigs. i know both of them and have seen/worked on their cruisers.

Thanks Georg I appreciate it!

WOW that thing got abused since we owned like 5 years ago, I can't believe how bad they let that deteriorate. Just goes to show what simple maintenance can do if neglected long enough. On a side note I do have the 4 speed I took out my 6o during the 5 speed swap, and I'll sell it to you cheap if you need it.

Oh ya, and we're not that redneck up here


Dylan

 

[CruisinFJ60]

From what I can tell both the slave and master are both fine and there is plenty of fluid BUT I didn't have another person around so I really can't be 100% positive. I did know before buying it that the throw out bearing was making noise. When I finally test drove it myself it didn't sound as bad as I thought it was going to be. In fact any throw out bearing issues didn't translate itself through the stick. In other words I couldn't feel a wobbly bearing through the stick shift. What sucks is I could replace all of this myself but I couldn't take a bag of tools on the plane so I had nothing in the truck.

My guess was gonna be the throught bearing failed but it was revealed already... and also with a bad throughout you wouldnt feel it in the shifter... it would be felt in the pedal if anything.

This would be a negative. At the point I left the truck you could no longer get the truck into gear, at all, any gear. And the retched smell of burning clutch was really overpowering. Something locked up. Even though its technically in neutral, the tow operator and I could not push it. But the winch could get it to roll when it was getting onto the flatbed.

mine did the same thing as you describe above in both post. it turned out to be my throughout bearing came apart and no longer hit on the clutch fork, it died died on the tollway in dallas, so i shut it off stuck it in gear and started it up, shifted it with no clutch the 25 miles home too, only thing that sucked was stoplights having to shut it off and start it back up, so it was kinda a slow take off process but on the road was no biggie.

the three images are of my T/O bearing after i got it home then proceded to drive it yet another 30 miles with no clutch to my new house. Why? cause i knew it would go so why not drive it?

 

[Grolar]

Just noticed this thread today. This is a lot of fun and reads like a crime novel...
So where's the rig now?

 

[NLXTACY]

Hey Grolar, welcome back to the U.S.!

The um...truck...is STILL in freaking Stockton. I am placing a call, right now as a matter of fact, to Georg to verify I am hoping onto an Amtrack tomorrow to go pick this bad boy up.

I will later go into some excruciating detail of what's been done once it actually sees my driveway.

 

[Dynosoar]

When I was in collage my 60 did that. The cheap replacement (Chinese) TO bearing seized. I was broke at the time and could not afford to fix it properly (Toyota parts). So I only used the clutch with the seized bearing for 1st and reverse. Eventually (about a year later) the bearing finally machined its way through the fingers on the pressure plate. I was able to pry the TO bearing out of the pressure plate and tie the throw out arm back and still drove it for a few thousand miles by shutting the engine off at a red light then starting it in gear. Ahhh... the good old days.


Dynosoar

 

[NLXTACY]

See thats fine....as long as you dont sell it to someone else with that problem.

 

[ToyotaDon]

Can't say I told you so, but my first email to Zach asked how driveable it was with a bad TO bearing.
He never replied, 'cause you were already talking to him.

Sounds like fun, keep the story coming!

 

[NLXTACY]

I said one thing to him before flying out there:

"Please make sure that I can at least drive it home, as long as it ends up in MY driveway."

Yeah not so much. I can't begin to b1tch about the things he did NOT tell me about. But whatever, truck is mine and Georg has been awesome. I am actually leaving tomorrow first thing in the morning to grab a bus then the train to go back up to Stockton. This time with my son, some cash, my phone charger and anti-tweeker spray.

 

[ToyotaDon]

Honk as you fly...err, whatever... past Visalia.

 

[NLXTACY]

I'll wave as I'm on the train and then honk as I am pleasurably driving what will feel like a brand new 60

 

[D'Animal]

Good point.

Although I-5 looks good on a map and is quicker. You may want to stick to hwy99. A lot more mudders live off of hwy 99 and there are a lot more towns.


I-5 is pretty bare.

Honk as you fly...err, whatever... past Visalia.