My Truck Thinks I'm Skidding When Turning Right...

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It would be a good idea to do a zero point calibration, while in TS. Found in ABS tab.
I had a bit of time to take a run at this. Kind of a +/- for me. The reset part seemed to work but the ZPC part only partially worked. The ABS light flashed to signal that part was done but the VSC light never did even though the pop up window says it was supposed to and a second pop up saying calibration was complete and to wait 2 seconds before exiting. The - part is that now the VSC lights are both on permanently whereas they weren't before. The + part is that now I don't have to deal with VSC going off on right turns. I hope to have some time tomorrow to check the wheel bearings and tie rods for play.
 
I'd do a health check (check for codes), clear all DTC then run ZPC again.
 
I'd do a health check (check for codes), clear all DTC then run ZPC again.
I try again today. I forgot to mention, I checked codes before running the first time and this code(with freeze frame) was present. I cleared it before running the ZPC.

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Did C1234 return?
If same ZPC result, with same VSC lights, same DTC. I'd go into FSM diagnostic for C1234 DTC, and follow the tree.
 

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Did C1234 return?
If same ZPC result, with same VSC lights, same DTC. I'd go into FSM diagnostic for C1234 DTC, and follow the tree.
I'm digging in now. I'll report back. BTW, I go in the truck this morning and the VSC lights were off. They didn't turn back on for the duration of my drive. VSC didn't kick in on right turns either, but it was cold out and it hasn't triggered when cold since this all began.
 

Sanke 555 SB3812 I get from NAPA
 
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See my "Master Thread" link below. Look under "ball joints". Read through those threads, to find various pullers that can be used.
 
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I wonder if the other replacement racks were Toyota? One part I would not replace with aftermarket.
 
I wonder if the other replacement racks were Toyota? One part I would not replace with aftermarket.
I’ve been running a Cardone rack for 60k miles and it’s been great. At the time it was half the price of a reman Toyota rack, and it has a lifetime warranty.
 
I’ve been running a Cardone rack for 60k miles and it’s been great. At the time it was half the price of a reman Toyota rack, and it has a lifetime warranty.
"lifetime warranty" The only problem with that on a rack is that you have to take out the rack to send in so your truck is down until replacement, unless they send you a replacement and you send yours back after. That said, if the rack lasts only as long as an OEM rack, it's definitely worth the price!
 
Budget, is often a deciding factor in parts selection.

OEM R&P offer the best rubber bushing, inner TRE and boots. Aftermarket & remans R&P, some of those parts are Chinese junk.

One issue I see, when not new OEM R&P. I get a bit of steering wheel wiggle/play. Feels like bad u-joint in intermediate shaft, but isn't. Seems to be issue with preload on pinion or may be with tolerance of mesh between pinion gear and rack splines.

Most R&P installed by INDY shops, are aftermarket. They charge just about the same, as if OEM. If I was to pay some to R&R my R&P. I'd request OEM.

The one R&P, I may save a few hundred bucks on. Would be standard 03-07 Toyota R&P, in place of Lexus VGRS R&P. But even then. If you want, as engineers' designed for. VGRS R&P is best in the LX 03-up.
 
So you swapped in poly bushings and removed the front sway bar and this started?
Sway bar came off first because trail damage. Ran with no skidding issues until installing poly rack bushings 6 months later. My old rack bushings were in fine shape, I just thought I wanted the poly. I did(do) not, actually, want the poly.
 
So, a little extra info on my specific issue since I finally got under the truck this weekend...

I jacked up the front end to get started on the diff drop installation and torsion bar swap and decided to check on wheel bearings and such while it was in the air. Apparently the outer tie rod on the driver's side was pretty loose, allowing me to move the wheel quite a bit when off the ground, and that was with the cotter pin/castle nut in place. Not sure if I just somehow didn't ever get it tight enough or if it shifted somehow, but I was able to get another couple of full turns on the castle nut and finally got it tight, but it looks like the cotter pin hole was drilled too high and it doesn't really do anything to constrain the castle nut. (new toyota outer tie rod)

Other than just tightening that nut back to spec, any recommendations on keeping it from backing off given the cotter pin issue?
 
So, a little extra info on my specific issue since I finally got under the truck this weekend...

I jacked up the front end to get started on the diff drop installation and torsion bar swap and decided to check on wheel bearings and such while it was in the air. Apparently the outer tie rod on the driver's side was pretty loose, allowing me to move the wheel quite a bit when off the ground, and that was with the cotter pin/castle nut in place. Not sure if I just somehow didn't ever get it tight enough or if it shifted somehow, but I was able to get another couple of full turns on the castle nut and finally got it tight, but it looks like the cotter pin hole was drilled too high and it doesn't really do anything to constrain the castle nut. (new toyota outer tie rod)

Other than just tightening that nut back to spec, any recommendations on keeping it from backing off given the cotter pin issue?
Now you know, why Toyota has torque spec. We torque to spec 90ft-lbf. Then continue tightening if needed, until pin hole lines up.
The cotter pins are hole, is high. But they work with large diameter cotter pins, just fine.
 
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I have replaced both lower control arms and bushing #2 for both sides. The left side was very loose, the right was loose but not as bad. Thanks to @2001LC for the input that made it easier. I haven’t had any of the VSC issues but I’m not convinced the problem is solved. The VSC and VSC TRAC OFF lights did come on once. They went away when restarting the truck. I still have to replace the tcase sensor and will do that when I get the right part and return home in a week.
 
So, a little extra info on my specific issue since I finally got under the truck this weekend...

I jacked up the front end to get started on the diff drop installation and torsion bar swap and decided to check on wheel bearings and such while it was in the air. Apparently the outer tie rod on the driver's side was pretty loose, allowing me to move the wheel quite a bit when off the ground, and that was with the cotter pin/castle nut in place. Not sure if I just somehow didn't ever get it tight enough or if it shifted somehow, but I was able to get another couple of full turns on the castle nut and finally got it tight, but it looks like the cotter pin hole was drilled too high and it doesn't really do anything to constrain the castle nut. (new toyota outer tie rod)

Other than just tightening that nut back to spec, any recommendations on keeping it from backing off given the cotter pin issue?
I have added a large washer under the castle nut in the past to make the cotter pin hole useful.
 
I have added a large washer under the castle nut in the past to make the cotter pin hole useful.
I may have to do that. I think what may have happened, when I was tightening it before, is that the post was possibly turning keeping the nut from actually tightening. However, now that it's fully tight, the cotter pin hole is fully above the castellations on the nut. Looks like a washer is going to be about my only option for the pin to be useful.
 
Large washer interesting idea. But there is no need for it!

We only need to torque castle nut to spec and the proper size cotter pin.

The castle nut torque to spec of 90ft-lbf plus. Will seat TRE stud in steering arm properly. The cotter pin, is just a back-out safety. The closed end loop, of cotter pin. Should be, turned parallel to stud in castle nut notch. One leg of cotter pin bend down in other side of castle nut in its notch. The other leg over the top of stud. Size of cotter pin, is key to proper fitment.
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Torque wrenches should be, in every tool box. They should be used on every assemble. Digital are best, but even clicker or needle pointer work.

I really hate it when I see written step by step or instructional videos. That do not, state or show a torque wrench in use during assembly. Torque spec are important: They insure, fasteners has proper holding pressure. I know many think they've a good feel. Or say, I never break a bolt or strip threads or Good Enough. WRONG!. How does one even know the "feel", if they never even used a torque wrench. It's less about not breaking or stripping fasteners. More about proper and equal clamping pressure.

Torque wrenches, must used correctly. We hold at handle, at marked point on handle. We turn very slowly, as we come up to spec torque. We reduce torque for lubed threads, when spec doesn't call for lube (sealer, loctite) on threads. If angle, i.e. swivel exceed max allowable (~5 degrees) we increase torque. Which chats on how much increase, are available online. Long skinny extensions, may flex, so avoid their use. Dog leg if not called for, also need avoiding

Here's some, off topic examples, of torque wrench use to insure equal pressure on fasteners:

It's on Automatic transmission (A/T) valve body's (VB). I know, it's unrelated to TRE.
Both use lower-powered torque, power tools, to install bolts. Which manufactures and high volume shop do. They're very clearly, both pro's, with many years of rebuilding A/T experience. Note: Threading bolts on by hand, minimum of three turns, avoids cross threading.

One of these rebuilders IPT, I'd use in a hearth beat. IPT, rebuilds many VB for performance as well as for stock transmission. They show and talk about proper bolt torque of VB and sequence.
One I would not use. He's, procedurally sloppy on VB assembly. So how could expect, good results, with his VB rebuilds. He recommends replacing with new VB.

Here we see IPT, uses a torque wrench on valve body bolts. He also, used a reamers and bore guide tools. His shop specializes, in performance valve bodies and for many many years. You think he, "has the feel" and could do without torque wrench. Sure! But the torque wrench insure proper and equal pressure on all fasteners. I'd hire IPT Performance Transmission to rebuild my A/T and or just valve body in a heart beat.
At 24:48 you'll see torque on valve body bolts, of this full rebuild of valve body video.

At 9:45. Of this R&R of valve body only, torque wrench used.


This shop, shows no torque wrench used. Only snugging each bolt by hand wrench at best, in one of his videos I watched. Another video only used pneumatic wench. No reaming or boring of ports. He stated, all valve body should be replaced. His rebuild valve bodies would obviously, fail to give consistent good results.
Within first 1 minutes, he states: "I still hold to new valve body" (meaning don't rebuild VB, replace it). At 5 min you'll see how he installs bolts (no torque wrench) with just pneumatic wrench. This shop has other videos. I saw one, on just valve body rebuild, another on whole A/T disassemble and another on full A/T rebuilds. One wherein, he finished VB bolts, with a hand ratchet wench snugging, torqueing by feel. Is it any wonder, he implies; don't rebuild VB, replace with new.
 
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Large washer interesting idea. But there is no need for it!

We only need to torque castle nut to spec and the proper size cotter pin.

The castle nut torque to spec of 90ft-lbf plus. Will seat TRE stud in steering arm properly. The cotter pin, is just a back-out safety. The closed end loop, of cotter pin. Should be, turned parallel to stud in castle nut notch. One leg of cotter pin bend down in other side of castle nut in its notch. The other leg over the top of stud. Size of cotter pin, is key to proper fitment.
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Torque wrenches should be, in every tool box. They should be used on every assemble. Digital are best, but even clicker or needle pointer work.

I really hate it when I see written step by step or instructional videos. That do not, state or show a torque wrench in use during assembly. Torque spec are important: They insure, fasteners has proper holding pressure. I know many think they've a good feel. Or say, I never break a bolt or strip threads or Good Enough. WRONG!. How does one even know the "feel", if they never even used a torque wrench. It's less about not breaking or stripping fasteners. More about proper and equal clamping pressure.

Torque wrenches, must used correctly. We hold at handle, at marked point on handle. We turn very slowly, as we come up to spec torque. We reduce torque for lubed threads, when spec doesn't call for lube (sealer, loctite) on threads. If angle, i.e. swivel exceed max allowable (~5 degrees) we increase torque. Which chats on how much increase, are available online. Long skinny extensions, may flex, so avoid their use. Dog leg if not called for, also need avoiding

Here's some, off topic examples, of torque wrench use to insure equal pressure on fasteners:

It's on Automatic transmission (A/T) valve body's (VB). I know, it's unrelated to TRE.
Both use lower-powered torque, power tools, to install bolts. Which manufactures and high volume shop do. They're very clearly, both pro's, with many years of rebuilding A/T experience. Note: Threading bolts on by hand, minimum of three turns, avoids cross threading.

One of these rebuilders IPT, I'd use in a hearth beat. IPT, rebuilds many VB for performance as well as for stock transmission. They show and talk about proper bolt torque of VB and sequence.
One I would not use. He's, procedurally sloppy on VB assembly. So how could expect, good results, with his VB rebuilds. He recommends replacing with new VB.

Here we see IPT, uses a torque wrench on valve body bolts. He also, used a reamers and bore guide tools. His shop specializes, in performance valve bodies and for many many years. You think he, "has the feel" and could do without torque wrench. Sure! But the torque wrench insure proper and equal pressure on all fasteners. I'd hire IPT Performance Transmission to rebuild my A/T and or just valve body in a heart beat.
At 24:48 you'll see torque on valve body bolts, of this full rebuild of valve body video.

At 9:45. Of this R&R of valve body only, torque wrench used.


This shop, shows no torque wrench used. Only snugging each bolt by hand wrench at best, in one of his videos I watched. Another video only used pneumatic wench. No reaming or boring of ports. He stated, all valve body should be replaced. His rebuild valve bodies would obviously, fail to give consistent good results.
Within first 1 minutes, he states: "I still hold to new valve body" (meaning don't rebuild VB, replace it). At 5 min you'll see how he installs bolts (no torque wrench) with just pneumatic wrench. This shop has other videos. I saw one, on just valve body rebuild, another on whole A/T disassemble and another on full A/T rebuilds. One wherein, he finished VB bolts, with a hand ratchet wench snugging, torqueing by feel. Is it any wonder, he implies; don't rebuild VB, replace with new.

THIS!!!! Note: Threading bolts on by hand, minimum of three turns, avoids cross threading.

I remember my shop teacher telling me this back in 1982 during an engine rebuild class!
 
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