Whatever is good for you guys. I've never been so don't really know what to expect. I got 15th-18th off this month so I should be good to go.
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There are always cancellations. We will not be too large as to need a permit depending on how we arrange the group.Were are at 6, maybe 7. But if it turns out necessary I'll apply for the permit.
As far as camping goes there should be is more than enough room at all the camp spots for 7 rigs. Most of us will be on 2 meter so we do not need to run line of sight although that is always a good idea.
.I don't know if I will be down to truck it all night and try to find you guys at Hole in the wall camp around midnight Thursday night. So I think Ryan and I will leave Blythe first thing Friday morning and hit the trail starting off of the Needles Hwy around 10:30 Friday morning. I will monitor you guys on the HAM (I have two weekends to get some repeaters dialed in and learn how to use this thing) and if we catch up to you guys we will toast a.
. I was just searching for your screenname Mark so I could get your email address. I'm the one leading the four day run Scott mentioned. I'm from Eastlake down in the San Diego area as well. I was really hoping I could make this a four dayer. It makes for a much more relaxed trip and I wanted to see some sights I hadn't seen. This is a B-Day run for me as well. Mine is on the 17th. Let me look at some things and see what I can adjust. I won't run that far from home on my own so if everyone else wants a three day run then that's the smarter play. I guess another option is to run it from Afton Canyon Campground and head east. Then we can bail off when we dub it time to bail in order to get home in time Sunday evening, most of the real highlights are on the west end of the trip anyway. It also makes for a shorter drive on Thursday night/Wednesday morning. I would probably drive in Thursday night and camp at Afton Canyon Campground to be ready for an early departure on Friday. For those driving in that have to work late on Thursday I think that makes more sense. There is a $6.00 fee for camping at the Afton Campsite. I am applying for a permit this weekend so the number of rigs is not an issue. I would only ask that each rig bring a few dollars to donate to the permit fee.
If any of you want included in on this run planning please PM me your email address so I can add you to the emails going back and forth and send you the GPX and GDB files with the route.

Alright Ollie, let me look at things. The main reason I am not taking half a day on Thursday is because my Dad has an important hard to get appointment at the VA in LA at 1:00 on Thursday. So he will be out and on his way to Murrieta at 2:00. I am going to look at where that Avi casino is and I will let you guys know.
Ollie, I will PM you my e-mail and cell#.
Thanks
Olie, OK we will get to the AVI Thursday night and we can all start together.
Ryan, I am now planning to get to Murrieta before 5:00. I guess taking the 15 to Barstow and across the 40 only takes about 4.5 hours from Murrieta rather than the back roads I was looking at last week. So would you be ready to roll by 5:00-5:30?
I am going to make my reservations today for the Avi.

The Avi Casino is literally a few hundred yards away from the start of the Mojave road on the California side. The casino is reasonably priced and very convenient.
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The important part of leaving Friday is getting up early and getting the hell out ASAP. Top off tanks, buy fireworks or at least marvel at them (you'll see) Ollie is calling for a 10:30am or earlier departure in his email. IMO that is two hours too late. In my experience you call for an 8:30am and we'll be lucky to leave by 9:30am.Top off tanks, check oil, hoses, etc. check the rig, tighten down the junk on the roof, especially firewood. BTW everybody needs to bring as much as they can stuff on in/on their rig, there is nothing out there to burn. Gotta have extra fuel too, I know Ollie already mentioned it but it seems like every trip somebody shows up without extra cans. Whohoooooo, getting closer!![]()
Couple of questions, do the camp sites have a out house or do we need to plan on packing out our waste?
Oh and Ollie are you done revising the navi file yet?
Mark,
I know you just got a new Delorme program. I have a Delorme program too. I'm going to send out another email tonight or tomorrow. We had someone else drop back in and he needs the file(s) too. I'll attach a few types of files. GPD (Garmin Data Base), TPO (TOPO 4.0), GPX (GPD Exchange Format), and TPX (Delorme File).
Mid Hills Campground (Friday night's camp) does have facilities. They vault toilets as I recall. Saturday night's site is primitive. You can haul it out or bury it.