Missing Man in Jeep..

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Good questions Mark. Folks I've talked to say he violated basic rule #1 - Don't abandon your vehicle. It's easier spoted than you are and will provide basic shelter in a howling wind storm. We probably will never know. Thoughts, discussion on this survival moment?
 
Brentbba said:
Good questions Mark. Folks I've talked to say he violated basic rule #1 - Don't abandon your vehicle. It's easier spoted than you are and will provide basic shelter in a howling wind storm. We probably will never know. Thoughts, discussion on this survival moment?
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Don't go alone.
Don't leave the vehicle.
It's a shame he didn't have something like a Spot with him.
 
I feel bad for the guy and his family but he broke alot of rules. I think it is not smart to go solo like this into the middle of nowhere in winter. Not sure but I thought I read the jeep had no doors or top? if so, not smart in december. I agree that he should of stayed with the vehicle and made a home of it as best he could. I usually carry dried food, cook gear, a sleeping bag, extra water, multi tool and a flint, even on day trips just in case.

Groups are always better during any sort of travel, overseas, on foot, or vehicle.

Noah
 
F'in Jeep guys are dumb as post's, aren’t they?

OK, I feel bad for the guy and his family, but he did so many things wrong. 1st and foremost, you NEVER leave the vehicle. Which did they find first, umm THE VEHICLE.

I don't know, it's very tragic, but I kinda feel like this just proves Darwin right.
 
Very unfortunate what happened, a warning to others who travel to remote areas. This tragedy could have been avoided. I use the airplane crash analogy. It was a series of bad choices that ultimately resulted in a fatality.

1. No top, no doors in winter. (exposed to the elements)
2. Traveling alone to a remote area.
3. Not having proper gear to survive severe weather. (winch, tent, food, water, ability to start a fire, etc.)
4. Leaving vehicle to get help.
 
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Newps said:
Very unfortunate what happened, a warning to others who travel to remote areas. This tragedy could have been avoided. I use the airplane crash analogy. It was a series of bad choices that ultimately resulted in a fatality.

1. Not top, no doors in winter. (exposed to the elements)
2. Traveling alone to a remote area.
3. Not having proper gear to survive severe weather. (winch, tent, food, water, ability to start a fire, etc.)
4. Leaving vehicle to get help.
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Totally agree Tare. I carry so much recovery and survival gear in my rig there's hardly room for groceries. It only takes hearing about one episode like this to justify it all. :) I also own a hand held GPS but not a Spot, thinking about asking for one from Santa.

BTW any of you Ham's out there know if this guy could of reached a repeater from the vehicles location with a 5 watt HT?. Just curious if having a Ham could of saved his life. I feel really bad for his daughter, it's Christmas. :frown::frown:
 
Because I am a real crappy typist when I am on the laptop,I went ahead and copied this from a medical web site:

A person with hypothermia usually isn't aware of his or her condition, because the symptoms often begin gradually and because the confused thinking associated with hypothermia prevents self-awareness.

Even though this guy was probably doomed from the start and he was not prepared for conditions- this should be a reminder to all that this can happen to anyone- alone or in a group. Hypothermia can creep up on you before you know it.
 
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TemeculaTim said:
Because I am a real crappy typist when I am on the laptop,I went ahead and copied this from a medical web site:

A person with hypothermia usually isn't aware of his or her condition, because the symptoms often begin gradually and because the confused thinking associated with hypothermia prevents self-awareness.

Even though this guy was probably doomed from the start and he was not prepared for conditions- this should be a reminder to all that this can happen to anyone- alone or in a group. Hypothermia can creep up on you before you know it.
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That's what I was thinking about, true a lot of mistakes were made, especially if he didn't have doors, it would be tough to make the jeep a shelter. And with hypothermia setting in, it wouldn't surprise me if he could have walked 2.5 miles in that state of confusion before the end. Likely we'll never know.

Darn shame that. Feel bad for his family.

Dan.
 
Sad indeed. Prayers and thoughts to his family and friends.

As stated above, classic example of numerous small errors in judgement adding up to a fatal event. You build a solid vehicle, even a Jeep, and have the skills to drive it well and it is easy to let your confidence get the better of you. Yes he made mistakes but he didn't deserve to die for them. The best thing any of us wheelers who hear of this story can do is to learn from them and not reapeat a similar situation. That would at least keep his death from being a total waste.

The lack of shelter with an open top/door Jeep is one of the reasons I drive an 80. Instant shelter with reasonable room inside but not too big on the outside. I never have to think about that aspect of taking my vehicle into the wilds.
 
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