Local Diesel Prices

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Hansens rail fuel surchase on the last bill:

27% !!!!!

SUM B&*^** i am seriously thinking of getting out of importing,
shipping is projected 20% - 80% PER MONTH fuel surcharge,
Rail 27%,
trucking $15%....

27% rise in the cost of a vehicle in one month!!!

yep, 83BJ60, it is already affecting us self-employed...
 
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83bj60 said:
they invariably all come from narrowminded city dwellers nicely stowed in an asepticized appartment, taking a highly fuel tax payer subsidized metro directly from their building lobby to their workplace
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Fixed it for you. Not that it makes me feel any better.

These fuel prices are especially screwing those of us who have to use our own vehicles to drivefor work. Travel expense km payment increases for me are tied to the CPI and it has only increased by 1.7% in 12 months while diesel has increased by nearly 100%. :mad: Think I will be sending my boss a fuel surchage notice.

I also need to look at other ways to increase my fuel economy. Maybe the next set of tires should be cookie cutter highway radials instead of ATs and I should have a set of used ATs/MTs just for wheeling? Injectors and Fuel Pump only have just over 30,000 kms. All filters are done regularly. Tire pressure is checked before each trip. Junk I don't need is taken out. Not sure what else I can do?
 
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I'm seriously considering getting a still going for bio-diesel down here in Guatemala. Unfortunately my tank isn't big enough to get me all the way home to Canada. I'll be taking full gerry cans of Mexican diesel up with me though at $2/gallon as of Easter weekend. Does anyone know if there is folks producing bio-diesel that will sell it to some of the rest of us poor sods? Maybe a website or something?

As an aside, for the first time diesel is more than regular gas here in Central America as well. Up until about 3-4 months ago it was 10-15% less ALL THE TIME, then it began to climb faster than gasoline, finally passing gasoline in the last month or so. I'm now convinced that big oil is putting the squeeze on diesel owners as it is FACT that diesel is cheaper to produce.
 
Diesel prices in El Salvador

$4.59 US a gallon here in El Salvador.:bang:
 
canucksafari said:
Fixed it for you. Not that it makes me feel any better.

These fuel prices are especially screwing those of us who have to use our own vehicles to drivefor work. Travel expense km payment increases for me are tied to the CPI and it has only increased by 1.7% in 12 months while diesel has increased by nearly 100%. :mad: Think I will be sending my boss a fuel surchage notice.

I also need to look at other ways to increase my fuel economy. Maybe the next set of tires should be cookie cutter highway radials instead of ATs and I should have a set of used ATs/MTs just for wheeling? Injectors and Fuel Pump only have just over 30,000 kms. All filters are done regularly. Tire pressure is checked before each trip. Junk I don't need is taken out. Not sure what else I can do?
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Thanks, buddy! I'm looking at getting highway only summer tires as well, and considering 18 inch and above rims (sacrilege!) so that I may install lighter and lower profile tires as well.

I'm going to be replacing all fluids with synthetic soon, starting with the transmission, transfer case and diff oils. I have long removed my air-dam-bull bar and will be installing my electric engine prewarmer this summer to further reduce cold temperature fuel waste. I'm also told that using AC is actually less wasteful that having windows open on the highway so I'll be using that, if we ever get a summer this year :mad:

I really don't see how I can do any more savings besides fueling with WVO and careful trip planning (which I always do as a matter of fact anyway).
 
Chris, it sounds like all those mods could pay for a mid 90's beater honda civic or tercel that would save you tons in gas, and that you might be able to use rather than put km on your cruisers. It might be worth working the numbers out - and it may make even more sense given that it looks like gas / diesel is just going to keep going up in price. For instance, a 1992-5 Civic VX will get about 50mpg and possibly even more, if you can find one.
 
Yep, I am thinking the same... Looking for a beater econobox for doing errands may be a wise idea, and keep the Cruiser for work!
 
It's actually become more expensive to go to work than to eat and be keep the house warm and lit!!!
 
Martin White said:
Chris, it sounds like all those mods could pay for a mid 90's beater honda civic or tercel that would save you tons in gas, and that you might be able to use rather than put km on your cruisers.
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Avoid the beater Tercel. Yes, it gets better fuel economy than the Safari but not by much - considering its relative weight and engine size. Our 92 Tercel only does about 30-36 m/gal while the Safari does 25-32 m/gal. Apparently, the newer ones do better.
 
you could consider the 91-93 Mazda B2200 (last of the true Mazda trucks). Dad is averaging 39 (thirty-nine) mpg ever since i gave him the truck in 98, the best i ever got was 29 but he seldom goes over 1800 rpm and i never would have beleived unless i saw it personally.

you could also consider a K vehicle from Japan, if you keep the rpms down they can return great milage but if you drive them the way we drive as a rule they only return roughly 35 mpg.

the civic is usually very good on fuel.

you have to also consider the cost of maintainence on the vehicles. the land cruiser will use 9L of oil and a 35$ filter, a hinda will use 4 L of oil and a 5$ filter, tires are cheaper as are the brakes and assoc wear parts...
insurance might be cheaper as well, but that depends on your broker...

you could also consider a street bike as a DD in the nicer weather.

last night i filled up the gasser for $118/L and the diesel was $138/L in ontario.

(i am not looking forward to the house oil bill this time around...)
 
Diesel42 said:
Does anybody know what there paying in China and/or Russia for fuel? Never see any members from those areas post here.
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For China, send a PM with this link to Mongolman. He is pretty good about logging in but with time diff etc... He runs a BJ 40 up in Mongolia.
 
crushers said:
(i am not looking forward to the house oil bill this time around...)
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Seriously, Wayne, look at the prices for electricity and consider switching. I pay about 7c per kwh (haven't really looked at the exact figures lately, though) and when it cost me 5c and the oil 65 c, I SAVED $600 the first winter I switched. And that was with a 4 year, fairly effeicient furnace! That was about 10 years ago, and heating oil has doubled since while electricty increased by 40%. BIG difference!

The problem with oil heating is no more than 80% or so of the heat produced is reclaimed. Even on models with mural evacuators. One of the ideas I was toying with at the time was to convert the frurnace to a diesel geneator running on WVO and generating both heat and electricity.

If thermoscan cameras weren't so expensive, I'd have gotten one a long time ago and add it to my services. It's going to be in big demand, I'm sure. But as long as the utility does it for free, not many of us are going to offer these services!
 
actually, i am looking into GeoTherm since the government is giving $8500 in rebates and i can sell the 2 year old furnace and tank. the latest quite i got was $28,000 so $20K for heat AND AC. it is elec backup for the real cold winter days.

this place is surprisingly cheap to heat as it is ($1500 for the winter compared to some of the farms at $5000) so i felt i would hold off for a year but now i am thinking come fall...

Elec scares me with the new Bruce power plants being built i think the hydro will go up to pay for the construction...

thanks for the discussion though... i appreciate different ideas...
 
Wayne, geothermal is great on paper but installing and repairing it is so expensive I won't consider it. I've read studies that say it takes 10 years to break even. Knowing that many systems require really expensive repairs around that time, I'm not convinced these systems are ready for prime time yet.

OTOH, if you get a susbtantial grant it's definitely something to consider, and it may well be cost effective then.

I live in a 100 year old house that I got after my divorce. It's a heat sink for sure, close to $3,000 a year (the same size house new would probably cost about $2,000, and a condo of the same area, probably $1,200), but I figure it cost me very little to acquire and my kids have two homes to go to. Kind of handy when they can't stand Mommy anymore ;)
 
Today, $5.29 Downtown
 
life time warranty on the in ground components including any and all labour.
25 years on the in house/shop parts and labour...

10 years at last years prices of fuel, 2 years on next years fuel price to break even...


83bj60 said:
Wayne, geothermal is great on paper but installing and repairing it is so expensive I won't consider it. I've read studies that say it takes 10 years to break even. Knowing that many systems require really expensive repairs around that time, I'm not convinced these systems are ready for prime time yet.

OTOH, if you get a susbtantial grant it's definitely something to consider, and it may well be cost effective then.

I live in a 100 year old house that I got after my divorce. It's a heat sink for sure, close to $3,000 a year (the same size house new would probably cost about $2,000, and a condo of the same area, probably $1,200), but I figure it cost me very little to acquire and my kids have two homes to go to. Kind of handy when they can't stand Mommy anymore ;)
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