Agreed. This would be very convincing info. May be able to just use an IR gun to get comparison numbers on the IN and OUT sides. IC looks really good! John
Intercooler kit for SC- gauging interest
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Certainly I can try with my IR, but my intention was not to develop a product for testing. Intercoolers work, to what efficiency this one will work was irrelevant to me as it will be the one on my 80 and the only one available that can be installed without cutting up parts that are unobtanium. Sorry.
Once installed, I will be happy to share any data that I can get either through my ultragauge or with external sensors, but as a family man on a limited budget, I didn't nor would I have additional ports installed to measure temperatures to convince others of the effectiveness of this IC. This whole project is outside the realm of my Cruiser budget for the year, but I guilted my wife into it as I got her some nice Christmas presents, and I got some new socks and underwear.
That's not entirely true. I went ahead with it and asked for forgiveness after the fact (the part about the socks and underwear was true though)...
The computer running the CNC machine died, therefore I won't have the flange until next week at the earliest.
However, here are a couple pictures of the intercooler in place and mounted to the SC. Since my Moab trip got cancelled for this weekend, I might go ahead and cut the hood and install the scoop.
Once installed, I will be happy to share any data that I can get either through my ultragauge or with external sensors, but as a family man on a limited budget, I didn't nor would I have additional ports installed to measure temperatures to convince others of the effectiveness of this IC. This whole project is outside the realm of my Cruiser budget for the year, but I guilted my wife into it as I got her some nice Christmas presents, and I got some new socks and underwear.
That's not entirely true. I went ahead with it and asked for forgiveness after the fact (the part about the socks and underwear was true though)...The computer running the CNC machine died, therefore I won't have the flange until next week at the earliest.
However, here are a couple pictures of the intercooler in place and mounted to the SC. Since my Moab trip got cancelled for this weekend, I might go ahead and cut the hood and install the scoop.
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Part of the intercooler design involved an air dam on the inlet side. This is to help ensure that the entire core is utilized with fairly uniform air flow. I hope these pictures help to visualize the design element.
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Wow. Looks great!
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I just went ahead and ordered the 2.8" supercharger pulley from Pulley Boys as well...
That looks really good! How much room is under the IC core between it and the VC?
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At the point with the least clearance it's ~1" or less. It's hard to say without the intercooler properly attached to the intake. I had the cardboard mock up cut out underneath it so as to avoid damaging any fins. As you can see it also sits off center to the exhaust manifold side, which should help move some air over that area and relieve some under hood temps.
I am really impressed by the quality of the work and the core. I can not see through the 3.5" core at all. However, when I blow lightly on it, I can feel the air on the other side with my hand as if there were nothing in between.
I am really impressed by the quality of the work and the core. I can not see through the 3.5" core at all. However, when I blow lightly on it, I can feel the air on the other side with my hand as if there were nothing in between.
Certainly I can try with my IR, but my intention was not to develop a product for testing. Intercoolers work, to what efficiency this one will work was irrelevant to me as it will be the one on my 80 and the only one available that can be installed without cutting up parts that are unobtanium. Sorry.
Once installed, I will be happy to share any data that I can get either through my ultragauge or with external sensors, but as a family man on a limited budget, I didn't nor would I have additional ports installed to measure temperatures to convince others of the effectiveness of this IC. This whole project is outside the realm of my Cruiser budget for the year, but I guilted my wife into it as I got her some nice Christmas presents, and I got some new socks and underwear.
The computer running the CNC machine died, therefore I won't have the flange until next week at the earliest.
However, here are a couple pictures of the intercooler in place and mounted to the SC. Since my Moab trip got cancelled for this weekend, I might go ahead and cut the hood and install the scoop.
There's nothing to apologize for, it does look really good and I don't think it would be impossible to fit an exchanger any larger in that spot. I'm not sure how you would us an IR gun though, you'd have to be stopped to use it, obviously you'd have no air flow through the cooler if you are doing this.
I'm sure that you would be able to sell more of them if you could determine that the cooler does work well enough to justify cutting up the hood, purchasing the cooler and installing it. That said, Blarsen seems to be satisfied with his and it is essentially a similar design, at least as far as placement and design is concerned and I think he has gathered some "data".
I'm considering this kit more seriously, I'm just not sure of the scoop end of it either, where to place it, one that has the opening closer to the front of the hood or to use a WRX scoop like others have done.
I'm not convinced that the "yarn" data that some have collected is that accurate since it only gives you a visual indication of how the boundary layer of air closest to the surface of the body of the vehicle behaves. An effective scoop would have to reach above this to work well, maybe a WRX STi scoop?
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That's what I've got (STi) sitting in my shop painted to match my Cruiser. Hopefully, you will be seeing pictures of that sonnets as well!
Kudos to you Nick for doing this and documenting/sharing with us! I am definitely interested and am hoping for positive results once you have this complete. And, Pulley Boys is less than an hour away from me; if we get enough interest, maybe we can approach for a group buy.
Cheers,
Salue
Cheers,
Salue
I didn't know they were in the PNW - I'd be in on an undersized pulley group buy to go with an after-cooler.
I believe they're either in Lakewood or Puyallup.
Salue
Salue
). I'll check them out. Thanks for all the work you've done on this, looks great !!
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The pulley arrived today. I think I'll go ahead and install as ambient temps are quite cold here and I hardly drive the Cruiser and won't be doing any distance prior to the completion of the IC project.
The new computer for the CNC machine should arrive tomorrow and the flange will be completed hopefully over the weekend. I'm hoping to get the hood cut this weekend to the size of the IC core.
Nick
The new computer for the CNC machine should arrive tomorrow and the flange will be completed hopefully over the weekend. I'm hoping to get the hood cut this weekend to the size of the IC core.
Nick
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I went ahead and installed the pulley. All that's needed is an 18mm wrench and a strap wrench. I pulled off the belt, put the strap wrench over the OEM pulley, and loosened the bolt. The pulley slid off by hand, I put the new one in place, tightened, and replaced the belt. Super quick and easy.
Here are the two pulleys side by side.
I drove into town and back this evening. The difference wasn't huge, but noticeable. I felt it most in the 2000-2600 RPM range.
Nick
Here are the two pulleys side by side.
I drove into town and back this evening. The difference wasn't huge, but noticeable. I felt it most in the 2000-2600 RPM range.
Nick
So, is that the 2.8" pulley? Any pinging, or all GTG with the cold temps?
Steve
Steve
I envisioned you sitting around waiting for the flange to arrive but sounds like you went back to original configuration to test the new pulley.
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So, is that the 2.8" pulley? Any pinging, or all GTG with the cold temps?
Steve
Yep, the 2.8". No issues, but the load is limited, no towing, and only a small divide (no passes).
Yep. I had to put it back together to go ice fishing last weekend, and with the install so easy, upon arrival, I couldn't wait until next week...