BingoFantastic. But these fine amazing goals are still “ambitions” at this time. I am sure Yugo ambitions at one time were impressive on its day too.
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BingoFantastic. But these fine amazing goals are still “ambitions” at this time. I am sure Yugo ambitions at one time were impressive on its day too.
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Good in what context? I agree it’s a great engine, but something that works well in a typical BMW doesn’t necessarily mean it will be good off-road.Lol, agreed the design was ripped off but that BMW engine is good!!! Thats their best modern engine in a loooong while.
Good in what context? I agree it’s a great engine, but something that works well in a typical BMW doesn’t necessarily mean it will be good off-road.
Fantastic. BUT it still has be put together and everything has to work together nicely. ZF tranny is not beyond fault. ZF 9-speed for example is bad...oh and that is used in Jeeps too.When is BMW power plants ever proven?!
Jeep Wrangler has fully boxed ladder frame too and dual axles and 4:1 TC and FOX shocks etc. Etc. Yet, it has disappointed you in past, right?
My point is…this is a new manufacturer and will likely have significant growing pains whether it be in design, suppliers, assembly issues, production issues, dealerships, servicing, etc..
How can you put so much faith into a literal unknown? Just because it has pretty shiny parts?
Does the LC need Brembo brakes or ZF tranny or “proven” BMW power plants to be a legendary vehicle?
Charlie…i get your enthusiasm. Great. Hope it goes well for you. But just stating that i am not on bandwagon, esp so darn early in an OEM history!
they have two tire offerings that were discussed. Bridgestone for the more street oriented trim and BFG KO2s for the trail version.@DesmoPilot
Looking at those pics on my desktop now, did they go Bridgestone for all their fitments? Interesting...
BFG KO2s for the trail version.
Good in what context? I agree it’s a great engine, but something that works well in a typical BMW doesn’t necessarily mean it will be good off-road.
I'm in that boat. Have Four Vehicles, and the best days are carless, where I bike or walk everywhere I can. The good news is the less I drive, the longer my vehicles can last, given they don't sit for TOO long.At times I do wonder whether going more careless through life would make me happier. The problem is I cannot switch of my brain...
At times I do wonder whether going more careless through life would make me happier.
It will, and I’m an expert on the subject
Let me know how I can help
Help me...
The answer on the later is easyI'm in that boat. Have Four Vehicles, and the best days are carless, where I bike or walk everywhere I can. The good news is the less I drive, the longer my vehicles can last, given they don't sit for TOO long.
As per the Grenadier, I think it fits a void in the market that the LC used to fill. It remains to be seen if it is any good, but the idea is compelling, and if they are great and prove reliable, in 10-15 years I'll probably be torn between a used Grenadier or a used 2020/21 Heritage series, assuming those eventually depreciate into my budget.
Good man, enjoy!It will, and I’m an expert on the subject
Let me know how I can help
I would say German design and manufacture/assembly wise (parts come from various European countries, some not so great) a BMW inline 6 and a ZF (Zhanrad Fabrieken) 8sp is pretty good. Still designed for more performance than all or most Toyota products, so on average will fall short of longevity and a trouble free ownership experience, amongst which are annoying oil leaks from seals and gaskets. Agree therefore offroad at low speed, high load and temps reliability maybe a challenge. LC200 has proven itself there in the Middle East in the dunes and in the Australian Outback (be it the diesel sister).You cant blame them for going ZF, literally every brand dropped their internal developments and went to the 8spd a decade ago. Who else is left that isn't niche or commercial?
You seem to get stuck, on and wound up over minutia.
Go enjoy your truck…
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The B58 in the Grenadier has been detuned for a smoother power band and longevity. Its is one of BMWs most reliable engines. I agree with you on Toyota all around, I am a big Toyota fan and always have been.I would say German design and manufacture/assembly wise (parts come from various European countries, some not so great) a BMW inline 6 and a ZF (Zhanrad Fabrieken) 8sp is pretty good. Still designed for more performance than all or most Toyota products, so on average will fall short of longevity and a trouble free ownership experience, amongst which are annoying oil leaks from seals and gaskets. Agree therefore offroad at low speed, high load and temps reliability maybe a challenge. LC200 has proven itself there in the Middle East in the dunes and in the Australian Outback (be it the diesel sister).
Bottomline the all-round, all capable and reliable LC200 is unbeatable. There is nothing better, short of many lighter and therefore more fuel economic vehicles.
You should be a therapist, you are really really talented!