Ineos Grenadier

[bloc]

It won't sound exactly like a pushrod LS, but I often think to uncork the 5.7 to let her sing. Then I think about towing and put thought away really quick.

Exactly. I hate drone on the freeway. I got very lucky with the exhaust on that 80, it certainly wasn’t skill, but I’m even reluctant to remove the resonator on this rig.

 

[2014 LEX 570 GA]

Since we have a thread on the Rivian, thought I would start some discussion on the Ineos Grenadier. I had the opportunity to attend a test drive event on Tuesday.

The vehicles that Ineos has in the US are prototypes, so not road legal yet. The events they are doing are off-road only. Road legal prototypes are supposed to arrive in July. US pricing will be released in May.

First impressions in no particular order:
Exterior fit and finish looked great. Doors fit and closed perfectly.
Visibility from driver's seat is fantastic.
Large wheel wells should easily accommodate 34's, maybe even 35's. (I think 285/75-17s would be perfect)
The Recaro seats are dreamy!!!!!!
A swaybar disconnect would be a great addition. Hopefully the aftermarket introduces something.
Factory auxiliary battery setup under the rear passenger seat is nice.

Cons:
The steering stabilizer is in a precarious position. It sits low and in front of the axle. I could see this getting bashed on rocks. Wouldn't surprise me to see someone make a bolt on skid for it.
Lack of driver A-pillar and rear seat B-pillar grab handles is annoying to me. In talking with the Technical Director, evidently the first prototypes had handles. Hopefully they bring them back for final production. I overheard others expressing this concern as well.

Driving Impressions:
The throttle mapping was very smooth and easy to modulate offroad.
Transmission shifted smoothly and was in the proper gear at the right time.
There wasn't a single creak, groan, rattle, etc while driving over rocky terrain. I was truly impressed at how solid the vehicle felt.
Stock suspension and shock tuning was very comfortable. Only thing that I felt was missing was the ability to disconnect swaybar(s).
Did I mention that the Recaros are so comfortable!!!
Steering ratio is a little tall for my personal preference. A half turn reduction in overall ratio would be optimal for my taste.

Final Thoughts:
I was genuinely impressed and really enjoyed driving it. Enough for me to swap from the the 200, no. I love my 200! However, I think if I had anything other than the 200, I would definitely buy one. This will be an easy vehicle to kit out for overland travel. Put a larger tire on it, front & rear bumpers with a winch, add some skid plates and call it a day.

Has anyone else driven one? Or signed up to attend a test drive event? Thoughts/impressions?View attachment 3286366View attachment 3286361View attachment 3286362View attachment 3286363

Where did you do this and how did you sign up? I have been to these types of events for other manufacturers. Would love to get behind wheel of a Grenadier.

 

[40Man]

Where did you do this and how did you sign up? I have been to these types of events for other manufacturers. Would love to get behind wheel of a Grenadier.

sign up for their emails. I get notifications based on putting down a deposit. They will have a drive setup near me next month.

 

[CharlieS]

They sent an email this week with a bunch of different dates and locations across the US where you can sign up for one of three different length test drives. As mentioned above, all you need to do is sign up for their mailing list (no deposit required). I can forward the email if you PM me your email address.

 

[AnyMal]

It won't sound exactly like a pushrod LS, but I often think to uncork the 5.7 to let her sing. Then I think about towing and put thought away really quick.

After watching some of the guys who posted exhaust videos, this is coming soon. I finally have the NA feel with the pedal commander in, boy did I miss instant response… Sport+ is actually unusably twitchy and so odd to feel the 200 respond like that lol.
Now im just wondering where the noise is? If you have ever heard a cat-less or otherwise straight piped Tundra, it is absolutely there in spades and does sound quite good.

I can appreciate turbos in a lot of things but big trucks should sound like big trucks to me. Call me crazy. My mangler of a shrink is online.

 

[AnyMal]

Exactly. I hate drone on the freeway. I got very lucky with the exhaust on that 80, it certainly wasn’t skill, but I’m even reluctant to remove the resonator on this rig.

The TRD Tundra exhaust supposedly does not drone. It also doesnt really sound all that throaty.
Unfortunately im still looking for a good system for the 200. And ive wanted to do Thorley headers for years now too.

I think the way to go is custom unfortunately (cost), but a switched baffle is a must. Tired of spending money though…

 

[Boston Mangler]

The TRD Tundra exhaust supposedly does not drone.

Absolutely 100% False

Mine came with it and it was horrendous.

Found a local guy to swap from the TRD Exhaust to stock plus give me $250.

We did it in his driveway in a couple of hours

 

[AnyMal]

Absolutely 100% False

Mine came with it and it was horrendous.

Found a local guy to swap from the TRD Exhaust to stock plus give me $250.

We did it in his driveway in a couple of hours

Damn, well -1 for house Toyota I guess. That is strange it is reportedly the most tame Tundra option out there too…
No surprise though, most of what I heard or read is from owners who probably embellish everything.

 

[Madtiger]

Absolutely 100% False

Mine came with it and it was horrendous.

Found a local guy to swap from the TRD Exhaust to stock plus give me $250.

We did it in his driveway in a couple of hours

Doesn't Toyota pipe in fake V8 engine sound for the Tundra??

 

[Boston Mangler]

Doesn't Toyota pipe in fake V8 engine sound for the Tundra??

If they do, they failed miserably? and the droning of the TRD Dual exhaust is some of the worst ever

 

[Madtiger]

If they do, they failed miserably? and the droning of the TRD Dual exhaust is some of the worst ever

They do!! "...they use recorded sound from a 2021 TRD Pro for the pumped in noise, hence the deeper tone."

Piped in, fake engine sound

I have read some comments on various Youtube videos that claim the dealership can "turn off" the fake engine sound piped through the speakers. Can this...

www.tundras.com

 

[40Man]

 

[Flight2k5]

They do!! "...they use recorded sound from a 2021 TRD Pro for the pumped in noise, hence the deeper tone."

Piped in, fake engine sound

I have read some comments on various Youtube videos that claim the dealership can "turn off" the fake engine sound piped through the speakers. Can this...

www.tundras.com

so does ford

 

[40Man]

P2

 

[40Man]

P3

 

[HustleHard]

It is weird to me too though, why they didnt choose a diesel? Not that im knowledgeable on the intricacies, but I know that is kind of ideal. Maybe emissions systems issues…

According to their engineers at one of their show events, they didn't do diesel because across countries, diesel isn't consistent. Same reason they didn't do electric, they want to make sure the vehicle can drive in places with minimal infrastructure

 

[CharlieS]

In other countries they have both a gas and diesel option. The us will only get the gas engine. At least from what I read. Unfortunately.

BMW ENGINES​

Both the BMW B57 diesel and B58 petrol powertrains have a proven track record. Regularly appearing in top 10 world’s best engine lists since 2016 and used in everything from sports cars to SUVs. Add our 1.8 million kilometres of tough testing to fine tune them for the Grenadier’s specific needs, and you can be sure of a rock solid, reliable and durable engine designed to do the job.​

I blame VW for the nail in the coffin on consumer diesel automobiles in the US. My wife is still irate about the "environmentally friendly" diesel golf we had that they cheated on to for emissions and got caught. She refuses to buy VW anymore.

 

[Madtiger]

Once upon a time, Ram Ecodiesel was on Ward’s best engine list for a few years……..but ask actual owners, that engine is a sh!t show! Probably one of the worst engine ever made.

 

[Boston Mangler]

Once upon a time, Ram Ecodiesel was on Ward’s best engine list for a few years……..but ask actual owners, that engine is a sh!t show! Probably one of the worst engine ever made.

Facts

 

[AnyMal]

In other countries they have both a gas and diesel option. The us will only get the gas engine. At least from what I read. Unfortunately.

BMW ENGINES​

Both the BMW B57 diesel and B58 petrol powertrains have a proven track record. Regularly appearing in top 10 world’s best engine lists since 2016 and used in everything from sports cars to SUVs. Add our 1.8 million kilometres of tough testing to fine tune them for the Grenadier’s specific needs, and you can be sure of a rock solid, reliable and durable engine designed to do the job.​

I blame VW for the nail in the coffin on consumer diesel automobiles in the US. My wife is still irate about the "environmentally friendly" diesel golf we had that they cheated on to for emissions and got caught. She refuses to buy VW anymore.

Not sure what is true or not, but from what I’ve gathered the ever more stringent emissions equipment is to blame for modern diesel issues. We used to have diesel’s ironed out pretty good it seems. Now they are unreliable again?