Thats my old 4runner in the back of the 3rd pic
1st gen Mini truck you mean?
I am building an 80 for pretty good sized rocks. I will drive it to the trail though. 37's or 40's. I will stick with Toyota axles although making some upgrades here and there. It has lost a lot of body though since it is being cut into a pickup.
As I understand it the older TJs and XJs with the 4.0 are really solid. The Dana 30s aren’t amazing but the XJs have AISIN transmissions which are fairly stout. It seems like the JKs took a big step down in quality.Random Jeep bashing:
A friend has a JK. I tried to help him recently with a breakdown where the vehicle went into limp mode.
At first, it appeared (from OBD2) that it was the crank position sensor. We verified 5V to the sensor and replaced it. No change. Another OBD2 error was the EGR valve, but no biggie so we didn't worry about it. It gets towed to the Jeep dealership where it sits for over a week because they don't have enough techs.
After a thousand dollars to replace some harness running to the transmission, he gets it back. A week later he's stranded again. It gets towed back to the dealership, where it sits for over two weeks before anyone can even look at it.
This time they replaced the EGR sensor. Turns out that was the problem all along. With CANBUS, all the sensors we were dealing with are on one 5V loop. One piece goes bad and you lose everything. In this case, the EGR sensor had an intermittent fault that was randomly disabling the entire vehicle.
So, this is really more of a rant about modern vehicles. I'll happily take my '94 Land Cruiser to remote places. It's mechanically sound (unlike Jeep transmissions and transfer cases) and if something electronic goes bad it won't take the entire rest of the system with it.
Incidentally, while trying to research the problems he was having, I discovered that the later (3.6?) engines have problems with their cam position sensors. Why? Because a couple of bolts often back out over time, causing oil to leak past them, interfering with the function of the sensors. A dumb design that would have been fixed with some loc-tite at the factory.
I was working on my Jeep the last couple of days. I opted to do the work myself in the shop under the supervision of the guys there, to learn more about the engine and how to access things in this very very tight space! I am glad I did although it was a PIA for how tight it is around this...www.wranglerforum.com
I'll never understand why Toyota didn't release an up-sized, modern 40 series in the last decade. It would have sold like mad in the US market.
Anyway, if I wanted a disposable, reasonably capable all-purpose vehicle with a ton of bolt-on aftermarket support, a Wrangler would be it. But I'd sell it by 70k miles.
You have 32 spline axles going to your birfields?This is one of the dumbest arguments I have heard in 10 years of being on mud....
Rubicons are not rock crawlers, neither are 80's.. or 40's, 55's, 60', cj3's, cj5's, wagoneer's etc. If you want to build one or the other into an actual crawler, you will end up with the same axles, suspension and transfer case under either (if you are smart about it).
You can put a ton of money into toyota or rubicon axles and make them decent, but they still aren't 1 tons. I know, I have a diamond front with a 9.5 center, hellfire knuckles, rcv's, 32 spline shafts and arp hardware. Its the best you can do staying all toyota, but its no dana 60. Neither is a dana 44.
Yep, 200 series 3rds with ARB RD152's front and rear. The ring gear is about 2x thicker and the pinion is 32 spline vs the earlier 27 spline. Much stronger than the 80 series and older 9.5's.You have 32 spline axles going to your birfields?
Who made the axlehafts?Yep, 200 series 3rds with ARB RD152's front and rear. The ring gear is about 2x thicker and the pinion is 32 spline vs the earlier 27 spline. Much stronger than the 80 series and older 9.5's.
The shafts neck down to 30 spline at the birf, but being 32 spline at the diff and a 34.8mm (vs 33mm for 30 spline) shaft they wont twist splines at the diff as easy. Done that before too...
In one of Matt’s Off-Road recovery vids I watched recently he said to the viewers all you need is an XJ on 31s and you can do 90% of the trails there. Also been binge watching 4WD/24/7 and am very impressed. Doubt very much any type of Jeep (stk or modded) would survive any of their trips in one piece.As I understand it the older TJs and XJs with the 4.0 are really solid. The Dana 30s aren’t amazing but the XJs have AISIN transmissions which are fairly stout. It seems like the JKs took a big step down in quality.
Well I don’t know how a Jeep would do. But people love to talk about how crappy early Land Rover Discoveries are, when they seemed to do pretty well in the Camel Trophy.In one of Matt’s Off-Road recovery vids I watched recently he said to the viewers all you need is an XJ on 31s and you can do 90% of the trails there. Also been binge watching 4WD/24/7 and am very impressed. Doubt very much any type of Jeep (stk or modded) would survive any of their trips in one piece.
I tend to doubt an 80 series broke a ball jointMy Jeep group just finished Barrett Lake, Rubicon and Sierra Trek this year, 9 jeeps with only 1 minor trail repair, while my other Yota group with 7 80 series doing just the Rubicon this past weekend and had 12 breakdowns total. Broken track bar, smashed gas tank/fuel delivery issues, punctured brakelines, broken front axles, ball joints, snapped rear axle flange bolts, and bent rear drive shaft.....and i guaranteed you the Jeeps guy are taking way harder lines granted most of them on 40s and 37s w/ V8 swaps
all you need is an XJ on 31s and you can do 90% of the trails there
I do like those little guys. Local friend has two he built. The white one was a recent pickup that had been used at an off-grid island cabin. Toyota axles!I don't care what anybody says or thinks. Samurais are the real trail heroes!