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canadam said:
Crushers, absolutely no warranty was inferred in the sale of the truck. As with any
private sale of a vehicle, it should never be expected.
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"I created a website to put information about my truck on... but I'm a 'curber' not a company ."

This, Adam, was a statement made by you. If you are a "curber' does this put the sale in a different light?

If you can't back your sales you may want to let the guys like Wayne do the business.

If you call yourself a "curber" have you obtained a B.C. license?
 
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hi guys.......wow 3000 i thought maby one oh well.......all i can say for sure even though i was not there, i am sure you could not have had a more gentile driver in that rig if it was the little old lady from pasadiena her self ........and as for this situation ..............i know what i would do and that is what i live with .......i guesse we all have our owne level of integrity and hey i guesse in the end it is what it is and such is life and so on and so on and so on .and once again i would like to say thank you to all for your imput and mabey i will have some good news and it will only cost me 2900 in the end most would agree that it is well worth fixing?
 
canadam said:
The buyer's relatives deliberating on whether or
not I am a "rat bastard" or not, . . .
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Check the post, they're not my words. Can you see the quotation marks attributing the comment to someone else?
 
What the hell???

Hawke, you're way out of line. If Adam sold the truck in good condition according to his best knowledge, then he didn't rip anyone off. If it's a private sale, how in the hell do you expect a refund, especially when there's a bill of sale that specifically states that the vehicle was sold "as is"? What you are doing, by demanding a partial refund to cover the cost of the repairs, is calling Adam a liar because you imply that he knew of this problem before he sold the vehicle and is therefore responsible for the repairs.

Would you expect this kind of refund if you bought another used vehicle privately from your local buy & sell? Not if you're in your right mind...buying a used vehicle has inherent risks, and as long as the seller has honestly and reasonably disclosed all the pertinent information that you asked during the sale, the seller has no other reposibility after you take possession of the vehicle. Am I wrong in my thinking?

I understand the way you feel, having a relative buy a vehicle that has turned into a liability so soon. But chill out and please don't turn this tech forum into a soap opera. If you really cared about your loved ones, you would have advised them to buy a Cruiser with a real engine under the hood...:flipoff2: (Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D)
 
Canadam, looks like you are a curber. We all know that you made agood profit on that truck at 13,500 sale price. It is obvious that you were curbing it no matter how long you had it - your "Canadam Automobile Sales" website proves it. It is hard to believe that you didn't know there was a problem with the prado, just the fact that you are a curber busts down all your credibility.

Jack, I suggest that if Adam doesn't help you out with the cost of the repair then you report him to the BC motor vehicle council, if they don't act fast enough then file a small claims in court and give the judge a print out of his webpage - I'm sure the judge wuold make quick work of it.

http://www.mdcbc.com/

The council is staring to hand out fines and are going after the importer curbers these days.

If you want to sell cars and make money - just get your dealer license and be honest/egitimate dealer like the rest of us. My conscience wouldn't let me sleep knowing I sold someone a truck with a crap engine.

Here is canadams website - i found it on google cache.


Canadam Automobile Sales1990 Toyota LandCruiser Prado EX5 - $15997. This Toyota Landcruiser offers ... To contact Canadam Enterprises with inquiries please click here: Contact.
www.canadam.net/ - 3k - Cached - Similar pages



1990 Toyota LandCruiser Prado EX5 - $15,997



This Toyota Landcruiser offers something for everyone. It's rugged construction and 4WD make it perfect for the off-roading and outdoor enthusiast. A perfect city truck as well ! Eight passenger seating and an economical, and powerful turbo diesel engine with reports of up to 38 mpg. Smaller dimensions than domestic LandCruisers of the same vintage increase offroad ability and ease of parking. A genuine Toyota bushbar with driving lamps increase the safety of this high riding vehicle.

2.4L Turbo Diesel 4 Cylinder
Under 78,000kms
Four Wheel Drive 5 Speed Transmission with Transfer Case, Electronically Engaging Hubs, Push Button 4WD
16" Alloy Wheels with Full Size Spare
8 Passenger Seating, Sport interior with removable and/or fold-up 3rd row, Off Road Front Seat setting on Bucket Seats with Electronic Lumbar Support
Air Conditioning, Rear Heater, Power Windows, Power Locks, Power Sunroof, Driver Information Centre (Altimeter, Thermometer, Etc.), Alarm Clock, AM/FM Stereo with Original Toyota CD Player, Tilt Steering, Rear Defroster with Wiper, Headlight Washers
Electronic Controlled Suspension, Vent Visors, Fog Lamps mounted to Toyota Bush Bar, Running Boards, 4 wheel disc brakes, rear barn doors, power mirrors
Brand New Bridgestone Dueler P245/70R16 Tires
To contact Canadam Enterprises with inquiries please click here: Contact
 
Louis does bring up some good points, Adam...and the ad certainly makes it look like a sale through a business...although a hand-written bill of sale sounds fishy. I guess you have some questions to answer with these folks...any way we look at it, it ain't tech or import or 24V stuff.

Good luck.

I think this forum might be more pertinent to this discussion. I hope your wife makes it home safely, Jack.
 
thank you for your consern for my wife ............i was looking at some pics at waynes web site and have fell more in love with this crazy little unit than i was before the probleme began i am under the impression that once the head is replaced it should be a better engine /the problem has been rectified ? any one know if this is true or not and last but not least in my world it would make no diff to me if i was a dealer a curber or just a guy selling some thining i must be a good guy because i would feel like crap and would defenetly do something about the stiuation other than say oh well buyer be were......there is a reson for sayings like that and it is because of sellers like that,,,,,,,but hey oh well i got me a land cruiser i hope and i think at some point in time it will be a good thing and im sorry for all this crap i wasn't sure were i should have posted my problem as i am very new here.
 
warranty aside, this is none of my business. i do not know the buyer or the seller personally.

as for the overheating, real life experience:

should the engine have had over heating problems you will know well with in the first hour or even very few minutes. these buggers SCREAM for attention when the head cracks. the 3B heads all crack but you can go months even years before the problem shows up. the 2LT/2LTE let you know imediately.

when the brown LJ finally puked it's head it was on the way to Edmonton and as most know Calgary to Edmonton is fairly flat. We left Calgary and took the back roads. it was fine till just the other side of Red Deer and i hit the first gravel road. the road was soft and i was working the girl. the pyro was at normal (14 # of boost helps keep the pyro down) and the fixed fan was doing it's job but as soon as i stopped at the "T" the girl puked it's guts. i filled the rad and drove on about 15 minutes and was overheating again. it got so bad that once i reached edmonton i had to fill up twice to make the north end of the city. the moral of the story? once the heads let go there is no "hiding" it. if Adam actually sold the truck knowing the head was cracked then your wife would never have made it up the first hill without the over heating. 300 miles through the mountains tells me the truck issues could easily have started after purchase.

another case:

a lady buys a LJ78, we do the basic tests before she bought the truck, and i personally have driven the truck many times and knew there was no over heating issues. i taught her about the pyro and to keep an eye on the temp guage. i taught her about how the little engine likes to be driven (and they do not like hills especially long gentle hills) and 6 months later she cracks the head. she tells me she was heading out to the Kanaskis to run and this day the head wind from the west was particularily nasty but she pushed the truck at 1000F (with times up to 1200F) for an hour and even pulled over because the water temp climbed up. this is much more than she was taught, she was instructed that 1000F was max with a couple seconds to 1100F. long story short, she baked the head. now she has put a couple thousand km on the truck, should i repair the truck at my expense? no. she WAS properly trained and informed and there was no issues before.
am i repairing the truck? yes, i am paying for the parts and she is paying for the labour. why? because i know this person, she is not an agressive driver and i do know about the issue with the heads. i feel responsible even though i have done all i could to train her properly.

<BTW, now, right on the bill of sale, the heads are no longer warrantied except at time of purchase. the tests will be done in front of the purchaser and if the purchaser wants they are free to take it to an idependent shop. i can not afford to warranty $3000 "ooopses" which these engines will not tolerate.>

this is a couple of my experiences with the 2LTE and how cracking can happen in a very short period of time after purchase.

Hawke, i have no wish for you to leave the forum and never hinted at it. you have the right to your opinion.

Adam, welcome to the problems of selling to a tight knit community as ours. one word of caution, whatever you do will either leave a good taste in the mouths of fellow cruiserheads or not. if you do walk away you might be shooting yourself in the foot.

once again i hope everyone can work this out.

once the head is replaced AND IF you take the precautions that i have stated many times on the forum, i feel you will absolutely LOVE this truck. My wife loves hers, she drives one back and forth to work each day even though her BMW is sitting here waiting for her. Her wheeling rig is a LJ78 and she keeps up with no effort at all. they are comfortable, quiet, roomy and a pleasure to drive (a bit gutlesss till the boost is increased). i have no doubt you will love the truck. i have been trying out the fixed fan and it works very well at keeping the water temp down. if you have any questions or want to talk then give me a call
403-701-8058.

Stoney, actually this is right up there with the importing thread that Bruce Lowen started. thanks for moving it to the international section with a link remaining here.

cheers
 
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a few questions for canadam...

searching your posts i came across some regarding your radiator. you apparently removed and repaired it. what was the problem with it? and why can i no longer find those posts? when did you rebuild the rad?

when bev stopped in hinton a fellow looked under the hood and told her she had a pinhole leak in the rad?

had you replaced the thermostat or is it the original?

did you find and install that hitch you were looking for? if so, what did you pull?

...your web site has disappeared...no problem, got the info i need from cache!
 
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lshobie said:
Is Canadam the same guy as Previa Diesel on this board - the guy selling the HZJ77 in the classified section?
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you know what, Louis... i think i screwed up... i will deleat that part of my post...
 
Question for Wayne.

After reading this with some interest, I to am going to make the same trip within the next week .( from 100 Mile House to Edmonton ) taking the same route over the mountains that Jack's wife took.

My 90 LJ71 has the same motor ( 2LTE ) with only 65,000 k's. Auto tranny. I am well aware of the overheating issues with this motor and at this time I am quite sure that I do not have a cracked head.

At one time I thought I had one with the overflow tank nearly overflowing on drives, but that seemed to have cured itself with replacing the rad cap from 88C to 82C.

It appears that the units in question are LJ78 's which are longer, bigger and heavier ( est. at least 400 lbs heavier minimum. ) than my smaller LJ71.

Have there been any cases in where the the LJ71's have an advantage due to the lighter weight in where they do not overheat as much as the bigger and heavier LJ78's even though the engines are the same.

Peter
 
Peter,
there have been very few LJ71s with the 2LTE in them brought over (or that i have seen anyway.
the problems will be the same, the weight difference is a mear 500 lbs, not enough in my books to even think of relaxing the issues.
i would install a pyro for sure and i would also look at a boost guage and remove the waste gate hose and plug it. this REALLY helps on the EGT readings. the pyro will "teach" you how to drive the unit. watch it and drive accordingly. you probably have the manual tranny. when the egts climb up then down shift and take the revs up, this purges the system and allows for quicker flow of the exhaust gasses which reduce the EGTs. lugging these engines is bad, very bad. the EGTs can quickly go through the roof. they like the higher revs but that being said you have to watch the water temp if going for long distances at higher revs.
IF IN DOUBT PULL OVER and let the engine cool.
i have seen many of the LJ71s with the 2LT in them take a severe abuse and are doing fine. i have beat the LJ78 that is Berni's wheeling rig and it took many thousands of km to finally kill the head.
DO NOT OVERHEAT THIS ENGINE, it is a $3000 repair bill.

cheers
 
hi guys just letting you know that my wife made it home this morning and she brought me a key......a key.......i was expecting more like say ...tires or something...lol but it is a very nice key....lol needless to say i wont be going for breakfast this morning and off to try some wheeling.this key is not that comfy or stable....lol...
the vehical is now at japanees motors in edmonton....it will be looked at thursday by a guy named matt. he has told my wife that he has worked on these before...apparently dan at 4 wheel auto has all the parts i need in stock.
one quick ? would the new head be exactly the same, hence the same problem over again or is it a little bit of a different design? and once again, thank you for your advice and any and all the help that you guys have given.
 
when you say pull over and let it cool down should it be shut of or just idle they say there are no stupid ? but the ones that go unasked and this one feel like a stupid one thanks for your reply
 
champjack said:
hi guys just letting you know that my wife made it home this morning and she brought me a key......a key.......i was expecting more like say ...tires or something...lol but it is a very nice key....lol needless to say i wont be going for breakfast this morning and off to try some wheeling.this key is not that comfy or stable....lol...
the vehical is now at japanees motors in edmonton....it will be looked at thursday by a guy named matt. he has told my wife that he has worked on these before...apparently dan at 4 wheel auto has all the parts i need in stock.
one quick ? would the new head be exactly the same, hence the same problem over again or is it a little bit of a different design? and once again, thank you for your advice and any and all the help that you guys have given.
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i never heard of Matt...
the head is a change up part number, not sure why. the recommendation is to change to a 2.8L head but we have done a couple actual replacement heads but there is not enough milage to see if the problem head is now a thing of the past.
once you have the new head then take the proper precautions. you now know there "can" be a problem so try and advoid it.
cheers

that is a pretty expensive key.
 
champjack said:
when you say pull over and let it cool down should it be shut of or just idle they say there are no stupid ? but the ones that go unasked and this one feel like a stupid one thanks for your reply
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since it is a clutch fan then i would bring the revs up to about 2000 and with no load (and if the clutch fan is funtioning properly) then the engine should cool properly. if the temp keep climbing then just shut it down and go to sleep for a bit.
cheers
 
Champjack: I'm glad your wife made it home safely...that's the most important thing. Too bad about the rough start to owning this LJ...I hope it's smooth sailing from here on in. Best of luck. :beer:
 
As stated, I'll no longer comment on providing a warranty, it's no longer an issue.

I'm not Previa Diesel, by the way.

As for Linda's questions, they may assist in the repair of the truck, so I'd be happy to answer:

I had the radiator rebuilt back in January as it had a leak at the top of the tank. This was mentioned to the buyer. As for why you can't find the posts, I suppose you're not looking hard enough. Here's the thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=74630&highlight=rad

I never changed the thermostat, it operated properly while I owned the truck, so there was no reason to.

Are you accusing me of taking off a hidden hitch when I sold the vehicle? The buyer asked me if any part of the vehicle would be removed when it was turned over to her. The answer was "my satellite radio." Oh, and I took my vinyl phone numbers off the window for them. When viewed the truck had no other hitch than the factory loop on it.

As for being an illegitamate business, I made that website with the intentions of starting an import company. The buyer can assure you that it was not used in the sale. The truck was originally viewed and bid on eBay, where it didn't reach reserve price. The sale was made after that, privately. The buyers will agree that no mention of my fabricated "Canadam Enterprises" was made, the truck was sold from person to person.

There's not a post on this board that Wayne makes and people ignore. Crusher's has absolutely no reason to defend me, he doesn't know me. He's also one of the most knowledgable people around regarding the 2LTE. Notice this:
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once the heads let go there is no "hiding" it. if Adam actually sold the truck knowing the head was cracked then your wife would never have made it up the first hill without the over heating. 300 miles through the mountains tells me the truck issues could easily have started after purchase.
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This thread originated as one for Jack looking for assistance with his LandCruiser problem, the fact that it has turned to a "turn on Adam" forum is sad.
 
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