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[light_duty]

Should have pulled over right there. Sounds like an air-lock.

I've got money that says it was already too late. When my head went, that was the main symptom. Exhaust gas gets into the waterjacket, locks it up, and the engine overheats.

I'd be willing to bet that a head crack caused the airlock and overheat, not the other way 'round.

Robin

 

[semlin]

So anyone selling anything in Canada is liable for everything after the sale.

Are the roots in French or English law?

I am amazed.

for a short time yes. and it is english based law. i am amazed you guys get along with pure caveat emptor.

 

[Cruisin'Carolina]

I'm sure Hawke and his "sister" are good people just looking out for their bro....at whatever cost...

To sum up my thoughts.......that cost should be considered....

 

[hawkesis]

I'll also hold on to the realization, as is reaffirmed in my office everyday, is that people stretched thin will turn on you in a heartbeat, and forget about personal responsibility to avoid shouldering a loss. It is human nature. The ugly side, sure, but human nature unfettered by sense of right and wrong.

CC, adam can take himself off the hook!

Jack is more than willing to take responsibily for fixing this vehicle at his own expense. He fully intends to do just that.

You're right...it did stretch him financially to purchase it, #13500.00
add these additional expenses
$3500.00 (potentially)
$500.00 towing
$120.00 bus fare for wife
$200.00 airfare to pick up vehicle

it has been an expensive endeavor for a guy who works hard for his money. Hard lessons, well learned!
You work in the insurance industry, as a result sound jaded and cynical, as well as suspicious.

You've given adam a lot of leeway here, very generous of you.

Jack has done the same.

I think most of the guys on this board have probably bought and sold vehicles, perhaps that is why general consensus appears to favour Adam.

Hopefully none of you end up with a vehicle you drive 300 miles and it fries.

If you do keep me posted on how you handle it.

That was a great series between the Edmonton oilers and Carolina.

 

[hawkesis]

crushers...a question for you.

----I just had lunch with Bev, she said she turned on the heater when the over-heating started in an attempt to help cool the engine.

A:
this was an inteligent move and most would not have know to do this. congrates.
this tells me that the water level was too low to circulate properly. did anyone check the coolant level before the trip? (no, i am not trying to point fingers either way) if there was a pin hole leak in the rad she might have smelt a sweet antifreeze smell and there should have been fluid covering the front of the engine. now, she might not have noticed this if the engine did boil over but on the LJ78 the vent goes down the passenger's inner fender so then the coolant should not have gotten on the front of the engine from the boil over (i am assuming that the engine did actually boil over).
one suggestion, before the rad gets replaced i would cover the hole and then do a coolant pressure test to see if there is any other leaks also fire the truck up and bring it to operating temp then shut it down for about 10 minutes, fire it up again and see if a cloud of white smoke comes out. if so then pull the head and replace, it is cracked.

----Could this mean it was a faulty water pump?
A:
not too likely. i have not had any issue with the water pumps so far but i do recommend a new one should any work be done in that area i.e. timing belt replacement (which i do recommend if you replace the head and replace the 2? idlers at the same time.

hope this helps.

Bev, sorry to hear of your misfortune. i really hope all works out in the end.

cheers

thanks for the information, appreciate it!

 

[Previa Diesel]

I've got money that says it was already too late. When my head went, that was the main symptom. Exhaust gas gets into the waterjacket, locks it up, and the engine overheats.

I'd be willing to bet that a head crack caused the airlock and overheat, not the other way 'round.

Interesting, but it gets to be 'chicken and egg' doesn't it? Was the low coolant level responsible for the head cracking...?

I know one thing, I wouldn't ask my wife to drive a truck through the Rockies without getting the thing carefully inspected and the brake fluid changed first.

 

[champjack]

you obviously don't know my wife

 

[champjack]

but hey; you could take that two ways. either i was trying to kill her or she has a good grasp of what travilling in a vehical is all about

 

[champjack]

 

[hawkesis]

I know one thing, I wouldn't ask my wife to drive a truck through the Rockies without getting the thing carefully inspected and the brake fluid changed first.

After all Jack has been through he doesn't need your freakin' judgment!

 

[Previa Diesel]

you obviously don't know my wife

Indeed I don't and since you seem so well-grounded and reasonable, no doubt you knew exactly what you were doing.

After all Jack has been through he doesn't need your freakin' judgment!:

The "judgement" exists only in your mind. I was thinking of what I would do in regard to MY wife.

Good to know you appreciated the information on how to solve your brother's problem for $1000. instead of $3500.

It's business hours in OZ now. I suggest you order your/his new head and gasket today. It should be here in week with air freight.

I actually called your brother's number when I saw this thread begin to see if I could offer some useful info.

If you don't want to hear a different viewpoint, don't post on a public forum. You may not have noticed, but I can see that great restraint is being exercised around here in deference to your gender and emotional state.

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As for our laws, they are, thank God, not based on the Code Napoleon but on English Common Law, for now at least.

 

[Hawke]

I can see that great restraint is being exercised around here in deference to your gender and emotional state.

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That's a good point. We all need to be careful when communicating with women. They are quite delicate, especially when emotional. Don't upset them. You don't know how unpredictable a woman can be.

 

[light_duty]

After 6 pages, what's become most clear to me is that champjack is one hell of a good sport.

 

[Zimm]

CC, adam can take himself off the hook!





it has been an expensive endeavor for a guy who works hard for his money. Hard lessons, well learned!
You work in the insurance industry, as a result sound jaded and cynical, as well as suspicious.

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im not in the insurance industry, so i dont think hes jaded. i think he hit the nail on the head.

in fact, buying a JDM used car, and not having any money in the bank to fix it, is akin to buying a 250000 house, and having no money if to furnish it, or fix a roof leak. its irresponsible to streach yourself too thin. buying theses trucks is game ment for discretionary income. and dragging some guy thru the mud w/o proof, to squeak buy is just.......

 

[hawkesis]

Good Morning Zimm,

Thank you very much for the enlightening words.

My bad.....you sound very wise, balanced and kind-hearted.

Hence forth I shall follow your example making sure my impulse purchases only reflect my actual bank statement, advising my little bro he should do the same.

As for Adam.....he should do quite well, financially speaking. It would appear he has a great head and heart for a savey business transaction. Perhaps Jack could learn something from him?

Adam did say he was selling the vehicle to return to school....I hope he does well, and dodges the karma incurred which may bite him in the ass.

Peace my friend...
`linda

 

[Hawke]

in fact, buying a JDM used car, and not having any money in the bank to fix it, is akin to buying a 250000 house, and having no money if to furnish it, or fix a roof leak. its irresponsible to streach yourself too thin. buying theses trucks is game ment for discretionary income. and dragging some guy thru the mud w/o proof, to squeak buy is just.......

No one has suggested he doesn't have the money to fix it. It's being repaired and he is paying for the repairs. However, like most of us I would suggest, getting a $3,000.00 to $4,000.00 hit immediately after buying an expensive used vehicle is somewhat painful on the buget.

To use your analogy, it's like buying a $250,000.00 house and the day you move in the two car garage collapses through no fault of your own. I don't know about you, but I couldn't simply shrug my shoulders and write it off as caveat emptor.

 

[Cruisin'Carolina]

DIE THREAD DIE

Just kidding. I am a little jaded, and cynical. The ones that cry foul earliest and loudest, without even knowing what the hell is even wrong with the dam truck, naturally arouse some suspicion.

Why is that? Because they are not thinking clearly and ump to assume somebody's out to get them. In this case family bonds created more of a problem for the buyer than we still to this day know about that truck.

Find out the facts, fix the damn thing, offer only proof instead of conjecture if you are going to attack somebody, and no one will react as they have here.

Everything to date is based on overlooking the obvious. Maybe in the future things will show differently. I don't care. I don't know either.

Prove what you can prove, and if you can't, then it's OK to complain, but never to drag somebody through the dirt.

Champjack knows what he needs to do.

This is just plain getting silly. Either Adam intentionally screwed Jack, or he didn't. Canadian law aside, the basic premise of this thread has been on moral grounds. And there are no facts to date that can be proven that Adam did anything wrong.

This isn't about protecting Adam. This is about jumping the gun when even the buyer knows what precautions he could've taken to avoid the issue. He understands that, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why other people can't...

As evidenced by the garage collapse line above....Buyer Beware isn't just embedded in the legal system. It is good advice. Did the owner know about the structural defect? Can you prove it? Did you order a home inspection? Naw. It's "no fault of your own"....

Some people get it, some don't. It is obvious that an hour or so of typing cannot undo the embedded views that some have been reinforcing in their own mind for a lifetime.

All I can say is that if one takes the mindset of controlling life, instead of playing the victim...amazing things can happen. Nothing but bad happens if you don't. It's an attitude.

 

[crushers]

No one has suggested he doesn't have the money to fix it. It's being repaired and he is paying for the repairs. However, like most of us I would suggest, getting a $3,000.00 to $4,000.00 hit immediately after buying an expensive used vehicle is somewhat painful on the buget.

To use your analogy, it's like buying a $250,000.00 house and the day you move in the two car garage collapses through no fault of your own. I don't know about you, but I couldn't simply shrug my shoulders and write it off as caveat emptor.

i have to agree, an unexpected expense like this would probably hurt most of us, ESPECIALLY shortly after dropping the $13,000 a couple days before.

 

[hawkesis]

DIE THREAD DIE

Just kidding. I am a little jaded, and cynical. The ones that cry foul earliest and loudest, without even knowing what the hell is even wrong with the dam truck, naturally arouse some suspicion.

stop responding to the thread...it will die and go away!

Why is that? Because they are not thinking clearly and ump to assume somebody's out to get them. In this case family bonds created more of a problem for the buyer than we still to this day know about that truck.


ADAM, I am SORRY! Let me wipe that mud off your face! Mud belongs on the prado, not you.
These guys aren't really doing you any favour by not even allowing you to take responsiblity for your actions.
fo god's sake...someone suggested it wasmy fault you disappeared from the board and tucked your vulnerable little head under the rock like a turtle.

It's ok to come out and play...i promise to go away!

I know you weren't out to GET anyone, just a kid liven his life.

Everything to date is based on overlooking the obvious. Maybe in the future things will show differently. I don't care. I don't know either.

Prove what you can prove, and if you can't, then it's OK to complain, but never to drag somebody through the dirt.

Champjack knows what he needs to do.

This is just plain getting silly. Either Adam intentionally screwed Jack, or he didn't. Canadian law aside, the basic premise of this thread has been on moral grounds. And there are no facts to date that can be proven that Adam did anything wrong.




This isn't about protecting Adam. This is about jumping the gun when even the buyer knows what precautions he could've taken to avoid the issue. He understands that, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why other people can't...

As evidenced by the garage collapse line above....Buyer Beware isn't just embedded in the legal system. It is good advice. Did the owner know about the structural defect? Can you prove it? Did you order a home inspection? Naw. It's "no fault of your own"....

Some people get it, some don't. It is obvious that an hour or so of typing cannot undo the embedded views that some have been reinforcing in their own mind for a lifetime.

don't even begin to suggest you know me!

All I can say is that if one takes the mindset of controlling life, instead of playing the victim...amazing things can happen. Nothing but bad happens if you don't. It's an attitude.

I am no victim! If that is what you've taken away from this exchange I suggest your projecting a wee bit.

 

[dieselDaryl]

Well, I think its time to lock this thread. There has been lots of good discussion around moral and legal issues of buying used vehicles, but at this point it’s getting more into personal attacks. Ultimately it comes down to the two parties resolving this issue on their own. Anyone who feels they have more to contribute can PM the individual(s) directly

Cheers,
Daryl