Build HDJ80 LHD #snlcbuilt Ute (pickup)

[SNLC]

So now that I have gone with a 1HDFTE engine in this build should I go with this in front of the Black Box and behind the FTE?



AB60F 200-series 1VD v8 twin turbo 6spd auto! Holy crap I think I may have just talked myself into it since I am stealing the H152 trans for my 77-series build. This would be a worlds first to put a Black Box behind this transmission, I am sure of that!!

Cheers

 

[sjpitts]

So now that I have gone with a 1HDFTE engine in this build should I go with this in front of the Black Box and behind the FTE?

AB60F 200-series 1VD v8 twin turbo 6spd auto! Holy crap I think I may have just talked myself into it since I am stealing the H152 trans for my 77-series build. This would be a worlds first to put a Black Box behind this transmission, I am sure of that!!

Cheers

You are causing more transmission envy. Can you put one of those behind an FZJ engine?

As you know, Cruiser and Company has their new kit to replace my old and tired 442 with an A750F-- which sounds like pure awesome. But maybe by the time I have the funds available the AB60F will be another option.

Not that my 30+ year old 80 series or its 55+ year old driver really needs six speeds

 

[SNLC]

You are causing more transmission envy. Can you put one of those behind an FZJ engine?

As you know, Cruiser and Company has their new kit to replace my old and tired 442 with an A750F-- which sounds like pure awesome. But maybe by the time I have the funds available the AB60F will be another option.

Not that my 30+ year old 80 series or its 55+ year old driver really needs six speeds

It’s more expensive than the 750, the AB60 is not cheap but still available new from Toyota. That adapter kit is also not cheap.

But yes this trans can be fitted behind a 1FZ. I am discussing things with Hyperfab.

Cheers

 

[G-Cat]

Status?

 

[SNLC]

Status?

Stalled currently.



Cheers

 

[White Sheep]

Stalled currently.



Cheers

がんばってください. Meaning good luck, or keep at it in Japanese

 

[landtank]

It’s more expensive than the 750, the AB60 is not cheap but still available new from Toyota. That adapter kit is also not cheap.

But yes this trans can be fitted behind a 1FZ. I am discussing things with Hyperfab.

Cheers

I don’t get all the transmission hype. Sure they are more efficient , but what’s the increase result. And when this cobbled solution fails, how many shops can handle this.

 

[Mag71k5]

I don’t get all the transmission hype. Sure they are more efficient , but what’s the increase result. And when this cobbled solution fails, how many shops can handle this.

The AB60 (6 speed) is nice, but not as nice as an 8HP70X (8 speed). In my mind what someone with a heavy rig wants are those lower gear ratios offered by 8HP. If it's going to be a giant pain with adapters, TCU's, etc. I'm not sure why you'd pick less gears, plus the 8HP70X's are pretty cheap from wrecked BMW's I paid 600.00 for one with 80k miles on it.

Gear	Toyota AB60F (6-Speed)	BMW 8HP70X (8-Speed)
1st	3.333 : 1	4.714 : 1
2nd	1.960 : 1	3.143 : 1
3rd	1.353 : 1	2.106 : 1
4th	1.000 : 1 (Direct)	1.667 : 1
5th	0.728 : 1 (Overdrive 1)	1.285 : 1
6th	0.588 : 1 (Overdrive 2)	1.000 : 1 (Direct)
7th	N/A	0.839 : 1 (Overdrive 1)
8th	N/A	0.667 : 1 (Overdrive 2)
Reverse	3.061 : 1	-3.317 : 1
Total Spread	5.67 : 1	7.07 : 1

 

[landtank]

The AB60 (6 speed) is nice, but not as nice as an 8HP70X (8 speed). In my mind what someone with a heavy rig wants are those lower gear ratios offered by 8HP. If it's going to be a giant pain with adapters, TCU's, etc. I'm not sure why you'd pick less gears, plus the 8HP70X's are pretty cheap from wrecked BMW's I paid 600.00 for one with 80k miles on it.

Gear	Toyota AB60F (6-Speed)	BMW 8HP70X (8-Speed)
1st	3.333 : 1	4.714 : 1
2nd	1.960 : 1	3.143 : 1
3rd	1.353 : 1	2.106 : 1
4th	1.000 : 1 (Direct)	1.667 : 1
5th	0.728 : 1 (Overdrive 1)	1.285 : 1
6th	0.588 : 1 (Overdrive 2)	1.000 : 1 (Direct)
7th	N/A	0.839 : 1 (Overdrive 1)
8th	N/A	0.667 : 1 (Overdrive 2)
Reverse	3.061 : 1	-3.317 : 1
Total Spread	5.67 : 1	7.07 : 1

I’m not disputing your information but I can’t comprehend it either. It’s just beyond my 68yo brain.

 

[Mag71k5]

I’m not disputing your information but I can’t comprehend it either. It’s just beyond my 68yo brain.

Yeah, i think its an effort to make a 30 year old rig, drive like a 10 year old rig, or better honestly.

 

[SNLC]

How’s the saying go? “Copying is flattery”?







Cheers

 

[SNLC]

I don’t get all the transmission hype. Sure they are more efficient , but what’s the increase result. And when this cobbled solution fails, how many shops can handle this.

Well then it is not for you, right?

Simple.

Cheers

 

[tmxmotorsports]

How’s the saying go? “Copying is flattery”?







Cheers

They are spying on you

 

[landtank]

Well then it is not for you, right?

Simple.

Cheers

not sure if it is or not. and apparently you can't help me understand it either.

 

[SNLC]

not sure if it is or not. and apparently you can't help me understand it either.

I am not trying to sell you something nor is my build thread about you.

If you don’t need more than four gears and or increased strength than it would never be a product or swap for you, as I already said.

Cheers

 

[landtank]

I am not trying to sell you something nor is my build thread about you.

If you don’t need more than four gears and or increased strength than it would never be a product or swap for you, as I already said.

Cheers

It’s not about selling me something. It’s about understanding the value of what you claim to be an improvement.

 

[SNLC]

It’s not about selling me something. It’s about understanding the value of what you claim to be an improvement.

Improvements for my truck. I don’t care one bit about your opinion on my claims or statements.

Sounds to me like you just want to argue about it here in my build thread plus your initial post about it here in my build thread was fairly negative so I am done responding to you.

Cheers