I should take this time to compliment you again on the product though, I did the first day with them in and the next couple of days with it out and what a difference it makes. its not that you get that much more flex its more like turning off physics in terms of body movement. you still move around but over undulating terrain you would be hard pressed to guess whats going on under your butt with how smoothly the axles transition.I do appreciate the feedback. The big vendors claim ever 80 is a little different. I do try to cover everybody.