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[crushers]

IF we need another moderator, and i think Stoney will speak up if he needs a second, then i feel it should be someone qualified. my vote, if there is a vote, will be for Brown Bear. he has actually helped forum members out with advice and encouragement in their projects.

amd i have to agree with Hawke, if you do not like chat or any other forum then don't go there...

 

[woody]

IMO, the best Mod's are those who are online 2-3x per day, breezing posts. They are NOT the most knowledgable, NOT the most experienced, but do enjoy the forum and enjoy popping in-out a few times a day to keep up with what's going on.

Those who ARE highly knowledgable tend to go thru cycles of answering a lot of questions and getting burned out. Because of those cycles, they often are online 1x per day, or 3-4x per week, helping in doses rather than allowing themselves to burnout.

Allowing the mods to be more of an interested monitor and not a "required" participant keeps the time committment down.

 

[Diescipel]

"This biased drivel" is an opinion extended by a forum member. Why jump on him for that? It seems everyone is contributing opinions in this thread, including you.

Yes, I'm expressing opinions, but (1) they are directed at the title/subject of this thread, and (2) they are not personal attacks. Those seem to be two criteria that we need to strongly establish if we are to keep this forum from degenerating--again the subject of this thread.

Just my opinion.

B

 

[Tapage]

I keep in my mind when you start in the forums worl you don't use ( or like use ) the search ooption .. then, you enter in some place and post a question .. so members then redirect to the right place ..

I thought ( strongly ) Keep one " Diesel " forum .. and tha's it.

Inside you can found a lots of diesel info, and in my mind I keep info from FZJ-71 to HDJ-81 as well but if you have a Diesel engine, you start in the right point. Diesel secction.

In my opinion is the same line, all diesel engines, no matter what if they come in a LJ or KZJ for example .. is too much diferent for my the gas world.

So when I come to the forum my first stop is at Internat secction, and if I even so I have time go to other secctions ..

 

[rick_d]

Why are some of you opposed to a total diesel forum? We can help conversions out even if our bias is toward factory. Plain truth is many do not have the funds for an OE diesel conversion (if they did G&S, Wayne, Brett t etc would sell all engines in 2 days) and some believe that they can swap a Perkins or Isuzu for 1/2 the cost. Bring all those questions on- we talk about aftermarket turbos and vacuum pumps anyway- right? (es ist nicht verboten?).

As for retrofitting a BJ74 with rear seat belts, it's not diesel tech, and no J60 or J80 owner gives a crap.

but as I have said from the beginning, if another knuckle rebuild question or driveshaft question or H55 question pops up, those in all groups (except IFS guys) might actually be able to share their ideas. Maybe a "multipost" header -"can you help this guy out?" pops up.

I bailed from the lcml and diesel lists years ago because of waste of bandwidth. For tech I go to the current international, for humor to chat. I know if I had time I could ad to 60, 45, 25, and 40 sections more but I am a little thin (drinking coffee for the morning then off to work to wrap up planned holiday stuff). I own and operate a diesel 7X series and converted it from 4cy to 6 cy. I must focus on its ascension (or demise).

 

[Mikesta]

It's always bothered me that just because the americans never got diesels, 70, 90's, etc., why is our forum not called the 7X/9X forum, or the Diesel forum? Why must this forum be singled out as being distinclty not american, while every other forum is specific to a particular model which was sold in the great and mighty USA?

I call upon the moderators to change this forum name. I do not want it changed to the 7/9/12/B/H forum. That's just Silly pandering. I say we embrace the silliness, and I demand that we call it the "Forum on Unamerican acTECHvities".

Who's with me. Rise up people, rise up and be heard! We don't' want to be International anymore. Nay! We want to be be Unamerican!

The Unamerican Peter Straub

I'll call you a Waaaaambulance

 

[denis]

Why are some of you opposed to a total diesel forum? We can help conversions out even if our bias is toward factory. Plain truth is many do not have the funds for an OE diesel conversion (if they did G&S, Wayne, Brett t etc would sell all engines in 2 days) and some believe that they can swap a Perkins or Isuzu for 1/2 the cost. Bring all those questions on- we talk about aftermarket turbos and vacuum pumps anyway- right? (es ist nicht verboten?).

As for retrofitting a BJ74 with rear seat belts, it's not diesel tech, and no J60 or J80 owner gives a crap.

but as I have said from the beginning, if another knuckle rebuild question or driveshaft question or H55 question pops up, those in all groups (except IFS guys) might actually be able to share their ideas. Maybe a "multipost" header -"can you help this guy out?" pops up.

I couldn't agree more. Like I said above, if the whole tech stuff was ozganized in a more logical, less artificial manner than it is now, scoping would be all the more efficient, and the questions would be answered a lot faster and more in-depth. Imagine all the tech experts from the 40/50, 60, 70, 80, truck sections all browsing and participating in the unified relevant sections. How awesome would that be ? I'm pretty sure very few of us spend enough time here to browse through all of the forums. I'm talking for those who have not had the chance to have a look at this topic yet

 

[wesintl]

Since were still chatting about this.. my C/B manual covers the 60 and 70. So following factory manuals just isn't going to work. Besides there is a certian amount of my series is better than yours. I think it works here because we have the diesel trump card. The 70 section does pose quite of a quandry as an LJ 77 doesn't have much in common with bj70.

Seems like there are alot of votes to stay the same. I think there seems to be quite a bit of chat lately. Regular chat is a whole different ball game. What if there was a chat sub forum of intl much like there is a 25 classifieds in the 25 section? Maybe it can help get intl back on track and there is a unique place to converse internationally...?

 

[woody]

Like I said above, if the whole tech stuff was ozganized in a more logical, less artificial manner than it is now, scoping would be all the more efficient, and the questions would be answered a lot faster and more in-depth. Imagine all the tech experts from the 40/50, 60, 70, 80, truck sections all browsing and participating in the unified relevant sections. How awesome would that be ? I'm pretty sure very few of us spend enough time here to browse through all of the forums.

and imagine how bored those "tech experts" will quickly become as they read through 10 different tech related forums, knowing they primarily have answers/info on only one series of Cruiser...variety within each section is what keeps them interesting.

it's a guaranteed traffic killer, and the general layout of the forums isn't going to change.

 

[denis]

and imagine how bored those "tech experts" will quickly become as they read through 10 different tech related forums, knowing they primarily have answers/info on only one series of Cruiser...variety within each section is what keeps them interesting.

I knew I was missing something

 

[woody]

screen shot, early November 2003...probably 55,000 total posts at that time....

 

[wussyPup]

Did a bunch of cleanup and moved a bunch of threads tonight. Don't tell Junk, but I moved a tire size question thread into his 80 series Tech forum...LOL! We'll see how long it takes him to figure it out...and if he says anything.

That thread was all about the power of the HDJ81 with auto transmission and that combination's ability to turn 315s; it wasn't about what sized tyres would fit in an 80.

So my question is more that of power.

I was just wondering power wise:
With an auto and 4.10's could I turn 315's that well? Or would I need to re-gear? I searched the archives and I could only find answers for the gas engine, not the diesel.

It was first posted in the 80 series forum.

First response started off with:

How are you getting the truck imported, and how much, if you dont mind me asking.

Next response:

You'd be better suited asking the question in the Intl tech forum or on the Intl 80's email list. Most here are from the US thus driving petrol 80s.

While the thread was in International, it had 3 responses from people with that setup.

The response in the 80 forum with the closest related setup was from someone with

a 1995 manual 1HZ with turbo kit, and 315's. it makes about 20hp more than a 1HD

So, although it was worth asking in the 80 section too, International answered the question better.

IMO, this is a good example of a thread that belongs in the "Cruisers not marketed by Toyota in the USA" aka International forum instead of the equivalent body style forum.

-Steve

 

[Stone]

Can never make everyone happy...

I've heard Peter and Darryl (Brownbear) volunteer their services to co-moderate this section so far. Anyone else want to step up to the plate? Frankly, being administrator to a very busy fishing site and moderating another not-so-busy flyfishing site on top of this Cruiser one, has me speed reading through posts. I'm up to my neck with the internet, and it sounds like some people are crying for more attention for this one. It would only be fair to everyone to have another mod.

 

[wesintl]

Can never make everyone happy...

I've heard Peter and Darryl (Brownbear) volunteer their services to co-moderate this section so far. Anyone else want to step up to the plate? Frankly, being administrator to a very busy fishing site and moderating another not-so-busy flyfishing site on top of this Cruiser one, has me speed reading through posts. I'm up to my neck with the internet, and it sounds like some people are crying for more attention for this one. It would only be fair to everyone to have another mod.

Considering we didn't even want a moderator a year or so ago I think you did a fine job . Here's to the perfect drift

 

[The Dude]

I like the version #3 that woody posted.

It lists most cruisers and lets noobs know exactly where to post.

I also miss the tech on the DTLC list and the community of the LCML and I really miss the banter on the RMLCA list.

As for moderators, Stones doing a pretty good job.

Peter would make a fine mod. I think he might stir things up once and a while too, which is always entertaining, but maybe not the job of a mod... I think it is. Gets everybody thinking and questioning their decisions.

It's a tough job, and tough to make everybody happy. Take for instance the SOA cost thread. Not really internat'l, not really 60 tech, and IMO not hardcore. But, there was a bit of a difference, the guy that made the origanal post had a HJ61, so as it stands where does he go???

I would not of found that post in the 60 tech, as I don't frequent there. And the only place to get some info on issues with cable lockers and the 12H-T is the internat' l forum. With a new layout listing all cruisers, a guy might have a better chance on where to ask the question. And I might frequent the 60/61/61 tech board more if I new there was going to be 61 specific info

 

[VTCruiser]

add 105 series to 100 board?

 

[NStimac]

I think we should stay the same. I have to echo a lot of brownbears concerns. The International forum has always been a one stop shop. Maybe I am just lazy but I usually only check here and my club's section. I don't really feel like were so large we need to split. Mostly I haven't been convinced that splitting will bring tech back into our section. Maybe we have grown and need a second mod. Stoney is great but sound like he's stretched pretty thin. I like all the names I have seen offered so far. Although Peter may not be my first choice he and Stone could make a nice "good cop bad cop" duo. But what do I know. We could leave it to a poll and let the masses speak.

My .02 US cents
-Noah

 

[woody]

given those who have tossed their online hat in the ring, brownbear would be my choice.

Nothing against Peter, but mods work effectively if they aren't online for "sheer entertainment value" ....lol


At this point, I'm inclined to add the additional mod, keep the forum in one place as is now, and rename to "Diesel Tech and 24-volt Systems"....there will likely come a time when 7x stuff will need it's own home, but I'm not sure that time has yet arrived.

 

[brownbear]

given those who have tossed their online hat in the ring, brownbear would be my choice.

Nothing against Peter, but mods work effectively if they aren't online for "sheer entertainment value" ....lol


At this point, I'm inclined to add the additional mod, keep the forum in one place as is now, and rename to "Diesel Tech and 24-volt Systems"....there will likely come a time when 7x stuff will need it's own home, but I'm not sure that time has yet arrived.

Ya I don't mind helping out Stone. This is a great site and provides many of us with hours of fun almost every day.

Thanks everyone who thinks my judgement could be of help to our excellent area.

I can only imagine how this site will grow in the future as more and more viewers start joining.

I can see us spitting up in the future. All of these ideas mentioned are on the right road in the future. Eventually we will need specific areas as to not dilute our tech. But for now the pace and feel of the site is perfect.

Its easy to want to try and improve something, but not always is it quite needed.

But one day it will be there.

Cheers.

 

[Behemoth60]

Nothing against Peter, but mods work effectively if they aren't online for "sheer entertainment value" ....lol

If one needs a reason other than sheer entertainment value to be a volunteer moderator, then I withdraw my offer! In fact, I would question anyone that has a motive other than entertainment to do a vounteer role like that. It would ensure a fun place where tech could be explored with no alterior motives or agendas other then the enjoyment of all involved. But that's just my opinion.

Alas, my interest in moderation was specific to a dedicated Diesel forum... if this forum is to change in name only, and not seperate the engine tech from the other miscelaneous banter, then I definately don't want that responsibility - I can gaurantee you I don't and won't read very many posts in this forum. Should a dedicated Diesel section every emerge, my offer will stand, assuming Woody can trust someone to moderate who's only motive is entertainment.

However, a forum name change as a result of my initial post is, somewhat surprisingly, exactly what I thought should happen, although, sadly, my pitch fork and torch will go unused. Heck, I didn't even need to be a moderator to effect change. power to the people.

Peter Straub