Axle swap considerations

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I would not put a D44 in my worst enemy’s rig. If they planned on running anything more than to the grocery store 🤦🏻‍♂️. Here is why 🤗. That thing snapped like hot butter and when they do they take out the ball joints. But hey you do what you want 😎

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I remember that thing didn't even make noise. Just twisted apart and broke like it was soft. Of course I broke a hub same spot this year. No more of that next year...
 
I remember that thing didn't even make noise. Just twisted apart and broke like it was soft. Of course I broke a hub same spot this year. No more of that next year...
I’ll be watching to see how the diff swap goes on the 60.
 
I would not put a D44 in my worst enemy’s rig. If they planned on running anything more than to the grocery store 🤦🏻‍♂️. Here is why 🤗. That thing snapped like hot butter and when they do they take out the ball joints. But hey you do what you want 😎

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Fair enough, I've never wheel a 44 hard, just put a few in for tight spots, but they were a prorock 44s.
 
It’s funny, I make that statement about no one parting out an ‘80 around here and stumble across a guy who seems to be parting out a grey market RHD ‘80. Ad was for a manual 5spd, but mentioned he had axles as well. He wants $1500 w/o the locking 3rds- I’d be going a different locker anyway.

Got me thinking about a RuffStuff 9.5 housing. I could cut the knuckles off the ‘80 axle. Seems like a lot for axles without 3rds. I’ll think about it.
 
It’s funny, I make that statement about no one parting out an ‘80 around here and stumble across a guy who seems to be parting out a grey market RHD ‘80. Ad was for a manual 5spd, but mentioned he had axles as well. He wants $1500 w/o the locking 3rds- I’d be going a different locker anyway.

Got me thinking about a RuffStuff 9.5 housing. I could cut the knuckles off the ‘80 axle. Seems like a lot for axles without 3rds. I’ll think about it.
Seems a bit high to me.
Especially since the front is only good for a swap.
It’s not a direct replacement for a LHD as the panhard mount is on the wrong side.
Keep looking there out there.
I picked up a complete set front & rear with open diffs for $700 in really good shape.
 
You can cut the balls off your stock axles and add extension sleeves to both sides from 4plus products. You will gain about 5" of width. You could also install 80 balls at the same time. I beli6sone companies sell them. Or weld on dana 60 C's
This.... I am sure he still has sleeves. He just ran another batch of them. I bought 6 for some reason????? I end up buying stuff that is hard to get when it is available. Kind of like a rainy day fund. Several vendors sell the 80 balls.
 
You can cut the balls off your stock axles and add extension sleeves to both sides from 4plus products. You will gain about 5" of width. You could also install 80 balls at the same time. I beli6sone companies sell them. Or weld on dana 60 C's
I’ve considered the sleeves. For my case, I believe, I have ball and claw axles. I won’t know until I start tearing in to them, but it’s a ‘66 with drums. I could be mistaken, but I think that means the ball isn’t desirable either. The advantage of getting the 80 front axle is just the knuckle balls and out hardware. Possibly the shafts until I go chromoly.

I’m having trouble finding a shop that sells their own 80 balls. I think I read that TrailTailor is closing shop, but I may have misunderstood the post. Diamond only sells them attached to their axles and I’m leery of that process given the reviews. RuffStuff seems hit or miss on hellfire stuff being in stock. TrailGear does have them; anyone have a review?
 
Mine came from Diamond. Calling and not being in a hurry helps. Same with my Hellfire knuckle stuff. Called and waited. Not an ideal situation, but building is rarely immediate anyways
Are you selling your 9.5 front fabricated axle when the ford unit goes in?
 
I got lucky and found a front axle minus the third and FF rear from one 80 at a pull and save and a complete SF rear from another. Traded the ABS knuckles for a set of non-abs with a guy that was converting to slee high steer.

Going to a fabricated housing and aftermarket knuckle balls means you have to either buy the rest of the axle parts (spindles, hubs, brakes etc) new or find a donor axle. The cost makes that a lot less attractive than the junkyard axles. At that point I would consider going straight to 05+ super duty axles or running super duty outers on a fabbed housing. The SD axles are super common and easy to get for cheap.
 
I'm about 7 mo out on my diamond axle order and no shipping yet. He's extra slow right now.
 


Not mine $500
 
Glad I found this thread, great info here!

I'm planning on SAS swapping my 3rd gen and I'm on the hunt for a driver drop axl, to keep my Eco crawler duals.
Im not interested in tons, I'm considering a Waggy 44 or flipping an 80 series front and sticking with 35s or maybe going 37 max. I mostly crawl but need highway road manners.

Not looking to hijack, just saying hi and why I'm here; my other rig is an 80.
 
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