ASFIR 4x4 Skid Plates
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Thanks! total time about 5 hours. I bet we can do yours in 3.5..
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- should have just resolved early on that nothing was going to line up. Drilling everything bigger right at the start would have shaved a lot of time off the install, and made it far less physical. Every piece went on and off at least 3 times, instead of once.
- Not one of the access holes for maintenance lines up. I have a nice view of the u-joint back by the T-Case, but I'm not draining the case through there. So I'll be removing that next time I do that (just did it, so good for a few years), and I'll be removing the big belly plate next time I change the oil (just did it, so good for 6 months). I'm also a 4 qt. atf guy, so removing the belly plate gives access to both drains- and the front skid plate ends just before the oil pan drain, so it can actually stay on presuming there's room on the side to access the filter, which there appears to be.
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Super nice write up Tim!
Can't wait for your help with mine, ordering Monday from Christo!
Maybe you can come by around noon one day and we can hammer it out and then I can fix you and the family pizza for dinner, as a thank you??
Can't wait for your help with mine, ordering Monday from Christo!
Maybe you can come by around noon one day and we can hammer it out and then I can fix you and the family pizza for dinner, as a thank you??
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Sounds good, I've got a plan for some additional rear skids to go next to the t-case, I'll get you one. You too, Chris.
The interface between the transfer case skid and belly plate is in the wrong position. It should have lined up on the cross member. The transfer case skid should be longer and the belly plate shorter. You should also notch the side flanges so it sits flush against the cross member.
For now I pulled them off the special and will also put a disclaimer on the site. If anyone still wants the special deal on these, we will still do it. We are working with Asfir to get this sorted out, but it is not going to be fast. What is more amazing is that 4WD owner magazine did an install and said it was OK. I did not see the article, so I am not sure if the modifications were even mentioned. Asfir went by their info that all was ok for a gas truck.
For now I pulled them off the special and will also put a disclaimer on the site. If anyone still wants the special deal on these, we will still do it. We are working with Asfir to get this sorted out, but it is not going to be fast. What is more amazing is that 4WD owner magazine did an install and said it was OK. I did not see the article, so I am not sure if the modifications were even mentioned. Asfir went by their info that all was ok for a gas truck.
How weight do the Al skids save over steel?
Topmounter said:
I'm curious as to the weight as well... I ordered a set of Bud Built Skids for my 05 4Runner and there supposed to weigh around 180lb's.
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Adventure Copan said:
Very similar weight to the Slee kit. The Asfir kit is closer to 90 pounds, so about half. The stock stuff you take off is maybe 30 pounds, so +60 when all is said and done, compared to +150
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I have the 4WD article and they mention install issues pertaining to mounting up the front plate with the blueberry bumper (cutting required) on the front lip. Also mounting holes required some elongation on the front plate as well as the transfer case plate.sleeoffroad said:
No cutting required for a stock bumper but mounting hole adjustments are required for all gas LC's
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sleeoffroad said:
I don't see a benefit to cutting down the belly plate, and I can't exactly make the transfer case skid longer... I do see a reason to notch the side flanges just to get rid of that gap... save that for the day I bolt it to the cross member. Are the plates still supposed to overlap? Or is it supposed to be a butt joint at the cross member? it actually seems pretty solid now, with the 4" overlap, I could see drilling another couple holes through both for another pair of bolts.
Is any of the length issue in question related to not yet having an aftermarket bumper? Or is it more of a matter of not lining up on the frame.
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None of the issues are related to bumpers in the front. They are all because of differences in diesel vs gas plates.
I would however drill the belly plate and bolt it to the cross member and not have tit "float" below it. It will just end up rattling. Based on how it first I would probably leave it like Tim suggested and not cut it.
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I knew you'd come around..
hey one last question for clarification: The long bolt in the center of the front skid plate, the bolt that comes with the Asfir kit is a M8. But the bolt I took out of there is a M10.. the insert that it bolts to appears to be newer, and different from the rest of the truck mounting points- is that something your shop put in there when they did the diff drop? Do you do that on all of them? Will these other guys need to bet 100mm M8 bolts, or M10?
I knew you'd come around..
That is a M10 nutsert we inserted since the threads in your M8 original hole was boogered up. So M8 would be the correct bolt for that location if it was stock.
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Cool, I went back and made that edit, thanks!
That was the warm-up. the middle cross member was also "just off" by about the same margin. It also needed to be shimmed to clear the U-bolts of my MetalTech sliders. There's really no way around this: either get wider u-bolts and modify the slider feet, or weld the sliders on, or shim down the cross member. I chose the latter.
After wallering out (yes, that's a technical term) the 4 mounting holes, I was finally able to get this to bolt up- used some spacers I had around on the back holes, and ended up re-using the front skid plate spacers from the stock front skid, since the new front one doesn't have those side ears I had 2 extra. Plus tilting the cross member "back" just a little made it easier to get the bolts to start when poked through the skid plate.. that was 2 hours of messing around condensed into about 1 minute...
I'm assuming this is the middle leg on our slider that you had to do the shimming? Looks like in my effort to properly space the legs out for weight distribution the middle leg is right in the way for both Slee and Asfir's skid plate system.
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Correct LT, the ideal spot for that middle leg IMO would be about 3" back, so the U-bolt is right against the factory cross member. That would allow the middle cross member of the Asfir kit to bolt on just in front of it, plus give me the happy feeling that the load from the slider is being transferred more directly to the frame of the vehicle.
I'm not sure it's worth a redesign though, as it would only benefit the Asfir and not the Slee. And so far the target market for these skids is 3 people in Colorado, and I'm probably installing the other two...
Let me know if you guys want to see more pictures of anything. And hey if you do go back to the drawing board, I do have a request: please whack off the top 1/2" of material from the feet on the front two mounting points- they keep hitting the bottom of the body of the truck, and the U-bolts don't need the backing plate up that high. I had the sliders installed lower at first and it was fine, but they must have worked themselves up again and are hitting again, which sounds like a bunch of ice is packed down there. I can put up some pictures when I drop the sliders and grind those down..
Hey Guys -
I'm going way back to add an update to this thread. I just installed these Asfir skid plates on my Hundy. They're great and they actually saved me from a rock I didn't see out in Death Valley this past week.
I ordered them directly from Israel. The company was fantastic to work with. Everything was taken care of online using their global website or via email. Shipping was not bad at all and their prices are reasonable. TOYOTA Land Cruiser 100 2006 - Skid Plates
It was kinda funny because I had read about them here on Mud but nobody in the US supplies them so I gave up on them. Then a buddy rolled up with them on his Isuzu Trooper. I asked him and he said he got them straight from Israel, straight off their web site. But the web site didn't list the plates for the 100. So I emailed Asfir directly and they said they had them and weren't sure why they weren't listed on the web page. They updated the page and I ordered them.
They were very up front about the fact that they are designed off the diesel version and would NOT directly fit my truck. I bought them anyway after reading this thread. I followed the write up above (Thanks Tim!) and there they are. It definitely took some time to get them fitted. But I'm happy with them. Especially since they now have a nice dent.
Anyway, I thought I'd update the thread in case anyone wants to keep the weight down with all aluminum plates.
(ooops... Yeah, not sure how I missed that one. But I had no idea what I'd just run over.)
I'm going way back to add an update to this thread. I just installed these Asfir skid plates on my Hundy. They're great and they actually saved me from a rock I didn't see out in Death Valley this past week.
I ordered them directly from Israel. The company was fantastic to work with. Everything was taken care of online using their global website or via email. Shipping was not bad at all and their prices are reasonable. TOYOTA Land Cruiser 100 2006 - Skid Plates
It was kinda funny because I had read about them here on Mud but nobody in the US supplies them so I gave up on them. Then a buddy rolled up with them on his Isuzu Trooper. I asked him and he said he got them straight from Israel, straight off their web site. But the web site didn't list the plates for the 100. So I emailed Asfir directly and they said they had them and weren't sure why they weren't listed on the web page. They updated the page and I ordered them.
They were very up front about the fact that they are designed off the diesel version and would NOT directly fit my truck. I bought them anyway after reading this thread. I followed the write up above (Thanks Tim!) and there they are. It definitely took some time to get them fitted. But I'm happy with them. Especially since they now have a nice dent.
Anyway, I thought I'd update the thread in case anyone wants to keep the weight down with all aluminum plates.
(ooops... Yeah, not sure how I missed that one. But I had no idea what I'd just run over.)
wow, any other pictures?
