V10 LX OT! Yeah that will be marked up so much.
Are you going to buy a LX700h OT?
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We're in the market to replace my wife's 2014 Dodge Durango as it continues to fall apart and cost us a lot in repairs. We're highly considering either the LX600 F-Sport or the LX700h OT(no third row). We need the extra cargo space for road trips with two kids and a 60# dog. Ideally we'd like something with a little more interior space between the first and second rows but all of those SUV options(yukon/expedition/wagoneer etc.) seem like they're too long/wide to fit in our garage next to my daily driver 200 Series. She likes the looks of the F-Sport better and the fold flat third row is a nicer integration than the third row in the 700h. If we go OT we'd definitely try to find one without the third row. If we could ever find an OT locally for her to look at in person then we'll finally, hopefully, be able to make a decision which way to go.
I agree getting rid of the tailgate is blasphemous, but I was under the impression the new 300 series has the same rear as the lx600/700h. Right? This coupled with the second row issues (non-sliding and center doesn't open to the back for the dog to climb through) makes my 700h not a hands down upgrade from my 200. Granted, the 200 is my favorite vehicle I've ever owned so theres that..
I was woefully unimpressed with the LX 600/700H interior compared to the outgoing LX 570. The 570 feels like oldschool luxury which you expect from a Lexus, while the new gen Lexus products just don’t scratch that itch.
Why would anyone buy a new 700H at nearly double the price compared to a lightly used 570. For what? 2-3 mpg improvement with a questionable motor and a factory front and rear locker which doesn’t have much use due to the giant chin on the bumper.
Then they took away the smooth V8, split tailgate, reduced the interior space, reduced the gas tank a measly 17.9 gallons, and gave the car constant beeping nanny’s that you can’t permanently turn off.
They lost the plot in these new generation products.
All the while, Nissan stepped up their game and made the new Armada feel like a luxurious car at a price point that’s hard to beat if you really need a new car.
Why would anyone buy a new 700H at nearly double the price compared to a lightly used 570. For what? 2-3 mpg improvement with a questionable motor and a factory front and rear locker which doesn’t have much use due to the giant chin on the bumper.
Then they took away the smooth V8, split tailgate, reduced the interior space, reduced the gas tank a measly 17.9 gallons, and gave the car constant beeping nanny’s that you can’t permanently turn off.
They lost the plot in these new generation products.
All the while, Nissan stepped up their game and made the new Armada feel like a luxurious car at a price point that’s hard to beat if you really need a new car.
A few counterpoints.
- I dunno, my 700 feels like a big leap up in luxury over my '14? *shrug* different strokes.
- My GIANT CHIN did just fine on Fins and Things, Wipeout Hill, and Top of the World. It is a big bumper though, but about the same as the late model LX.
- Tank is a little small, but I constant out range my 200. From Denver to Moab I managed 19.5MPG, on 35" tires. All nannies can be turned off, PCS turns on with each start but that's the same with the late model 200.
- Fair on the loss of the v8 and tailgate. I loathe the hatch, but not enough to keep me from enjoying the way it drives and offroads.
Lockers in action:
I wonder how this question would be answered if the 300 Land Cruiser GR was available stateside and the question was "Are you going to buy a new LC GR Sport?" I mean, I think there is still some hate against the LXOT, just because it is not the LC. I am myself guilty of some hate against the big chin for example, but today I am a convert after I saw what the AHC+bigger tires can do by lifting the car to a point that the approach angle is not that different from a stock 200 (even better in some cases). Also, once you slap a front license plate there, it tones down the size of the grill IMO.
We all mourn the death of the tailgate though.
We all mourn the death of the tailgate though.
I wonder how this question would be answered if the 300 Land Cruiser GR was available stateside and the question was "Are you going to buy a new LC GR Sport?" I mean, I think there is still some hate against the LXOT, just because it is not the LC. I am myself guilty of some hate against the big chin for example, but today I am a convert after I saw what the AHC+bigger tires can do by lifting the car to a point that the approach angle is not that different from a stock 200 (even better in some cases). Also, once you slap a front license plate there, it tones down the size of the grill IMO.
We all mourn the death of the tailgate though.
If the LC300 GR Sport was selling for $120k+ then probably not no because that's more vehicle then I can afford. Same reason I didn't buy the LX700h OT or a G500 and went with a used 200.
But I'd be excited to buy any of the 300 series models if money was no object. They objectively have more features (except the tailgate, which sucks as noted), they are brand new and under warranty and I think the styling is really good (subjective).
Nah. It is a POS. Too cramped inside. Lol
Sure, that LX700 is badass. No doubt about it. It also has probably $15K+ of extras on it and those 37s make it significantly louder going down the road. If that is a Dissent build which that bumper seems like, my $15K is probably the employee price and then some, haha.
If you're that far over $120K (or whatever this is), why not just get a Raptor R? There's certainly a point where reliability is less of a concern as your income (and piece of mind) goes up. At least for the average American. The ones worried about reliability and go for a brand new LX over other options is slim (always has been). The reliability issues with the new V6 only make things worse.
If you're that far over $120K (or whatever this is), why not just get a Raptor R? There's certainly a point where reliability is less of a concern as your income (and piece of mind) goes up. At least for the average American. The ones worried about reliability and go for a brand new LX over other options is slim (always has been). The reliability issues with the new V6 only make things worse.
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Yeah more like 80k build for that dissent truck
Yeah more like 80k build for that dissent truck
Can’t put a price on drip.
Yep. Cramped. Family hates it. Engine sucks. Interior comfort terrible. We're all smiling in spite of how bad it is.
Did you see their 200 in portals? It is the same story. Is it cool as hell? Yeah. Do you actually need all that to tackle and conquer 90% of trails we all do here? Absolutely not. The OT is out of the box ready to go - maybe you only need sliders and bigger tires - to almost anything. The adjusted price is on par with the brand new 200s that rolled out of the showroom five to ten years ago and is that more capable with the OT pack. It is kind of what we wonder in the past how it would be a 200 TRD Pro. So, do you need to spend $80k on top of the $115k? Unless you are planning rubicon, no way.
I agree the LX has a weird niche. If you are looking for something that rarely goes off road the GLS/Land Rover/X7 are all much better choices. Better ride, better cabin tech, prettier, etc.
For me the LX700h OT 2-row checked all the boxes and I'm glad Toyota still brings it in for the weirdos.
For me the LX700h OT 2-row checked all the boxes and I'm glad Toyota still brings it in for the weirdos.
I'm actually having the opposite problem. I want to get another LX overtrail in Australia when the engine gets sorted out, but they only sell a 600/500 diesel overtrail with 2 rows. That means I can't use it for driving 3 generations around, and you don't get the low end hybrid torque for crawling. All the other off-road trims from other brands are 2 row as well - I think the weirdos are the usa market with a 3 row off-road trim!
I might just have to eat it and get a regular 700h, swap out the wheels, and rely on atrac and ahc...
Yeah but there’s also something cool about driving a lesser-owned car.
The amount of Range Rovers I see everyday in South Florida is insane. Ditto G Wagons and Defenders. X7s and Q8s everywhere.
I see a new LX once in a blue moon and I’m immediately interested and know the driver is a cool human being.
Not ashamed to say it’s a major reason that I bought a 200. It’s fun being a trailblazer.
Yep, but that's happening across the board. Manufacturers realised that they can get away with making everything plastic and putting in LEDs everywhere, so that's what they did.
The new S class is a creaky, plasticky mess. This LX feels like a 2010s ES, and the TX/new ES feels like a 2010s Hyundai.
But hey, as much as I want semi aniline leather and burl wood inlays, at least a 2010 ES is solid.