Are you going to buy a LX700h OT?

[snowman69]

Reminder ---- From the Nov25 NHTSA Detailed Recall Report

"For the Tahara plant, data from the recovered engines,
study about the bearing robustness, and the field performance data indicate that an increased
level of this type of debris is present in engines produced between recall 24V-381 and the
implementation of the improvement to the #1 main bearing.
Thus, Toyota has decided to conduct a voluntary safety recall campaign for the above-described
vehicle production period. Engines produced in the Alabama plant for vehicles after this
period but before the implementation of an improved #1 main bearing remain under
investigation."

I want to highlight that Toyota specifically called out the potential for additional recalls of the Tundra (this new update is Tundra only). The current press release (May26) explicitly says that:

"Engines produced after those included in this recall were manufactured with an improved #1 main bearing to help resist certain debris that might remain."

I obviously have zero inside knowledge but Toyota has painted a very specific picture that the "improved #1 main bearing" mitigates or lowers the risk of damage to a substantially lower level. It will be borderline criminal for them to be completely lying at this point. I feel good about the 2025 and 2026 LX's. I like the Truck, I like the engine.

 

[henke]

I obviously have zero inside knowledge but Toyota has painted a very specific picture that the "improved #1 main bearing" mitigates or lowers the risk of damage to a substantially lower level. It will be borderline criminal for them to be completely lying at this point. I feel good about the 2025 and 2026 LX's. I like the Truck, I like the engine.

If it fixes the problem, then the engines produced after the improved #1 bearing was implemented would not be under recall. They are now under the latest recall. Therefore, the bearing improvement did not fix the issue.

 

[snowman69]

If it fixes the problem, then the engines produced after the improved #1 bearing was implemented would not be under recall. They are now under the latest recall. Therefore, the bearing improvement did not fix the issue.

This is the current press release. It says these are pre-improved bearing.

"The engines involved in this new recall were produced using additional controls for removing manufacturing debris. We have found that, even after these additional controls, the remaining debris could be sufficient to cause damage to the #1 main bearing and lead to this issue. Engines produced after those included in this recall were manufactured with an improved #1 main bearing to help resist certain debris that might remain."

 

[Docyota]

75k combined miles in two modern 300 series LX's. Haven't had a single problem except when I beat it up and break stuff.

can't you all at least keep this stuff in the recall thread?

 

[henke]

This is the current press release. It says these are pre-improved bearing.

"The engines involved in this new recall were produced using additional controls for removing manufacturing debris. We have found that, even after these additional controls, the remaining debris could be sufficient to cause damage to the #1 main bearing and lead to this issue. Engines produced after those included in this recall were manufactured with an improved #1 main bearing to help resist certain debris that might remain."

Oh, I totally thought the bearing was 1st half of 2024... Guess not.

Or I guess, to be fair they don't say if engines produced before this recall period didn't have the improved bearing...

Edit: Now I remember, TCCN who I think is pretty reliable had an April 2024 date for new bearing part numbers for the v35a. It's possible that they rolled out this part for Tahara first and not Alabama (that was the impression I got from the November recall), so if the cut off date really is for when new bearings were implemented, it would be lx and gx up to April (no change from before) and tundra up to August in this new recall.

 

[MRego]

Right on cue

Toyota Recalls Certain 2024 Toyota Tundra Vehicles - Toyota USA Newsroom

PLANO, Texas (May 20, 2026) — Toyota is conducting a safety recall involving certain model year 2024 Toyota Tundra non-hybrid vehicles in North America and Latin America countries. Approximately 44,000 vehicles are involved in this recall in the U.S. There is […]

pressroom.toyota.com

Same problem, moved up recall period from April 2024 to August 2024. This is significant because the fix for the first recall was issued in May 2024, so this is the first time Toyota officially and clearly stated their fix for the first recall didn't work.

As I said “waiting for the recall on the hybrid 2025s and up”. Couldn’t see anything related to those in the news you posted. More specifically LXs hybrids 2025 and up.

 

[henke]

75k combined miles in two modern 300 series LX's. Haven't had a single problem except when I beat it up and break stuff.

can't you all at least keep this stuff in the recall thread?

I think discussing recalls which were supposed to have fixed the problem 2 years ago and are slowly creeping towards 2025 models is pretty relevant to a "would you buy this car" discussion.

 

[henke]

As I said “waiting for the recall on the hybrid 2025s and up”. Couldn’t see anything related to those in the news you posted. More specifically LXs hybrids 2025 and up.

As previously discussed, hybrids are not in the recall because they can supposedly limp to the side of the road, not because they don't have the problem. There are just as many hybrid tundras, proportionally to sales numbers, which have failed in this way according to the community survey.

So any recall affecting non hybrids will also mean hybrids are afflicted by the same problem, we just don't get a free engine.

 

[Docyota]

I think discussing recalls which were supposed to have fixed the problem 2 years ago and are slowly creeping towards 2025 models is pretty relevant to a "would you buy this car" discussion.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

 

[henke]

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Just be glad you're not in the tundra forum. Every single thread devolves to 2nd gen owners vs "turd gen" owners yelling at each other about the recall by 5 pages tops.

 

[MRego]

As previously discussed, hybrids are not in the recall because they can supposedly limp to the side of the road, not because they don't have the problem. There are just as many hybrid tundras, proportionally to sales numbers, which have failed in this way according to the community survey.

So any recall affecting non hybrids will also mean hybrids are afflicted by the same problem, we just don't get a free engine.

I don’t really buy this explanation, but ok. Cool. 2025s non hybrids then. Let us know when those are recalled.

If you are in the tundra forums…just exit from there man. It is not worth it all the negativity.

 

[henke]

I don’t really buy this explanation, but ok. Cool. 2025s non hybrids then. Let us know when those are recalled.

If you are in the tundra forums…just exit from there man. It is not worth it all the negativity.

If they're gonna recall the 25s, they'll wait until they're all sold out so that they don't have to issue stop sales. The report lists the estimated stop sale numbers for both 2023 and 2024 MY as ~20. Toyota really did a great job of getting defective trucks into the customers' hands.

There are a lot worse places than the tundra forums. Most recently trying to work with the state government...still recovering from that one.

 

[snowman69]

Oh, I totally thought the bearing was 1st half of 2024... Guess not.

Or I guess, to be fair they don't say if engines produced before this recall period didn't have the improved bearing...

Edit: Now I remember, TCCN who I think is pretty reliable had an April 2024 date for new bearing part numbers for the v35a. It's possible that they rolled out this part for Tahara first and not Alabama (that was the impression I got from the November recall), so if the cut off date really is for when new bearings were implemented, it would be lx and gx up to April (no change from before) and tundra up to August in this new recall.

From all available info you are correct.

For the Doc -this doesn't change my opinion. Everyone should buy the 700hOT

 

[henke]

Oh, someone on the tundra forums just said famous insider Ryan gregg/sudobash said that June 2026 is when they're going to implement the next set of improvements for the v35a. The s*** I wade through for you guys to bring you info.

I agree with everyone who says that there really is nothing like a 700h. The only thing better than a 700h is a 700h without any potential engine issues. Maybe wait for 2027.

 

[snowman69]

Oh, someone on the tundra forums just said famous insider Ryan gregg/sudobash said that June 2026 is when they're going to implement the next set of improvements for the v35a. The s*** I wade through for you guys to bring you info.

I agree with everyone who says that there really is nothing like a 700h. The only thing better than a 700h is a 700h without any potential engine issues. Maybe wait for 2027.

"Famous insider Ryan Gregg" in his own mind

Henke - Thanks for wading through that forum, I try but it's brutal.

 

[MRego]

The only thing better than a 700h is a 700h without any potential engine issues.

IMO, there is really no reason to wait. Anything 2025 and up is fixed with the improved bearings - like Toyota said in the notices.

If I am wrong, you have a 6 year warranty to cover you and if you past the 70k miles limit just buy an extended warranty - which most buy anyway - and push an additional IDK 4 years or so - 10 years later and you have no issues, I would say you are in the clear.

o if the cut off date really is for when new bearings were implemented, it would be lx and gx up to April (no change from before) and tundra up to August in this new recall

Yep. You are right. Those are the dates. These notices are drafted by lawyers and there is no way they are not carefully reviewed for consistency.

 

[CruiseLander]

Oh, someone on the tundra forums just said famous insider Ryan gregg/sudobash said that June 2026 is when they're going to implement the next set of improvements for the v35a. The s*** I wade through for you guys to bring you info.

I agree with everyone who says that there really is nothing like a 700h. The only thing better than a 700h is a 700h without any potential engine issues. Maybe wait for 2027.

Thanks for wading. Are we expecting an announcement from Toyota anytime soon?

 

[Noctilucent]

Rumor is Toyota’s preparing an announcement soon. Someone already leaked the promotional artwork… not sure if it’s legit though.

 

[dms]

I would be all over a 600 OT. Call me old fashioned, but I can't warm up to a hybrid.

 

[christsay]

I would be all over a 600 OT. Call me old fashioned, but I can't warm up to a hybrid.

You should drive them back to back. I did the current GX and LX and couldn’t imagine the GX motor motivating the much heavier LX.