For Sale 82 and 81

Location

United States

I have an 82 and 81 truck for sale. 82 has power steering. Problems with 82:
Transmission pops out of first gear if not engaged. Transfer case needs cajoling to shift between 2 wheel and 4 wheel drive. Bed has rust and diamond plate welded over it. Welded in new floor pans.

81 has no problems. Govt truck and is in great condition. Trucks located in Chattanooga,TN. Both trucks run fine and have been driven 45 minute trips with no issues. First pics are of 82.

 

[desert land]

Listen, we are not hear to beat you up or discredit you, however, when you try to sell your trucks on MUD we expect FULL DISCLOSURE with lots of pics and engine data.

Unfortunately American buyers have fallen prey to unscrupulous sellers, and now as a result, buyers are very cautious about buying imports from Costa Rica and other world locations.


Courtesy of Land Cruiser Nation

THE BLOATED LAND CRUISER MARKET

Monday, May 9, 2016


The Land Cruiser Gold Rush has resulted in the FJ40 market becoming increasingly crowded with foreign models, shoddy restorations and outright SCAMS. While there are some nice trucks, I’m seeing a lot of pigs with lipstick and the asking prices make me say “REALLY?”

Many of these trucks have come across the border. FJ43’s, BJ40’s BJ42’s FJ45’s, Troopies and even the Brazilian Bandeirante Land Cruiser clones. All the choices make it increasingly difficult to weed through the herd and find what you’re looking for.

If you have a good eye and know Land Cruisers, you will spot many trucks that are not even complete. I have to wonder when I see a $50,000 asking price and the seller didn’t even bother to put all the parts back on the truck. I often see missing emblems, reflectors, bumperettes and even wipers! WTF? Then there is the widely varied quality of work. If you see door limiters and window cranks and glove box doors that have just been blown over with the same color paint as everything else, do yourself a favor and RUN!

I’m not sure how many people are buying vintage Land Cruisers but it’s clear there are a WHOLE bunch of sellers! If you search for Land Cruisers made between 1960 to 1983 on eBay you will see over 50 vehicles to choose from. Hemming's currently has another 46 trucks offered and if you can manage to search ALL of Craigslist, you will find 100 more! There are many speculators in the market and even the unscrupulous types that just swipe the photos from legitimate sellers and put up there own ads for a vehicles they don’t own and cannot deliver. These are the “to good to be true” offerings and if you see one, don’t be fooled.

For me and LCN, It’s business as usual. I concentrate on USA trucks produced between 1978 and 1983 and that’s been the focus since 1995. I look at hundreds each month hoping to find something worth owning and I find myself yearning for the “good old days” when most people just thought an FJ40 was some kind of weird Mail Jeep. Ah, but those days are gone. I guess we’ll just have to wait for the dust to settle and hopefully we can get back to a stable market that is more informed and less opportunistic. In the meantime, do your homework and have a great summer!

Spot on.. Mike, Glad there are good guys like you in mudd community! I have learned a lot from your threads, can tell you care and want to help. Thanks for what you do!!

 

[ja3aliy]

Listen, we are not hear to beat you up or discredit you, however, when you try to sell your trucks on MUD we expect FULL DISCLOSURE with lots of pics and engine data.

Unfortunately Americans buyers have fallen prey to unscrupulous sellers, and now as a result, buyers are very cautious about buying imports from Costa Rica and other world locations.


Courtesy of Land Cruiser Nation

THE BLOATED LAND CRUISER MARKET

Monday, May 9, 2016


The Land Cruiser Gold Rush has resulted in the FJ40 market becoming increasingly crowded with foreign models, shoddy restorations and outright SCAMS. While there are some nice trucks, I’m seeing a lot of pigs with lipstick and the asking prices make me say “REALLY?”

Many of these trucks have come across the border. FJ43’s, BJ40’s BJ42’s FJ45’s, Troopies and even the Brazilian Bandeirante Land Cruiser clones. All the choices make it increasingly difficult to weed through the herd and find what you’re looking for.

If you have a good eye and know Land Cruisers, you will spot many trucks that are not even complete. I have to wonder when I see a $50,000 asking price and the seller didn’t even bother to put all the parts back on the truck. I often see missing emblems, reflectors, bumperettes and even wipers! WTF? Then there is the widely varied quality of work. If you see door limiters and window cranks and glove box doors that have just been blown over with the same color paint as everything else, do yourself a favor and RUN!

I’m not sure how many people are buying vintage Land Cruisers but it’s clear there are a WHOLE bunch of sellers! If you search for Land Cruisers made between 1960 to 1983 on eBay you will see over 50 vehicles to choose from. Hemming's currently has another 46 trucks offered and if you can manage to search ALL of Craigslist, you will find 100 more! There are many speculators in the market and even the unscrupulous types that just swipe the photos from legitimate sellers and put up there own ads for a vehicles they don’t own and cannot deliver. These are the “to good to be true” offerings and if you see one, don’t be fooled.

For me and LCN, It’s business as usual. I concentrate on USA trucks produced between 1978 and 1983 and that’s been the focus since 1995. I look at hundreds each month hoping to find something worth owning and I find myself yearning for the “good old days” when most people just thought an FJ40 was some kind of weird Mail Jeep. Ah, but those days are gone. I guess we’ll just have to wait for the dust to settle and hopefully we can get back to a stable market that is more informed and less opportunistic. In the meantime, do your homework and have a great summer!

Ha listen man if you don't get a truck with original paint, you don't know everything but what you see. Engine data, you mean like compression and etc. I don't even know what the original compression specs should be and I can't provide that. What I can do is tell you what I know and I am not the first owner on these trucks. And what I really would like is for someone to come look at the truck and determine for himself what is right or wrong with the truck. He might find something I didn't know or realize. We are talking about 30 year old trucks. Full disclosure means what exactly if you are not the first owner and it is not like there is a Saudi carfax. I am not a mechanic or a body man and so I don't know everything. I can't even tell you the true mileage.

Bring your magnet and tools and we can do OUR best to figure it out. I don't want to rip off anyone and we can sign some paper work where you can return the truck if a major issue comes up. And if nobody wants the trucks that is fine. A good sale is where both parties are satisfied. I bought the 81 with original paint and it looked great for original paint. I had it painted and I wasn't present for the paint job and so I can't give full disclosure on what they did. I can tell you what I paid for and asked them to do and some of what I asked for didn't get done right so I had to redo it. I know less about the 82. I never saw it with original paint.

So unless you have pictures of someone completely disassembling and restoring a truck or a truck with original paint and no body work at all, what is everyone giving me grief about. I haven't seen the latter and the completely restored ones go for a lot more.

 

[78fj40mg]

Spot on.. Mike, Glad there are good guys like you in mudd community! I have learned a lot from your threads, can tell you care and want to help. Thanks for what you do!!

Thank you!

 

[ja3aliy]

Trucks are no longer for sale.

 

[78fj40mg]

Ha listen man if you don't get a truck with original paint, you don't know everything but what you see. Engine data, you mean like compression and etc. I don't even know what the original compression specs should be and I can't provide that. What I can do is tell you what I know and I am not the first owner on these trucks. And what I really would like is for someone to come look at the truck and determine for himself what is right or wrong with the truck. He might find something I didn't know or realize. We are talking about 30 year old trucks. Full disclosure means what exactly if you are not the first owner and it is not like there is a Saudi carfax. I am not a mechanic or a body man and so I don't know everything. I can't even tell you the true mileage.

Bring your magnet and tools and we can do OUR best to figure it out. I don't want to rip off anyone and we can sign some paper work where you can return the truck if a major issue comes up. And if nobody wants the trucks that is fine. A good sale is where both parties are satisfied. I bought the 81 with original paint and it looked great for original paint. I had it painted and I wasn't present for the paint job and so I can't give full disclosure on what they did. I can tell you what I paid for and asked them to do and some of what I asked for didn't get done right so I had to redo it. I know less about the 82. I never saw it with original paint.

So unless you have pictures of someone completely disassembling and restoring a truck or a truck with original paint and no body work at all, what is everyone giving me grief about. I haven't seen the latter and the completely restored ones go for a lot more.

I believe there are many potential buyers that would love to see your trucks, including myself, however, in many cases it's not geographically feasible, in my particular case I don't like flying anymore, a simple vehicle inspection could cost several thousand dollars between air fare, car rental, food, and lodging. This is why those that are interested in your trucks shy away from flying out to TN. because logistically and financially it doesn't make sense. That is why full disclosure is so important for out of state buyers, so have you provided full disclosure? In my opinion the answer is no. Provide us pics of every inch of the vehicle including the undercarriage, suspension, transmission, transfer case, engine, etc.
I believe your are over-reacting and are also being very defensive over our collective (MUD) constructive criticism. If I were you I'd would ask the forum for a local MUD member that lives near you to come by and look at your trucks and give us a MUD-Fax report, as it would help buyers immensely.

 

[78fj40mg]

Trucks are no longer for sale.

Another options: ebay, or try BAT.

 

[ja3aliy]

I believe there are many potential buyers that would love to see your trucks, including myself, however, in many cases it's not geographically feasible, in my particular case I don't like flying anymore, a simple vehicle inspection could cost several thousand dollars between air fare, car rental, food, and lodging. This is why those that are interested in your trucks shy away from flying out to TN. because logistically and financially it doesn't make sense. That is why full disclosure is so important for out of state buyers, so have you provided full disclosure? In my opinion the answer is no. Provide us pics of every inch of the vehicle including the undercarriage, suspension, transmission, transfer case, engine, etc.
I believe your are over-reacting and are also being very defensive over our collective (MUD) constructive criticism. If I were you I'd would ask the forum for a local MUD member that lives near you to come by and look at your trucks and give us a MUD-Fax report, as it would help buyers immensely.

Haha. Sensitive. Are you kidding. Listen man I just wanted the conversation about how ***** my trucks are or how I am trying to con someone to end. And I have been hearing sh*t about my trucks nonstop. And I would rather not sell them here than have to hear this. No hard feelings.

 

[ja3aliy]

I believe there are many potential buyers that would love to see your trucks, including myself, however, in many cases it's not geographically feasible, in my particular case I don't like flying anymore, a simple vehicle inspection could cost several thousand dollars between air fare, car rental, food, and lodging. This is why those that are interested in your trucks shy away from flying out to TN. because logistically and financially it doesn't make sense. That is why full disclosure is so important for out of state buyers, so have you provided full disclosure? In my opinion the answer is no. Provide us pics of every inch of the vehicle including the undercarriage, suspension, transmission, transfer case, engine, etc.
I believe your are over-reacting and are also being very defensive over our collective (MUD) constructive criticism. If I were you I'd would ask the forum for a local MUD member that lives near you to come by and look at your trucks and give us a MUD-Fax report, as it would help buyers immensely.

Constructive criticism is please post more pics or specific questions. Not this thread.

 

[desert land]

If would take the money and run.

I bet you would!

 

[desert land]

$20k for an truck that may need a transmission or transfercase?!
Sorry, but the OP is f-ING high or arrogant, or both.
Let me guess, the OP is a "body guy", not a "mechanical guy"... That's stupid money for a masked off paint job that still needs work.

What is up with guys sclepping SA s*** boxes hoping for ridiculous payouts?

What's your profit margin on this, 200%?

Profit isn't a 4 letter word, but greed is.

Profit isn't a 4 letter word, but greed is...

Are you serious?

 

[78fj40mg]

Wow! How toxic can one be?
To grenade his own for sale thread.

 

[TCSTARK]

This should be a FAQ on how not to sell a truck.

 

[ja3aliy]

I believe there are many potential buyers that would love to see your trucks, including myself, however, in many cases it's not geographically feasible, in my particular case I don't like flying anymore, a simple vehicle inspection could cost several thousand dollars between air fare, car rental, food, and lodging. This is why those that are interested in your trucks shy away from flying out to TN. because logistically and financially it doesn't make sense. That is why full disclosure is so important for out of state buyers, so have you provided full disclosure? In my opinion the answer is no. Provide us pics of every inch of the vehicle including the undercarriage, suspension, transmission, transfer case, engine, etc.
I believe your are over-reacting and are also being very defensive over our collective (MUD) constructive criticism. If I were you I'd would ask the forum for a local MUD member that lives near you to come by and look at your trucks and give us a MUD-Fax report, as it would help buyers immensely.

Wow! How toxic can one be?
To grenade his own for sale thread.

Haha. Bombs away.

 

[ja3aliy]

This should be a FAQ on how not to sell a truck.

Yeah man. Somehow the two times I have tried to sell my truck on this forum, conversation gets hijacked and I end up getting into stupid arguments. Luckily I don't sell anything for a living.

 

[Stumpalama]

Yeah man. Somehow the two times I have tried to sell my truck on this forum, conversation gets hijacked and I end up getting into stupid arguments. Luckily I don't sell anything for a living.

Perhaps you should take not of the constants in each of you sales attempts: you and your lack of pictures and transparency..

 

[Stumpalama]

Profit isn't a 4 letter word, but greed is...

Are you serious?

Yup... making money on sale is most people's goal, but hoping for a sucker with the intent of getting an exorbitant pay off is greed.
Would you prefer profit isn't a four-letter word but greed is closer?

 

[desert land]

Yup... making money on sale is most people's goal, but hoping for a sucker with the intent of getting an exorbitant pay off is greed.
Would you prefer profit isn't a four-letter word but greed is closer?

Hey, I told the doc before my child was born I was ok as long as the kid has four eyes and ten fingers and toes.. So I know what you mean. Cheers

 

[MANFJ45]

From Colombia with all these dishonest, non skillfull body shops, 36 years abused and overloaded on the farm and just now retired !?!

That year and model is worth there $1,5K US, but as it is a one owner because nobody else never ever wanted to buy it.


I give you $3K US for it, shipped and delivered, but without the FJ Cruiser rims

Keep dreaming my friend.

 

[MANFJ45]

Yeap, all in Colombia are dishonest, unlike the ones here selling these two dogs.
Please!!!!! Think before you write.

 

[Stumpalama]

Hey, I told the doc before my child was born I was ok as long as the kid has four eyes and ten fingers and toes.. So I know what you mean. Cheers

I got that quote from, of all people, a car salesman buddy of mine.
If your kid only had 10 fingers and toes, then they were a 2 full hands or feet short...