79 40, the kids

[60 40]

Where is your parking break lever?

I'm converting to bucket seats and putting the parking break here in order to clear the shifters.

 

[jmkfj60]

Nice rig!

Crazy AC and pimp interior excluded looks really solid, Congratulations. My first vehicle was the 40 I'm rebuilding again after 30 something years using parts from a 60.

If you do eventually install your 2F, four speed and spit case from a 60 without changing the top plate or shift cane your shifters will end up right about here. Probably would not be an issue with the bucket seats you have as long as the drivers are tall.

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Thanks for that, I could probably live with that.

 

[jmkfj60]

Where is your parking break lever?

I'm converting to bucket seats and putting the parking break here in order to clear the shifters.


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I feel like it’s more forward and to the driver side. Here a crappy pic

 

[60 40]

Yours is probably in the stock place, my cruiser is a 69' so had the under dash parking break. My junks custom .

 

[Living in the Past]

So let’s talk about that, it seems like the 327 moved everything forward, because the PO notched a piece out of the heater when it shifts to 1st and 3rd. See picture. I can feel void under the carpet behind the top plate. It will be interesting to see what I find under the carpet.

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Pretty standard to see the transmission and transfer case moved forward on V8 conversions in a FJ40. The four speed in a FJ40 has a cast iron cover. When the FJ60 started 8/80 transmission and sits further forward and shifter is further back on the cover. The top cover on these is cast out of aluminum. The transfer case shifter used the same boss on the transmission case as the 40 to pivot from up to 4/85 in the US. This shifter bends back to be closer to the transmission shifter. Would have avoided cutting the heater and probably used the factory opening for the transmission shifter. Transfer case may not be as closer but still further back. I did find a shift boot for the 70 series shifter that fits the four speed opening up to 10/82 when the boot changed. Transfer boot is leather and should work but may not be as far back as original spot but still further than it original location.

Something else to consider with the 60 series transmission and split transfer case the rear motor that bolts to the back of the transfer case is not a match. Factory the bellhousing had the rear motor mounts. 8/80 that changed to a crossmember similar to the 60 series.

Just things that need to be addressed if your go back to a 2F down the road.

 

[jmkfj60]

Pretty standard to see the transmission and transfer case moved forward on V8 conversions in a FJ40. The four speed in a FJ40 has a cast iron cover. When the FJ60 started 8/80 transmission and sits further forward and shifter is further back on the cover. The top cover on these is cast out of aluminum. The transfer case shifter used the same boss on the transmission case as the 40 to pivot from up to 4/85 in the US. This shifter bends back to be closer to the transmission shifter. Would have avoided cutting the heater and probably used the factory opening for the transmission shifter. Transfer case may not be as closer but still further back. I did find a shift boot for the 70 series shifter that fits the four speed opening up to 10/82 when the boot changed. Transfer boot is leather and should work but may not be as far back as original spot but still further than it original location.

Something else to consider with the 60 series transmission and split transfer case the rear motor that bolts to the back of the transfer case is not a match. Factory the bellhousing had the rear motor mounts. 8/80 that changed to a crossmember similar to the 60 series.
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Just things that need to be addressed if your go back to a 2F down the road.

Great Information, Thank you. I do have the rear crossmember for the 2F, which I’m guessing can be modded to fit.

Let me ask this, How much does the transmission/transfer case floor cover change on the 40. Is a 71 (uncut) compatible with a 79. I’m guessing it changed design when it went from the tree ( Steering column) to the floor. I also assume that the 79 is cut pretty good when they did the change over.

 

[fjc-man]

79 was the start of a different doghouse cover, 78 and earlier were completely different. The whole seating area is way different with the gas tank being moved to under the tub.

 

[pb4ugo]

79 was a major redesign.

 

[jmkfj60]

79 was the start of a different doghouse cover, 78 and earlier were completely different. The whole seating area is way different with the gas tank being moved to under the tub.

Makes sense, I didn’t even think about the fuel tank changing the design after it got removed from the cab.

 

[Living in the Past]

Give you an idea of the differences. Here is the size of the cover on a 73-78 on the left. Earlier in the middle.

The inspect cover 79-82

While this is a later five speed cover is on an 82 tub. Give an idea of how the hump is now part of the tub.

Believe 1/79 Toyota used new manufacturing technology to use thinner metal and maintain the same strength. The hump being part of the tub versus a removable was the price paid. This didn't account on rust or ease of working on the transmission and transfer case. 78 could have made the 60 series changed by removing the seats, gas tank than the cover for complete access. 79 only have a small inspection cover that can be removed.

 

[jmkfj60]

Well, we have brakes. Just installed the brake booster and master cylinder. Still need to update hoses under the hood, and go through the front disk, and rear drums but it stops as it is now.

Also got a little bit of body work done. Driver side rear bumper was really pushed in, and twisted. Was able to work it back out, had to cut, work the piece on the table and weld it back. Not perfect, but better. (Paint was just to cover the bare metal)