'62 FJ40 in the Netherlands

[hdjtachtig]

I think next will be fixing th rear crankshaft seal and gearbox seal. Also want to have the upholstory fixed, hope we can keep the horsehair filling. And have to decide which tires to choose. Not too much choise here. Lately saw this tire but is bias ply
Edit: Size of this tire is N78-15LT

 

[Punani]

Just go with some Rk3's.

There must be a way to get them here

 

[hdjtachtig]

Yeah, just didn't find friends or family yet who who live in maleisia.

 

[Bill McC]

Need a 3speed or transfer case part?

Hello,

I have a 1963 3speed on the tree type transmission with the shifting arms that stick out the side and the transfer case bolted to it. Should you need a part let me know. I am in Minnesota, USA. I have a 4 speed now and in the past no one wanted the 3speed.

Bill

 

[hdjtachtig]

Thanks Bill, I'll keep that in mind.

Paul.

 

[hdjtachtig]

early 3 speed tranny

We have the tranny and transfercase out and almost dismantled. I guess we have the early 3 speed that was only used in 61-62 and part of 63 right?

I'm gonna need some parts. I'll make a list and hope you can help me with partnumbers for bearings, seals etc.

The first and reverse gear is worn a bit. So I could use new first and reverse gears. The gears of the newer 3 speed look alot like these. Also the amount of teeth are correct. Are those interchangable?

If someone can teach me more about these transmission I'll be greatfull.

Thanks.

 

[fjfjfj]

What's up with your 62?

 

[hdjtachtig]

partnumbers

We did completely disassamble the gearbox and tranny. First gear is, as said, quit worn. So need to think about how to fix it. Bill, I'll send you a PM one of these days, would like to know if the first and reverse gears in the tranny you have are OK. Rest of the tranny and transfer case look good. Synchromesh rings are OK. Some bearings are noisy and seals are dried. We think the tranny has been out before: we found some liquid gasket the housing of the input axle seal (part AR in the picture). Probably the input shaft seal has been replaced.

So we need to source seals, bearings and gaskets (or make our own). We are surprised that some bearings are Metric and other (needle) bearings are imperial. I stole some pics from the SOR website so I can tell you what I need. Hope they don't mind (but I think they also stole them of a Toyota parts book.) Most parts are not available at SOR, so it will probably not be easy to find. The ball bearings are metric (6305, 6306, 6307) so that won't be the biggest problem. needle bearings are imperial, that will be harder to find here. A worn shaft can be reproduced (Q), gaskets can be made ourselves, and for the seals we have yet to check but we should be able find those. But it will be the best if we can source the parts with the Original Toyota partnumbers. So,

Question 1: can the newer gears (63 on) be used in this -62 transmission, maybe after some modification? As I understand they have the same amount of teeth but the gears are wider so stronger. In the parts book it looks quite the same. Can anyone tell me more about this???

Question 2: would someone with a 62 partsbook be so kind to look up the partnumbers for me? (John/LITP?) Would of course prefer the 10 digit numbers if possible. It might be a good start to look what is available and what parts might be used in later transmissions.

When I'm ready finding all the parts I'll post the numbers, available crossreferences and sizes in the sticky part nr. thread.

I would want to know the numbers of the following parts:

Figure 60A Transmission
A, C, P, Y, AG, AL, AP, AQ, and/or the gasket set

Figure 60B Transmission gears
I, J, O, S, T, V

Figure 67A transfercase
D, I, J, K, N, R, V, W, AB, AD, AF, AI, AJ, AK, and/or the gasket set.

Figure 67B, transfercase gears
E, P, Q, U, V, AB, AJ, AV, AY


Thank you very much in advance. Paul.

 

[67azcruizr]

I'm in the process of looking up both '61-5 digit and '62-10 part numbers, I'll have them up tonight

 

[nuclearlemon]

interesting to see. i'll be tearing into annies transmission sometime after the caravan for kids run. we've found she pops out of first gear when under load, would like to find out why, also get an occasional weird sound, like a bearing not seated in the race or something....hope i don't find the issues you've found

 

[67azcruizr]

the first set of numbers are 5 digit series with prefix out of '61 catalog, these may be helpful with NOS items. the second set of numbers are the 10 digit out of '62 catalog

I would want to know the numbers of the following parts:

Figure 60A Transmission
A RS20-33133
33142-30010 PACKING

C FJ40-34219
90301-09029 O-RING

P FS10-33162
33122-61010 PACKING

Y FJ40-33203
90310-13001 SEAL, OIL

AG RS-33222
33272-30010 PACKING

AL 2BJ-33163
90430-18012 PACKING

AP FS10-33314
33132-61010 PACKING

AQ FJ20-33301
90311-28003 SEAL

and/or the gasket set



Figure 60B Transmission gears
I RK-33332
90361-06007 ROLLER, NEEDLE

J BRT-6307R
97153-06307 BEARING

O FS10-33451*
33461-69010 GEAR, REVERSE

S FS10-33351
33331-69010 GEAR

T BRT-VS-20/20
90364-20007 BEARING

V FS10-33431
33421-69011


Figure 67A transfercase
D RS-33102
90311-38005 RETAINER COMP.

I FJ40-34121
36122-69410 CAP

J FJ40-33203
90310-13001 SEAL, OIL

K FJ40-34102
36381-69010 SEAL, OIL

N FJ40-34119
36142-69010 PACKING

R FJ40-34197
36141-60020 PACKING

V FJ40-34101
90311-42014 SEAL, OIL

W FJ40-34199
36144-69010 PACKING

AB FJ40-34212
36152-60020 PACKING

AD 2BJ-33163
90430-18012 PACKING

AF FJ40-34152
36145-60010 PACKING

AI FJ40-34125
90330-27010 PLUG

AJ RS-41102
90311-38028 SEAL, OIL

AK RS-41222
37341-30010 COVER, DUST

and/or the gasket set.


Figure 67B, transfercase gears
E RS20-33485
90301-18018 O RING

P FJ40-34124
90301-19026 O RING

Q FJ40-34123
36225-60020 SHAFT

U BRT-25V3332
90364-25005 BEARING COMP.

V BRT-6305
97103-06305 BEARING

AB -3282
90363-35004 BEARING

AJ BRT-30307
97600-30307 BEARING

AV BRT-BS-1112
90364-17006 BEARING COMP.

AY BRT-6306
97103-06306 BEARING


Thank you very much in advance. Paul.

Good luck in advance, for every 200 part #'s I've looked up pre-1965 I've found 1 to be still in the system

 

[hdjtachtig]

Wow that was fast... Thanks a lot and will keep you posted.

 

[Living in the Past]

Wow that was fast.

Yes it was. It's raining here to day and figure I would spend some time checking the micro-fiche then cross referencing in a price sheet catalogs I have.

All seals and bearings you might get lucky using the numbers on them. Guessing gaskets will be hand made. Maybe get luck and the one between the transmission and transfer case would close. The cover for the PTO on the transfer case is a little different. I remember a 1962 transfer case had a later PTO attached to it. That was probably the most mix of parts I've ever seen on these early T/T. Seems when they went bad a later T/T was used instead. Finding parts can be hard since they were only used less then three years and production numbers were low.

Guess I go and see what I can figure out on early soft top parts.

 

[hdjtachtig]

Using google I found out quite some parts are still available (seals and bearings). I put out a request for the list at the dealer but no answer yet.

these may be helpful with NOS items.

Any change of finding these NOS gears?

O FS10-33451 33461-69010 GEAR, REVERSE

S FS10-33351 33331-69010 GEAR

V FS10-33431 33421-69011

Maybe somebody knows something?

Paul.

 

[hdjtachtig]

Update. Almost all the seals and bearings of the tranny are available. Will update the complete list later. I'm trying to source some side-shifter transmission gears now in the USA. I have someone checking this out for me.

I have one other option: I can get a later floor shifting three speed here in the Netherlands. In the parts books the early and later look very familiair. Same amount of teeth, same bearings etc. Read somewhere that the later gears are thicker.

Need some help here: Who could tell me if these later gears would or would not fit my early side-shifter tranny?

 

[elmestizo]

what gear do you need? Maybe find here in Brazil.

 

[hdjtachtig]

Little update. It took some time to search the gears. Found it and now a set of good gears is waiting for me to get shipped .

In de meantime we soda blasted all the aluminium parts of the tranny and TC. All the metal parts have been cleaned and rattle-canned semi gloss black. When the gears get here we can put it all together.

We also removed the oil pan of the engine, replaced the rear crankshaft seal and the oil pan packing. The oil leaks should be over now. Found a new canister oil filter and changed that. Also painted the Canister. The clutch plate was worn. A new one is available oem so ordered that and fixed it.

Now we are working on restoring the drive shafts. Found out that a boot of the CV joint of a French car that fits the sliding piece of the drive shafts. Three of the four U joints could use new bearings so ordered 3 spider kits and put it in. The fourth was probably replaced before: that was the only greasable one. Now they all are. Have some nice pics of rebuilding the driveshafts but not here right now so will post that soon.

I have the parts shipped one of these days. So I put a wish list in the classifieds section with some other parts I'd need. Hope i can find some parts so I can take benefit of shipping parts together.

 

[hdjtachtig]

Some pics of the prop shaft restoration. The spider kits are Nipparts J2922006. The boot we used is a boot of the steering arm of a Peugeot 504/505. Spidan no. 83779. Not original but a nice fit.

 

[Old Red]

Great work. Thank you for posting all of these parts references.

I noticed your "want ad." Specter Off Road had an early slide-up-window door last summer. Marv sold me a piece from it. I don't remember if it was the driver side or the passenger side door. But it might be worth inquiring to see if it has the handle parts you are looking for. It was sitting in a bin with a bunch of other doors. You might ask for Kurt. Other than Marv, I got the impression that Kurt is probably the most knowledgeable about what obscure parts are lying around but not necessarily listed in their computer inventory.

Just a thought.

 

[hdjtachtig]

Thanks for that Red. I sent them an e-mail. Will let you know.