Not at the moment 1500 kms from truck. Will take one and post it when back.
4Wheel Underground FJ80 3Link....... Now available!!! ***A Full frontal attack***
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Suspension is EVERYTHING
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Are the front coil over mounts a "universal" product, or what's suggested for the 80, if not?
Compression adjuster option for Radflo's?
Is there any need to overkill the links?
Tie rod and draglink options? (I say it's all gotta match!)
How does one shock length fit all lift/wheel/tire combos?
Say someone wanted to run 39s on a 4-5" lifted, lighter weight 80, that wasn't concerned about cutting a little sheet metal.
How is one length adaptable to that scenarios, versus 37s that have an aversion to a little nip/tuck?
Compression adjuster option for Radflo's?
Is there any need to overkill the links?
Tie rod and draglink options? (I say it's all gotta match!)
How does one shock length fit all lift/wheel/tire combos?
Say someone wanted to run 39s on a 4-5" lifted, lighter weight 80, that wasn't concerned about cutting a little sheet metal.
How is one length adaptable to that scenarios, versus 37s that have an aversion to a little nip/tuck?
The install from post #12, he used these
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Adjustable-Shock-Towers_p_1867.html
Cost 3x as much too! Plus they require extra fab work as Brian doesn't have a tower solution yet.
Gonna git it, git it right.
Oh no I agree. But these sit inboard of the frame rails and interfere with the steering shaft. You'd need to notch it out like booger did on his towers. The ones I linked sit more towards the outer edge of the frame. No interference with the steering shaft, just a trim of the inner fender.
Which ain't no step for a stepper....
What are we gonna do on the rear, when we gotta notch the whole damn frame rail, poke 'me up through the floor, if concerned about notching a built shock tower...assuming it will be incorporated into the product offering?
About the only way it's going to worK....
Good god! That panhard mount will get your pants tight.
Yeah the rear is going to be a challenge. But you're overthinking a minor issue. It's just a simple shock tower. You can wait for Brian to make one and incorporate it into the kit or just buy the Ballistic towers which are proven to work and priced right at $100 for the pair.
4WheelUnderground
Suspension is EVERYTHING
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Are the front coil over mounts a "universal" product, or what's suggested for the 80, if not?
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Compression adjuster option for Radflo's?
Not needed with my tuning. I promise you its the most progress valving you'll ever feel next to bypass. It will ride like a Caddy on the street and blow down 1.5' whoops while you drink your latte.
Is there any need to overkill the links?
It's not over kill. I've customers that have bent 2"x.250" lowers with 2000 lb less truck. Wheeling trails I'd expect to see an 80 on.
Tie rod and draglink options? (I say it's all gotta match!)
I'll get to that in a bit but there are more options for the 80 because of how I built the panhard brackets then the mini truck guys have.
How does one shock length fit all lift/wheel/tire combos?
That's a extra long tower and you trim to fit. Not what I want for the 80. Need something more user friendly.
Say someone wanted to run 39s on a 4-5" lifted, lighter weight 80, that wasn't concerned about cutting a little sheet metal.
How is one length adaptable to that scenarios, versus 37s that have an aversion to a little nip/tuck?
The steering box hovers abover the axle on an 80, where on a minitruck it's out front. The steering shaft plane and shock orientation are more closely intertwined on an 80 so you gotta get creative. Out boarded tubing would be easiest, but then you have to potentially hack out a lot of inner fender sheet metal and move a lot of ABS junk on the driver side and the air filter on the other.
@4WheelUnderground
I just now figured out that you'd replied to other previous comments, since an unconventional quoting method.
Guess I'll go back to see what I missed.
Adjusters-
Latte is for putties. I take it black.
Links-
When I say overkill, I meant beyond what you're supplying, not less than.
Do I have a basis, or even know what over killing would be?
No, but too much of a good thing still ain't enough, reason for question.
Tie rod-
Gotcha.
I like inclusivity. It comes with the pansy ass bolt on territory.
It's pretty difficult for be to pinpoint what product sucked the most on mine, since none were bundled together, and nothing but finger pointing resulted.
Shock length-
Guess I still don't get, but I can over implicate anything and do so regularly.
I've not run a shock that wasn't ordered specific to the travel of the suspension.
Am I wrong on thinking that it's not the better way to do it, even for this?
2.5 option? Can't impact clearances. Just curious.
Easiest isn't the intent, but I'm only in the band, not even the front row cheerleading section.
That said, you made it work and the friggin' little yellow bus is parked in your driveway.
ABS needs to move straight to the trash and relocating the air filter isn't that big of a deal.
I don't see how the outer fender can remain intact, let alone the outer 4" of inner, and benefit from all that's possible.
It's not like nothing else is getting chop chopped, so why stop with a little sheet metal?
Am I mentally exceeding the bounds of functional institution here?
May be relocating a lot more in the rear, anyway.
I just now figured out that you'd replied to other previous comments, since an unconventional quoting method.
Guess I'll go back to see what I missed.
Adjusters-
Latte is for putties. I take it black.
Links-
When I say overkill, I meant beyond what you're supplying, not less than.
Do I have a basis, or even know what over killing would be?
No, but too much of a good thing still ain't enough, reason for question.
Tie rod-
Gotcha.
I like inclusivity. It comes with the pansy ass bolt on territory.
It's pretty difficult for be to pinpoint what product sucked the most on mine, since none were bundled together, and nothing but finger pointing resulted.
Shock length-
Guess I still don't get, but I can over implicate anything and do so regularly.
I've not run a shock that wasn't ordered specific to the travel of the suspension.
Am I wrong on thinking that it's not the better way to do it, even for this?
2.5 option? Can't impact clearances. Just curious.
Easiest isn't the intent, but I'm only in the band, not even the front row cheerleading section.
That said, you made it work and the friggin' little yellow bus is parked in your driveway.
ABS needs to move straight to the trash and relocating the air filter isn't that big of a deal.
I don't see how the outer fender can remain intact, let alone the outer 4" of inner, and benefit from all that's possible.
It's not like nothing else is getting chop chopped, so why stop with a little sheet metal?
Am I mentally exceeding the bounds of functional institution here?
May be relocating a lot more in the rear, anyway.
Well nobody knows what you're really building here, except you(maybe), so suggestions might be moot right now
An orbital valve assembly could mount on the side of Brian's 'Cobra' towers on an 80. I ran those on my runner project , they're sexy and brutally strong in design(like all his stuff).
If the whole body is 75% gone you have few , if any, limits. Google 'Jesse at tlt ' on pirate if you haven't already. All tube on an 80 chassis. Way more up travel than any of us with reasonable sheet metal can achieve. There's gobs of it hidden on an 80 that only those without fenders can achieve. I'm sure I give up at least 3"+ just due to a 37 and a fender, even more when looking at it articulated.
An orbital valve assembly could mount on the side of Brian's 'Cobra' towers on an 80. I ran those on my runner project , they're sexy and brutally strong in design(like all his stuff).If the whole body is 75% gone you have few , if any, limits. Google 'Jesse at tlt ' on pirate if you haven't already. All tube on an 80 chassis. Way more up travel than any of us with reasonable sheet metal can achieve. There's gobs of it hidden on an 80 that only those without fenders can achieve. I'm sure I give up at least 3"+ just due to a 37 and a fender, even more when looking at it articulated.
Well nobody knows what you're really building here, except you(maybe), so suggestions might be moot right now
If the whole body is 75% gone you have few , if any, limits. Google 'Jesse at tlt ' on pirate if you haven't already. All tube on an 80 chassis. Way more up travel than any of us with reasonable sheet metal can achieve. There's gobs of it hidden on an 80 that only those without fenders can achieve. I'm sure I give up at least 3"+ just due to a 37 and a fender, even more when looking at it articulated.
This one right? I remember coming across it before. I've already taken 3" out of the outer/inner fenders. I actually like how it looks sitting fairly low with wide open fenders. I have no problem cutting out more to get more tire stuffage. I know folks here cringe at the thought, but this is just a weekend toy for me and not a daily driver. Sits in the garage most of the time.
Here you go @Delancy, more inspiration for your next build!
Wish I could take more out of the rear fenders though
Looking good 4WU! Theirs a lot to think about when re-engineering a suspension system. Its easy to make your suspention system move like flex armstrong but much harder to make it handle good while at highway speeds. It took me a while but I finally got it dialed with the right sway bars and valving on the coilovers. I found the CJ coilover tower by Warn to work with light modifications. I would probably try "Balistics" towers for 2.5" coilovers. Anyways, keep the mods going!
Y'all, I'm building back to what I had, minus the volatility.
It wasn't a POS, so the next 80 or existing 450 redux won't be either.
I did consider other options, but would build an actual buggy, if that was what I wanted.
It's not.
I love the three ton, behemoth station wagon, and obviously like beating dead horses, trying to make a rock donkey out of something that's not, but the challenge seems more sensible than giving up smoking or logical than walking back twelve steps.
Full bodied 80 just like everyone else....
I have to build mine with resale value in the back of my head. No serious sheet metal carving with the exception of possible rear shock towers resembling(vaguely in quality) dons work on sol's fjc.
You chopped off the arms and coils and are concerned about resale value?
Don't hit a dealership. They'll note frame damage on a multi point inspection during a free oil change for a body mount being chopped, which will impact value.....
Has anyone successfully run rear coil overs on an 80/100?
Are the 120 guys the only that have done?
Why?
Don't hit a dealership. They'll note frame damage on a multi point inspection during a free oil change for a body mount being chopped, which will impact value.....
Has anyone successfully run rear coil overs on an 80/100?
Are the 120 guys the only that have done?
Why?
