Kurt, do you see lack of fuel being as much of an issue as lack of clean, potable, water? Figure the 200 has 275ish of range with another tank worth of jerry cans so 500 miles of range at least. It's rare in the world you'll go 500 miles without fuel outside of Russia or mid Sahara. I'm building my 200 for an eventual trip through the pan-american. I'd almost prefer a water tank than a fuel tank. From what I see, fuel is the least of my issues. Just wondering your thoughts as a much more experience guy then myself.
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Kurt, do you see lack of fuel being as much of an issue as lack of clean, potable, water? Figure the 200 has 275ish of range with another tank worth of jerry cans so 500 miles of range at least. It's rare in the world you'll go 500 miles without fuel outside of Russia or mid Sahara. I'm building my 200 for an eventual trip through the pan-american. I'd almost prefer a water tank than a fuel tank. From what I see, fuel is the least of my issues. Just wondering your thoughts as a much more experience guy then myself.
Don't forget that when you are in the boonies, in 4Lo all day, or when things go wrong...or you're stranded in snow and need to run the heater, fuel gets used in a way that is not anywhere close to highway range. Long off-roading trips...Alaska...blizzards...etc. Or...you need to give fuel to someone else who is stranded (ask me how I know).
True. I feel that buying reliable water is more important than buying reliable non-diesel fuel. It's sort of a toss up really. I'm sure it depends entire on your route and where you're going. Being absolutely stranded with no water and having days, or being comfortably stranded with no fuel and having weeks?
I can camp for a week on a 5 gallon jerry can of water. You can run out of fuel on the Pony Express Trail... I want the fuel
I've got 42 gallons on my 100 and its about perfect, 50 would be better. Packing 5 jerry cans of fuel is totally doable but not something I'd prefer to do.
I can camp for a week on a 5 gallon jerry can of water. You can run out of fuel on the Pony Express Trail... I want the fuel
I've got 42 gallons on my 100 and its about perfect, 50 would be better. Packing 5 jerry cans of fuel is totally doable but not something I'd prefer to do.
I can understand the gallon of water a day is sort of overkill. It's more of a safety buffer than anything else. From what I'm gathering, it's easier to drive to water than carry it? What if there's a solo breakdown? I'm not trying to be contrarian, just throwing ideas.
I live in the desert (Dubai), and I would rather have fuel. You need a reasonable amount of both, but fuel can get you to water, while water can't get you to fuel. If you're stuck or stranded, you can ration as Kurt suggested. Stay with the vehicle (the quickest way to get help) and a few gallons of water will last a long time.
Understandable but the solo breakdown seems to be the wrench in the cog
I have considered the long ranger option as well- but if there was a US sourced option that is not 2G for just the tank I would be in. Attached, is the quote for a 47-gallon long ranger I received a couple of months ago.
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It is easy to come up with ways to store water. Fuel is tricky, explosive, flammable and all that. AEV has cool rear bumpers for water storage.
The larger gas tank problem is a bitch on these vehicles. I want a big friggin tank and I don't like what is available.
My wife's ride is an AEV JK350 (her choice), the water in the bumper is great for washing hands, pots, dogs, etc when camping, but we still carrier separate drinking water. The AEV spare tire fuel tank works well, you do have to stop to perform the fuel transfer, but it takes less time than pulling rotopaxs off the roof rack on the 200. Titan makes a more generic version of the AEV spare tire fuel cell, it holds 12 gallons vs 10 of the AEV and fits more spare tire carriers. I thought about trying it on an ARB tire carrier.
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yeah that sounds like a good possibility. Solving this fuel problem is on my mind all the time. The normal range is ridiculous.
I have JK350 in the works......I love em
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I'd be on board if there was a more reasonable solution. Don't think I'd need a 47 gallon auxiliary but it'd be nice to get around 500 miles per fill up. It's not even a consideration to me at $2000 plus freight plus install.
No kidding....me too. I am surprised this has not been addressed better by now.
Seems like a major problem for everyone
Seems like a major problem for everyone
Yep me too, hate the range, would love a solution.
There is one......Just need to pick a few brains.....talk to some good mechanics that are good at solving these problems.
Looks like a good market to break in to. I'm gonna talk to some engineer friends.
I'm willing to throw some money at it for a better solution than what I have seen.
Looks like a good market to break in to. I'm gonna talk to some engineer friends.
I'm willing to throw some money at it for a better solution than what I have seen.
I can camp for a week on a 5 gallon jerry can of water. You can run out of fuel on the Pony Express Trail... I want the fuel
I've got 42 gallons on my 100 and its about perfect, 50 would be better. Packing 5 jerry cans of fuel is totally doable but not something I'd prefer to do.
Kurt do you use Jerry cans or you have a big tank??
My 100 has dual tanks, the 40 has Long Range tank and the 74 is a diesel, it has more range then all of them
I do regularly pack 1-3 MFC's.
A lot of people make their own for cars.
many (fabricated aluminum) tanks crack at the welds on hard impacts (and one that actually ended in a flaming disaster
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if your tank is outside of the main frame/cage structure i would recommend a "soft bladder" fuel cell in a steel container.
if the tank is inside of the frame you could use a hard bladder (polyethylene) in a steel or aluminum container.
IMHO buy the inner (seamless) bladder....you can save money by building your own outside container ...
btw... if you have trouble finding a automotive fuel cell that fits your needs you may check this link to Moeller marine tanks ; http://www.moellermarine.com/afterma...rmanent_tanks/...same material; just different shapes
many (fabricated aluminum) tanks crack at the welds on hard impacts (and one that actually ended in a flaming disaster
if your tank is outside of the main frame/cage structure i would recommend a "soft bladder" fuel cell in a steel container.
if the tank is inside of the frame you could use a hard bladder (polyethylene) in a steel or aluminum container.
IMHO buy the inner (seamless) bladder....you can save money by building your own outside container ...
btw... if you have trouble finding a automotive fuel cell that fits your needs you may check this link to Moeller marine tanks ; http://www.moellermarine.com/afterma...rmanent_tanks/...same material; just different shapes
Lots of good brainstorming.
For someone with a swing out, something like this generic 17 gallon tank could easily fit the spare location - link
Sure, it wouldn't maximize the space, but 17 gallons goes a huge way towards extended travels without the killer weight.
I personally would love just a 5-8 gallon aux tank (for 400 mile range), and I think one in the right dimensions could be made to fit above the spare tire, even with the evap staying there.
For someone with a swing out, something like this generic 17 gallon tank could easily fit the spare location - link
Sure, it wouldn't maximize the space, but 17 gallons goes a huge way towards extended travels without the killer weight.
I personally would love just a 5-8 gallon aux tank (for 400 mile range), and I think one in the right dimensions could be made to fit above the spare tire, even with the evap staying there.
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