3B Rebuild and Performance Notes

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I might have found some more potential in these pumps.

I've got a 3B inline pump on the bench in bits at the moment and the diaphragm doesn't travel far enough for the rack to reach full fuel. The rack has 19mm of travel and the diaphragm approximately 14mm. I can't say how much travel the daiphragm was giving up on the max fuel end, but it felt like a few mm. I busted the centre out of the leather whilst trying to figure it out, it was already quite torn.

It's probably dependent on who made your diaphragm but this one would have been original. It would be quite easy to check. Remove the diaphragm cap, remove fuel screw and see if you can push the diaphragm in far enough to max out the rack which will bottom with a nice "click". If it does bottom out you should tell us what brand diaphragm you are running so we can buy one too. ;)

Inside the diaphragm housing the fuel rack can be mechanically limited by 2 things, the stop lever that your edic is connected to (on the right/upper/top of pump) and the governor/rev limiter (on the left/lower).

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In the above pic I have the rack at the full fuel position. Although it looks close, the arm from the stop lever is actually a good 10mm away. The governor arm is only about 1mm away. I'd be interested to see how much the governor arm holds up fuel. There's a graph for it in the manual but it only goes from 12.9mm rack travel and those with maxed out pumps will be using much more than that. However, it does say by 3520 rpm it's moving the to less than 12.9mm which is a lot of travel to lose over the potential whole 19mm. You could easily disable the governor by removing the pin that its arm acts on.

Also for what it's worth, with the fuel screw in this position the rack is just hitting full fuel (with out compressing the capsule at all) so there's no need to completely remove the fuel screw, but it wont hurt anything if you do.

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Im not sure if the 3B plungers have a retard slot at the full fuel position(starting) but if it does, you would want to limit the rack from hitting that area under full load running conditions... pop pop pop...

Im not sure if an RSV type governor would fit with enough clearance to the block, but that is a possible conversion to get rid of the less than ideal vacuum system. It would also open the door to boost compensation. The throttle would be a little touchy however.
 
Hey Yotahed.

Did you ever find out more about the variation/orifice size/needle lift/flow ect in different injector nozzles? Mine are out now, I'm replacing the original DN4SDND135s with DN4SD24s. I'm intending to buy a new set of 135s later on just to see if it makes a difference, I'm not expecting much (if anything) but if no one tries these things then we'll never know...

I was going to measure the orifice sizes. There's a BJ40 (B engine) down the road that should have DN4SD24ND80s in it I was going to grab to measure too, though they will likely be buggered as both the bonnet and intake have rusted away.
 
The orifice sizes are all the same, the needle lift may differ from one to the other. I ve never measured, but I do know the plain DN4SD24 flow slightly less than an ND80 or ND135 nozzle.

New standard nozzles will work fine, Ive yet to see any positive benifits of a non standard nozzle in these motors. Direct injection would make a much larger difference, but not i an IDI
 
Looks like the DN4SD24 has a longer seat shank and pintle. Less flow. Different profile overall.

The 135 is what we have been using, the other #s prove harder to obtain in a reasonable timeline.
 
yotahed. Just read through this thread, lots of testing. was wondering if anything you did might work on a manual 2H? Mine is turbo'd. right now I am needing to do a head gasket replacement :-( currently running about 12-14psi boost. would like some better lower end acceleration or just more efficient operation. would the mercedes spring work on the 2h pump?
 
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