What LX7 has had engine issues?
RECALL 25LA07 (25LB07 Interim Notice) - Engine Recall - UPDATED: DEC 18, 2025
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I posted last night about the 0-40wt oil and it runs fine. Marginally better than the 5-30. Smoother start up, acceleration, and idle. My garage was 67f this morning and its 47 now and i have been idling for a couple hours at work (in the field this week banging heads). Oil pressure at idle is between 3 and 6 notches up on the guage.
Its really a mix of Mobile 1 ESP i cut down with 0-30ESP. It should be right at 12.5 cSt@100c which is the cut off to 40wt.
I am about to tune it so going a little heavier. I would run 0-30 esp european emissions system protection formula if stock (dont worry it just maxes the additives to the cut off).
75-85 motul in the transfer case, jolting is smoothed out some as well. Will do 75-90 next. At 20k miles it was mildly dark. I would suggest yall change it at 30-40k at most.
Getting this WS junk transmission fluid out soon too.
One important note. I am days out of the recall 4/24 build. Mine jittered and vibrated like crazy with 0-20. I dont know which bearings i have, i just hope they put the lead back in them so they have a chance at a long life.
Its really a mix of Mobile 1 ESP i cut down with 0-30ESP. It should be right at 12.5 cSt@100c which is the cut off to 40wt.
I am about to tune it so going a little heavier. I would run 0-30 esp european emissions system protection formula if stock (dont worry it just maxes the additives to the cut off).
75-85 motul in the transfer case, jolting is smoothed out some as well. Will do 75-90 next. At 20k miles it was mildly dark. I would suggest yall change it at 30-40k at most.
Getting this WS junk transmission fluid out soon too.
One important note. I am days out of the recall 4/24 build. Mine jittered and vibrated like crazy with 0-20. I dont know which bearings i have, i just hope they put the lead back in them so they have a chance at a long life.
My question too. Lots of speculation and catch all statements flowing around.
We have yet to see. There is mechanically nothing different among the lx6 and lx7 engine yet toyota only has recalls on lx6. This is slap in the face for the hybrid owners here. There are tundra hybrid failures noted. We are driving a ticking time bomb. Unfortunately I think people on internet have tempered their free speech in fear of toyota but the YouTube videos are there. Get yourself an older toyota with a v8. There is no solution for this engine yet. Im hopefully somewhere down the line toyota admits its a failure and swaps to the 2.0 l turbo engine for lx but that engine is currently in development. Who knows there may be issues with this new engine as well
They did update the bearings. From what I read they originally removed lead (probably other stuff) because of environmental concerns.
I hope mine falls into a window were they corrected the metallurgy and running higher viscosity higher hths oil helps.
I hope mine falls into a window were they corrected the metallurgy and running higher viscosity higher hths oil helps.
The mere fact that the engine is the same (though technically it is not since one is a hybrid and the other isn’t) in no way means it is plagued by the same issue if Toyota fixed the manufacturing issue.
Huh? You really think they fixed it? Not trying to sound rude at all, but there are some 26's that are failing (Tundra's). I had an OT ordered and had a deposit on it.....the second one my dealer got was mine behind the GM/owner. We walked away after seeing two LX600's sitting in the back waiting on a replacement engine. It's driving me crazy....I want the 700OT so bad but can't justify stroking a check for that amount and knowing it could be a ticking time bomb. I'm basically retired now at the ripe age of 58 and I just don't want to deal with this issue.
I haven't seen the 26 failure reports. Can you post a link?
Yes, I do. I am yet to see an actual report of failing 25 or 26 Tundras or LX/GXs. What I have seen/heard are anecdotal accounts by YouTubers that are salivating for clicks and views. Oh, and one guy that got a Lemmon and posted in the Tundra forum. The 600s you saw, were they 25s? Do you know? AFAIK, Toyota implemented changes to the bearings in mid 24 that took care of the issue, reason for late 24s and 25s not being included in the recall. Honestly, if I were you and really wanted an OT, I would just go ahead and buy and enjoy this amazing car. Worst case, buy an extended warranty and have piece of mind up until 10 years from when you bought. That’s what I did. Recall or not, if your engine goes kaput you get a new one and drive another 10 years with a brand new engine well into your late seventies.
The recall is a SAFETY recall. Non-hybrid trucks that eat a bearing on the highway have no way to get to the side of the road. Hybrids can still use the electric motor to get to the side of the road, or even drive a mile or two to an exit. This means they're not potential sitting ducks on the interstate. That is the only reason the hybrids aren't included in the recall.
I agree that it sucks, but from Toyota's perspective, they're going to fix it either way. Non-recalled trucks get a rebuilt engine (the various hybrids that have failed over the years all got a rebuilt short block); recalled trucks get a new crate engine. There is a confidence gap here that is understandably frustrating for hybrid and other yet-to-be-recalled owners.
Since this whole debacle started, there have been multiple hybrid failures in the exact same way (usually eating a main bearing, but sometimes eating a rod bearing). There are understandably fewer hybrid failures, as there are fewer hybrids. There was a spreadsheet on the Tundra forum that got locked when Toyota's lawyers showed up and a bunch of info got deleted. I shared a link earlier to a thread that has all the official data allowed.
I don't watch the FB groups like a hawk, but I have seen multiple 2025MY failures getting a short block rebuild from Toyota (a couple were 2024 build dates). Haven't seen anything on 2026s yet.
1% failure rate, gents. Still drastically lower than pretty much everything else out there.
Y'all need to find something else to b!tch about.
Y'all need to find something else to b!tch about.
Recall in my book should be
There needs to be an official failure thread here. Lets all keep track
I agree. As long as it's from the first hand account from the owners here. That way, we can follow the journey and the steps the owners take to get it resolved.
We can't be using my friend's cousin's girlfriend's dad saw in youtube.
Fake news. We will never know the actual failure rate. On the Tundra forum, where there is a lot more info on this stuff, the minimum failure rate was reported to be 1.5% per Toyota. We will never know the ceiling of that rate because Toyota is preemptively replacing 102k engines and will likely replace 10s of 1000s more.
Also, engines are failing at completely random miles. One guy's engine ate a main bearing at 254k miles. He posted to the 2023-2026 Tundra FB group. 2022 truck. He came back to the thread and confirmed that the dealer said the engine is locked and he's getting a new crate engine.
To me, that's the best possible outcome. Rack up tons of miles and then get a free engine. Lol
Yeah, that guy knows what's up. I don't understand why anyone would voluntarily take theirs in for the replacement motor. Drive it till it blows or starts knocking then get the free engine.
Pardon me for getting my figures so drastically off. 1.5% failure rate.
Yeah... get your figures correct, dear sir. That 0.5% needs to be recognized.
Cute, but you misunderstand.
It’s at least that.
That’s from completed repairs reported after both recall phases. Again, we’ll never know the real rate because they’re replacing engines that haven’t failed yet. In the second recall batch of 120k trucks alone, they already had 3k failures. That’s 2.5%.
If 2.5% fail within 18 months, and we see failures well over 40k, 50k, 60k miles—not to mention our friend who cashed in on a new engine after 254k miles—it stands to reason the real failure rate is substantially higher.
I remember one person on here that experienced failure, at highway speeds. An early one. Everyone thought his wife bought cheap gas.
Just be glad you are not in a GM.
I have more gripes on this thing regarding the tuning on it. My old 2.7 F150 XL beater has a better tune and throttle response (like night and day better).
Just be glad you are not in a GM.
I have more gripes on this thing regarding the tuning on it. My old 2.7 F150 XL beater has a better tune and throttle response (like night and day better).
All good man, I get it. But my point still stands. I see a bunch of hearsay, a lot of "oh Toyota is no longer a reliable deity!" Please. Give me a break. If someone's identity is so taken up with having a mode of transportation be reliable, one clearly doesn't need to be driving cars, and probably can't actually afford a $120k car.
I've had 60k trouble free miles between two LX's, one LX600 and one LX700 Overtrail, and couldn't be happier. And I've had not a little enjoyment watching my buddies have their BMW's and land rovers engines blow up and leave them on the side of the road...very predictably.
Heck, my only problem with my 700 happened because I ripped a transmission artery out of its neck during an off road adventure trying to go down a trail my 37in tired Jeep rubicon had a bit of a challenge doing. The engine has been flawless.