1984 Toyota Camry / Vista with 1.8l turbo diesel 1C

[Mike NXP]

@Eurasiaoverland , that information was really helpful thanks for sharing.

- I didn't realize the parts diagram I was looking at was for ' w/o power steering'
- The next parts diagram you shared is exactly what I have but for some reason I couldn't find that when I searched
- OK so it looks like if I want to replace the idler pulley + tensioner bolt assembly I'm looking for PULLEY ASSY, POWER STEERING IDLE 44350-12050
- For now, if the belt just stays quiet I'm not worried about it but I may order the part to have it on hand. The bracket assembly is no longer available and all of my searches so far have struck out. I'm going to start seeing if I can find one of these rigs in a junk yard somewhere out there. Ah and indeed I found a seized 1.8l turbo diesel in Washington.


- I agree with that belt part # for the PS+AC belt. Some cross references reveal several belts of lengths around 1210mm. This is about the same length as the original I pulled off after vehicle purchase.
- So far, this new belt of proper length installed today has been working fine with no noise but I don't want to jinx it
- Can confirm this is not a single drive belt system and the crank pulley has dueling ribbed pulleys.

 

[Mike NXP]

Sometimes I forget Google can find everything and most likely someone in Russia has a picture of what I need to see. Looks like the Corolla had a 2C motor at one point and it seems to share the same setup as my 1C

These pics supports the theory that the little washer welded thing may indeed be original part of the bolt and I am also indeed an idiot for messing with it. The bracket doesn't appear to have any casting to hold the bolt.

I noticed ( after hacking the s*** out of the bolt ) that with the right orientation, you can twist the bolt and slide it right out in between the slot. The bolt head is the exact same size and when held square, it slides out.

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

You should be able to find some sort of replacement bolt, but it won't have the waisted part which the original had, and I still maintain that if it had a 13 mm head, it was not original to the vehicle. You could tack on a washer for the same effect. Pulley bearings should be straightforward to replace, you might need to grind out cover plates which have been staked or tacked into place.

I've bought things from those Siberian breakers in person (Vladivostok is a paradise of NOS and used Toyota parts), and through Russian friends, but that is now very, very difficult due to the war.

 

[Mike NXP]

You should be able to find some sort of replacement bolt, but it won't have the waisted part which the original had, and I still maintain that if it had a 13 mm head, it was not original to the vehicle. You could tack on a washer for the same effect. Pulley bearings should be straightforward to replace, you might need to grind out cover plates which have been staked or tacked into place.

I've bought things from those Siberian breakers in person (Vladivostok is a paradise of NOS and used Toyota parts), and through Russian friends, but that is now very, very difficult due to the war.

The bolt is weird with reverse thread, so when you tighten it , it pushed the adjuster further away. I think the current setup will be fine for a while but it would be nice to track down some OEM spare parts anyway.


Or maybe just a spare car, too bad it's a gas version and they want $18k , shes a beauty though
>> Used 1984 Toyota Camry For Sale

That website actually has some really cool old cars, some Toyotas I've never even heard of

 

[Mike NXP]

Update on old brown..

Clocked 44mpg on the last fill up with this rig. Seems like keeping it under 60mph allows for the best fuel consumption. When I run higher rpms between shifts and closer to 70mph then the fuel consumption drops a down a few points. I'm still running #2 diesel with a bit of Lucas anti gel since it's getting colder. Once temps are more consistently below freezing I'm going to switch to the winter blend which is 50-50 of #2/#1

It's got plenty of speed to keep up with most traffic. That doesn't include the idiots who drive giant trucks, ride my ass, and then pass me like were in a nascar race. I feel bad for those tiny dick morons.

Anyway after a few hundred more miles have been driven, this rig has really grown on me. It's just a super simple fun car to drive ....

I do feel like I am lacking in the steering / suspension category . Maybe motor mounts are a bit worn too. I've got it scheduled to go up on a lift next week and get looked over / attempt at an alignment and we'll see what else looks worn out.

** Is it normal that I haven't heard the cooling fan kick on at all? It's been pretty cold so maybe not a big deal, but figured I'd hear it blowing every now and then

 

[Mike NXP]

Shoot, so it looks like I've got a leak from the backside of my power steering pump. Nothing major but enough to show signs of fluid dripping down after i wiped it clean a few hours ago.

I recently put multi atf fluid in there which maybe is too thin for the system but I doubt it

I suspect ill need to remove and replace it. Luckily I see some parts are available from aftermarket sources

 

[duncanrm]

Update on old brown..

So good..

I lent my little "2L" powered diesel Hilux ute to someone a few weeks back.. its got no power steering, a manual transmission, wind up windows etc.. the guy hasnt driven an older car in 20+ years and he said he loved it - really wistful sentiment towards having more simplicity in his life. There's a great deal to be said for having less tech and nonsense in everyday things.

 

[Mike NXP]

So good..

I lent my little "2L" powered diesel Hilux ute to someone a few weeks back.. its got no power steering, a manual transmission, wind up windows etc.. the guy hasnt driven an older car in 20+ years and he said he loved it - really wistful sentiment towards having more simplicity in his life. There's a great deal to be said for having less tech and nonsense in everyday things.

I totally agree. I look at the automotive industry as sort of an art form and reflection of our times. Some look at music in the same way... It is genuinely depressing to see where the industry is going , and that's not a low blow at electric cars, but just the all around quality and the concept of what a car is for people.

You wouldn't believe the amount of aggressive drivers I've already had riding my ass while driving this thing. I drive the same stretch of "highway" ( AKA dark paved backroad feeling road) everyday. I used to never see anyone on the road and now I've got people blowing by me honking their horns at 7AM. You know the type, they are typically in a much newer vehicle, probably a pickup truck with no cargo being hauled , and they pass you like they are in an F1 race lol.

 

[Mike NXP]

Power steering pump leak
I decided to give some AT205 a shot at fixing this leak before I consider removing & replacing the pump ( with winter fast approaching ) I know it's not an ideal fix but I've had either good luck or no results when I've tried it in the past so it's worth a shot. Going to run it for 3-4 hours then drain and fill with some DEXIII instead of the Multi ATF DEX ( which is allegedly thinner )

** What I need to figure out next is if my pump has an air vane for idle up like on my 100 series. I don't see it on the parts diagram so hopefully not. The part on my 100 series was super fragile and broke when I removed it. I don't want to open up a can of worms , will just have to live with the leak for now.

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

I totally agree. I look at the automotive industry as sort of an art form and reflection of our times. Some look at music in the same way... It is genuinely depressing to see where the industry is going , and that's not a low blow at electric cars, but just the all around quality and the concept of what a car is for people.

You wouldn't believe the amount of aggressive drivers I've already had riding my ass while driving this thing. I drive the same stretch of "highway" ( AKA dark paved backroad feeling road) everyday. I used to never see anyone on the road and now I've got people blowing by me honking their horns at 7AM. You know the type, they are typically in a much newer vehicle, probably a pickup truck with no cargo being hauled , and they pass you like they are in an F1 race lol.

*Rant warning*

I strongly agree - since something like the late 1990s 'improvements' in vehicles seem mostly in the areas of (i) reducing development and manufacturing costs; (ii) improving safety and (iii) reducing emissions. None of those things in my opinion makes the car a better product and it certainly does not make them nicer to drive. Get in a modern car and what looks like a decent sized vehicle is still somehow a pokey plastic-covered cave full of cheap looking LCD (I think, don't really care) screens, flimsy non-latching switching, and, horror of horrors, touch screen controls. Peripheral vision is terrible and there is a general sense of being insulated from any real sensation of driving. Couple that with automatic transmissions, electronic handbrakes (why??), electric steering and any number of 'driver assists' for those too cretinous to drive down the road, and driving a car these days is how I imagine it is to drive an electric wheelchair. In fact, it seems that the whole meaning of the word 'improvement' has changed in car design (and probably other fields such as software design) to 'adding more features while removing user interaction'. Yet people are sure that they are driving better vehicles than their parents' generation. It's a bit like food - the garbage that stacks most of the shelving in supermarkets barely contains anything which is properly a foodstuff, yet people are dazzled by the choice of vile flavour and texture sensations.

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

Power steering pump leak
I decided to give some AT205 a shot at fixing this leak before I consider removing & replacing the pump ( with winter fast approaching ) I know it's not an ideal fix but I've had either good luck or no results when I've tried it in the past so it's worth a shot. Going to run it for 3-4 hours then drain and fill with some DEXIII instead of the Multi ATF DEX ( which is allegedly thinner )

** What I need to figure out next is if my pump has an air vane for idle up like on my 100 series. I don't see it on the parts diagram so hopefully not. The part on my 100 series was super fragile and broke when I removed it. I don't want to open up a can of worms , will just have to live with the leak for now.

These steering pumps are pretty easy to rebuild, and the genuine parts kits are still available: 04446-27011. The shafts are still available too, and very cheap: https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=44312-12030

The only reason to replace it would be if the internal bore of the pump was scored, or the brass bushings in the housing worn out.

 

[sodafeld1]

*Rant warning*

I strongly agree - since something like the late 1990s 'improvements' in vehicles seem mostly in the areas of (i) reducing development and manufacturing costs; (ii) improving safety and (iii) reducing emissions. None of those things in my opinion makes the car a better product and it certainly does not make them nicer to drive. Get in a modern car and what looks like a decent sized vehicle is still somehow a pokey plastic-covered cave full of cheap looking LCD (I think, don't really care) screens, flimsy non-latching switching, and, horror of horrors, touch screen controls. Peripheral vision is terrible and there is a general sense of being insulated from any real sensation of driving. Couple that with automatic transmissions, electronic handbrakes (why??), electric steering and any number of 'driver assists' for those too cretinous to drive down the road, and driving a car these days is how I imagine it is to drive an electric wheelchair. In fact, it seems that the whole meaning of the word 'improvement' has changed in car design (and probably other fields such as software design) to 'adding more features while removing user interaction'. Yet people are sure that they are driving better vehicles than their parents' generation. It's a bit like food - the garbage that stacks most of the shelving in supermarkets barely contains anything which is properly a foodstuff, yet people are dazzled by the choice of vile flavour and texture sensations.

Amen and hallelujah! Good flow to that rant.
Use to be a joke upon how many certain people it would take to change a light globe, now it is no joke, most call an electrician..it is tragic as H G Well's 'Eloi', bred for the labour and food for the real and unseen rulers. Bit of a hijack, sorry.

 

[Mike NXP]

*Rant warning*

Indeed, I hear that....It's all part of the dumbing down of society......I love watching folks nowadays try to back into a parking space while they stare straight down at their backup camera lol and they NEVER get it straight in between the lines...There seems to be an increase in total lack of spatial awareness , not just when driving.....You've got guys like Elon changing and defining the industry with his Chinese powered junk and the masses keep buying it up and making him richer

I'm going to get off topic pretty quick here The morale of the story? Buy old cars lol

These steering pumps are pretty easy to rebuild, and the genuine parts kits are still available: 04446-27011. The shafts are still available too, and very cheap: https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=44312-12030

The only reason to replace it would be if the internal bore of the pump was scored, or the brass bushings in the housing worn out.

Ah no way..Thanks for sharing that....Actually my local Napa had a seal rebuild kit for like $20 BUT I may not have the skill to rebuild something like that =] I assume I could get it all done and I think the service manual has a how-to....

I also found an original remanned option from this company which claims original OEM cast iron pump ...For $119 that's hard to resist...s*** then maybe I could use my original to practice on / rebuild


First step is to suck out the current fluid and see if adding the thicker DEXIII will help. If that doesn't solve the problem I will have to dive deeper.

I still need to poke around and see if there are vacuum lines going into the pump that I don't want to break. I don't see it on the parts diagram but I think I saw something showing it in the service manual. Will need to inspect this weekend.

 

[Mike NXP]

Power steering pump removal
My vehicle model code is the CV series. I see mention of the SV series through the manual which I assume is the petrol ..However the CV model doesn't appear to have any vac lines for idle up and should be an easy remove and replacement.

I'm not as confident about the potential to rebuild. Hoping the fluid swap slows / stops the leak but otherwise I'll order a remanned

This may be easy for most people but here is the procedure for future reference / searches

Power Steering Pump rebuild
Mine is leaking from the rear seal. Based on the service procedure it sort of seems like I could remove the snap ring and get in there without fully disassembling but IDK.

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Assembly
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[Mike NXP]

Fuel Filter Replacement
Another mostly straight forward service but I wanted to post for future search.

My filter and bracket bolt were on very tight, give em a good soak in PB...When you try to loosen the filter the bracket flexes a bit . It makes life easier if you remove the airbox , just a few bolts .get a second set of hands to counter the torque you put on the filter.

New Toyota filter comes with o ring for filter + water sensor but not the tiny little o ring on sensor plunger . Mine seemed ok and I decided it ...The water sensor comes out easy but it's fragile so don't force it .

Looks like previous owner managed to use a WIX33138

Hit the primer plunger thing like 8-10 times to fill the filter up

 

[sodafeld1]

Can understand the appeal of the new steer pump for ease and shine, but highly recommend resealing and having a look at your old one eventually. They are beautifully simple things, almost last forever design, the vane pump. You underestimate yourself.

 

[Mike NXP]

Can understand the appeal of the new steer pump for ease and shine, but highly recommend resealing and having a look at your old one eventually. They are beautifully simple things, almost last forever design, the vane pump. You underestimate yourself.

Appreciate the confidence, you're right maybe I could handle the repair..... I have done carb rebuilds and other more intricate work. The service manual made me a bit intimidated at first but after looking closer it doesn't seem to bad.... I really don't want to deal with this until spring time but I may need to act sooner.

The leak does seem to have slowed a bit after adding AT205 re-seal and DEXIII but I'm sure it'll be back

Would be cool to re-seal and keep the original alive. It's really quiet and works well currently. I will ride it out another hundred miles or so and see how much fluid has leaked out.

 

[sodafeld1]

Appreciate the confidence, you're right maybe I could handle the repair..... I have done carb rebuilds and other more intricate work. The service manual made me a bit intimidated at first but after looking closer it doesn't seem to bad.... I really don't want to deal with this until spring time but I may need to act sooner.

The leak does seem to have slowed a bit after adding AT205 re-seal and DEXIII but I'm sure it'll be back

Would be cool to re-seal and keep the original alive. It's really quiet and works well currently. I will ride it out another hundred miles or so and see how much fluid has leaked out.

Not fully familiar with yours but from a similar toyota era is this one, most often it is the lowest seal on the spring piston which leaks..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWBcbiwIoM

 

[Mike NXP]

Not fully familiar with yours but from a similar toyota era is this one, most often it is the lowest seal on the spring piston which leaks..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiWBcbiwIoM

Thanks for sharing . Ill have to do some homework and figure out best way forward . If the Rockauto reman is truly an OEM rebuilt unit its hard to say no
I may go for it and then rebuild mine at a more leisurely pace . Limited tools and works space make it tough to do certain jobs


Leaking off the backside here . It seems to be slowing down after dose of AT205 but need to drive more and see how it holds up

 

[Mike NXP]

How depressed should I be that I found a small bit of oil on the intake side of my turbo ? I removed the tube and airbox during fuel filter replacement and noticed this .

Dipstick still shows full, and I'm not blowing excessive smoke but I feel like this probably isn't good . Google tells me it's not normal so my sadness levels are escalating lol

I wonder if I have a PCV or some kind of crankcase pressure deal somewhere. The elbow coming off the air tube leads back into the valve cover but it seems to just be a hose , no valve or anything in there. Some searches say a little bit of oil might come from that tube and be seen in the area I am looking . Maybe it's not a big deal ...

I also some folks mention the need to let the engine idle / cool down before turning off, is that something I need to consider doing after normal driving ? Manual says only after excessive turbo use and high rpms to let it idle for a bit before shutdown