HFS springs?

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LukeO

LukeO

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Anyone use the CCOT HFS 4" lift springs?

I understand they are longer than most other lift prings.

How do they hold up? I like what I've read about them plus they are less expensive than having Alcan make a pair.

I have the Skyjacker 4" on my 72 but would like to try something else with a better pack.

I'm thinking the HFS 4" springs, shackel reversal, 2 1/2" anti inversion shackles and running either 35" BFG MUD TA's or 35-36" TSL Swamper radials on my 79 40.

Not too crazy about SOA, kinda like the springs attached where they are.
 
i asked the same question, although i do not know how to refer you to the thread, you can do a search for it.
 
I have been running some "0" lift springs that were samples when they started this venture ont he front of my rockcrawler for a year now and thye are damn tough. Lice springs.

Next week I wll be installing a 4" kit on my family hauler and will let you know how they ride.
 
looks good

What a difference a little lift makes.

One question though?

Maybe it's the angle of the pictures but CCOT advertises how their springs are longer than others, your front shackles in the photos don't look far from being verticle like any other lift springs.

Or is it just the angle?

So how do they ride/flex?

I'm still thinking about the 5" springs.
 
wngrog said:
I have been running some "0" lift springs that were samples when they started this venture ont he front of my rockcrawler for a year now and thye are damn tough. Lice springs.

Next week I wll be installing a 4" kit on my family hauler and will let you know how they ride.
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Nolen, have you or anyone else been running HFS springs long enough to find out how much sag, if any, they will get?
I've had my BDS springs about 2 years and the rear springs are beginning to sag, to the point I've had to use 1 inch lift shackles. I know I need to loose some weight back there, no soap boxes please :D , and I should probably lighten the Cruiser too :rolleyes: . Just curious how they seem to be holding up, I may replace the rear springs if the HFS's hold up better
 
By the way, BDS has a lifetime guarantee, so if your springs are beginning to sag, just have them replace them.

I was doing the same research when I bought my springs, I couldn't decide which to buy, BDS or HFS. I have tried Skyjacker, OldManEmu, Rancho Add-a-Leafs, and custom full length add-a-leafs. I talked to a retailer of BDS about the claim HFS was making about extra long leafs for proper shackle angle. The retailer could not answer my question, so he called BDS direct. BDS stated that they do the same thing when making there springs, add extra length for proper shackle angle. I decided to buy the BDS springs because they were half the price of HFS, I paid $400 for the 4 2.5" lift springs.

By the way, of all the lifts that I have had the BDS rides as good or better than all the rest.

Scott
 
so?

Does BDS make the HFS springs or vice versa? I believe I saw a BDS spring installation instructions link on the CCOT site for their HFS springs.

Does this mean that BDS has 4 and 5" lift springs too?

I'm going to dig around for a link directly to BDS for a little more research.

I definately like the sound of a lifetime warranty and half the price.
 
My springs, which have sagged over a couple of seasons (maybe my 2000lb trailer didn't help) are BDS. Will they really replace them?
 
I think the same factory makes the springs for both BDS and the HFS but they are not the same springs, different design, and I know a bunch of work went into them. I am going to wait a bit to jump on them to see how they last, especially now that Nolen has them! If CCOT will warrentee tham for at least 2 years I would try them out if I was you.
 
They have been holding up great on 40's. Some of the wagon guys have had some sagging, but they admittidly overloaded their rigs, as wagon guys do.

These springs will ride better because they are soft, there are more thin leafs and they have poly bushings.

That said, they are NOT overload springs and if you plan an expedition type rig, you need to spec some special from Alcan for them to survive.

As for the BDS having longer springs, well, the HFS are longer because the BDS are made by the same folks, they just don't have all the bells and whistles CCOT added.

They are great systems, I just know that the HFS springs we had made are longer and have more leafs per pack than BDS because that is what CCOT used to sell before they improved the springs with their HFS line.

As for the "0" lift oned I have on my rock buggy, no sign at all of wear and I have hammered the piss out of them for one year now...............
 
Wish they sold the Zero Lift HFS now. I'd go for a set next.
 
IDave said:
Wish they sold the Zero Lift HFS now. I'd go for a set next.
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I don't know if he is going to persue that or not.

They would be sold a s "stock replacement" and probably have 1" of arch to them.

Mine did and I took out the bottow leaf and they are nice and flat.
 
overload?

Following the expedition/overload direction.

What kind of weight ranges are we looking at here if the HFS are not overload springs?

By stating a spring is not a overload, does this suggest that the springs should not be used for towing a couple of thousand pounds?

Or by stating a spring is not an overload, does this mean that nothing should occupy the Cruiser other than passengers?

Or both?

A FJ 40 only has room for so much to begin with. Should I assume if I do install the HFS springs that I should not load my 40 down then do a little wheeling in it?

I'm not building a strict trail rig right now, but more of a compromise vehicle, kinda like what I think Cruisers are originaly made for but with bigger tires than stock.
 
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