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2001LC said:
Elijah, all kidding aside I really do appreciate your posting these pictures, just as I have all your posts. I have a fairly decent LCD monitor to view these pic on, and I must say; all four 9011's on for a total of 260 watts is very bright, ergo the sun glasses remark ^^.

Nice comparison pic of low beams, the PS 9011 65w which is obvious brighter than the DS stock 9006 51w Low Beam. Am I correct stock "9005" low beam is a typo or was this a earlier mod?

Thanks for the pictures, and if I may be so presumptive; I can't wait to get your subjective view while driving at night and the DRL's in the daylight with your new illuminations in the 100 TLC.
:cheers:
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Yeah, I knew it was all in good fun. This is the internets. :-)
It's difficult to portray differences in light through pictures let alone cell phone pictures, at least for an amateur like me. What folks ought to be realizing is the hard data that some have taken the time to measure and post here. There is no substitute for lumens. There is no special tint or special Kelvin color to overcome lack of lumens either. Imagine going from the stock lows of 1,000 lumens to the HIR highs of 2,300+ lumens, which I'm running in place of the stock low bulbs. The difference is absolutely amazing. I've driven 2 nights for a couple hours now with them. Of course I haven't had any one flash me their highs, and the light just puts a smile on my face while driving at night now. I still need to get the 9011's in my fog lamps and then wait for someone to figure out how to be able to run them at any time. Hurry up on this guys!
I'm not sure how many miles or how old the pair of original 9006 and 9005 had or were.
 
Man I can't wait for my bulbs to get here! Then I can't wait to get flashed while driving down the road on lows! Did I miss the difference between the stock and HIR highs?
 
aaronrules said:
Man I can't wait for my bulbs to get here! Then I can't wait to get flashed while driving down the road on lows! Did I miss the difference between the stock and HIR highs?
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Thanks for the input.
 
Elijah said:
Yeah, ***** I still need to get the 9011's in my fog lamps and then wait for someone to figure out how to be able to run them at any time. Hurry up on this guys!
I'm not sure how many miles or how old the pair of original 9006 and 9005 had or were.
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They're doing some fog with parking light mods over at this thread: Start at post #24 https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series...x-lights-using-factory-fog-light-wires-2.html :banana::wrench::banana:that are interesting.

:idea:These links are very informative, and will aid in designing one's own method of full Fog light control:

Fog/Parking light mod 4 runner:
http://www.top4runners.com/ja/fogmod.html
Fog when you want Tacoma, very educational:
http://www.yotatech.com/f117/fog-light-mod-when-you-want-them-not-just-low-beam-headlights-236696/
Fog/High beam Mod 100:
http://tlcfaq.com/main/2012/04/rewire-your-fog-light-switch-to-work-with-high-beams-on/

I can't wait to see what step by step method emerges, that we can consider as a minor mod for this thread.:confused:
 
Installed the 9012's in the low beams. Took a comparison picture on the camera phone. I am not going to post pic because others already have done so. I am very happy with the results and how cheap it is to do this upgrade. I ordered the 9011 for the high beams. :)

Anyone who has been following this thread should have no doubt that the 9012/9011 are the way to go if you are looking to increase the amount of light output on the stock heads.

Thank you for the advice and data. Stay safe!
 
I just installed the phillips 9012s in the low beams. I spent about 1 minute on each bulb with my best set of dykes and they popped right in. They are a great upgrade over stock and I am very happy with the better lighting now that it is getting dark so much earlier.
 
Elijah said:
******** I will modify the plastic plug on the 9011's to work in the harness where the 9012's would have gone. *****
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:hhmm: Perhaps you will share with us the modification you did & how?
 
1toy said:
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Anyone who has been following this thread should have no doubt that the 9012/9011 are the way to go if you are looking to increase the amount of light output on the stock heads.

Thank you for the advice and data. Stay safe!
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I would agree on the 9011/9012 HIR, that is to say the output in lumen about double that of OEM, color temp Kelvin near match OEM, only a slight increase in wattage +4 & +5 watt respectively, no glare issues reported for diver or oncoming and the reasonable cost.

That said, others have the newest super bright direct replacement bulbs (no mod) that we've yet to hear back from.:crybaby:

Also no one has mentioned the long lift 9012LL, if it should even be consider with it's extra cost.:hhmm:
 
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oftpiste said:
Osram has a new one shipping this month, Nightbreaker Unlimited, claiming to have more light and life them the plus. Just ordered six from powerbulbs.com. If you use the promo code 'loyaltypb' you get a 10% discount.
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Can't wait to see some pictures and your take on these bulbs, did you get the Osram NBU yet?
 
Both of my HIR's died with in 20k miles. They both went out at the same time, one exploded and one just burned out. No more HIR's for me. I know many have had good results with them, but I'm not happy with the end result. The light was better while it lasted, but losing both bulbs at once in a rain storm on the way to MOAB was not fun.
 
CappyKD said:
Both of my HIR's died with in 20k miles. They both went out at the same time, one exploded and one just burned out. No more HIR's for me. I know many have had good results with them, but I'm not happy with the end result. The light was better while it lasted, but losing both bulbs at once in a rain storm on the way to MOAB was not fun.
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This is the first report I've heard of this happening.:eek:

Cappy can you illuminate us, IE.. Which bulbs 9006/9005, used in high or low beam, Philips/bootleg/old Toshiba, on or off road use, any mod's to lighting wiring/SW/relays, how much use time on bulbs etc.........

I shamefully have 13 years on my weakened Sylvania OEM's, but without a problem. Except one taillight & both parking lights (headlight) burned out. Which use of key fab, flashing the parking lights with each use may have contributed to these burnouts.
 
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Sounds more like a potential wiring problem than a bulb problem.
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Nope. Not wiring, one bulb blew and took the other at the same time. Best guess is that the one that exploded took out the other.
 
2001LC said:
This is the first report I've heard of this happening.:eek:

Cappy can you illuminate us, IE.. Which bulbs 9006/9005, used in high or low beam, Philips/bootleg/old Toshiba, on or off road use, any mod's to lighting wiring/SW/relays, how much use time on bulbs etc.........

I shamefully have 13 years on my weakened Sylvania OEM's, but without a problem. Except one taillight & both parking lights (headlight) burned out. Which use of key fab flashing the parking lights with each use may have contributed to these burnouts.
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There are other posts about them exploding, I think in the 80 section and also in the 100 section. These were Toshiba bulbs in the high beams. 20k miles over 2.5 years is what they lasted. No wiring mods, no relays no drl mod.
 
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2001LC said:
Can't wait to see some pictures and your take on these bulbs, did you get the Osram NBU yet?
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Funny you should mention that because I just the other day got an email from powerbulbs.com saying the bulbs had been "dispatched". I hope that doesn't mean they killed them! ;)

I'll make every attempt to be timely and organized enough to make a report that is useful.
 
michaelshin said:
I just ordered Phillips HIR for low, high and fogs. Hope I get some good results. Will carry old ones as spares.
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I think that's the key, it's wise to have a spare even if it's not a bulb that some are reporting to go out prematurely.

As for bulbs taking out the other one when it blows, this recently happened on my mom's Matrix. It really stumped me at first but one was clearly blown and the other just died with it at the same time... I have no other explanation, but I have to believe what Cappy is saying.
 
yotasavg said:
I think that's the key, it's wise to have a spare even if it's not a bulb that some are reporting to go out prematurely.

As for bulbs taking out the other one when it blows, this recently happened on my mom's Matrix. It really stumped me at first but one was clearly blown and the other just died with it at the same time... I have no other explanation, but I have to believe what Cappy is saying.
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I carry a spare low beam bulb, but didn't have a spare high beam. At first I was looking for a common cause, wiring, combo switch etc. CDAN talked me into trying to replace the bulbs and he was spot on. He said he has seen it before where one goes and it takes out the other. They were bright while they lasted!
 
I gather from your posts, both bulb were in one reflector. I suppose shock wave, surge in power, and age could have all been factors.

The Toshiba you were using are now discontinued. They reportedly had 25% less light output than the Philips HIR, which may have been due to thinner filament/materials.

Although any bulb can explode. It's worth mentioning most bulbs come with a warning: "handle with care due to risk of explosion". A little tap on bulb surface prior or during install could have weakened them, just as off road use may have weaken filament/seal/bulb more than would be seen in a mall crawler. Obliviously quality of material, handling and use all factor in a bulb performance, as does over wattage-driving a bulbs to get more output like many of the performance bulbs do.

That said; higher output bulbs don't have the life span of our OEM's. I've seen various claims from 140 to 500 hr's depending on sellers ad's for the Philips HIR & CV, Osram NBU (Slyvania) & Narva. Philips does have a 9012LL (long life) which I've seen claims from 500 to as high as 1000 hr's. These usable life claims have to do with diminished illuminating output, which IIRC is around 80% of new, the bulbs themselves can actually last much longer.

I don't drive much at night so don't use low beams much. On my OEM's I have maybe 400 to 600 hr's on lows, even less on high beams. In my case DRL (highs on 1/2 power) get most use, my Sylvania OEM's are almost 14 yr's old/150K miles, that would be about 2500 hours. So 2.5 yr's would very little use/hour's for me.

All considered; these HIR are still on my short list for High & low beams. Can't wait too see what reviews we get on some of the new high performance bulbs that some here have order.

FWIW: The Philips long life which is from 3 to 5 time more expensive than the standard 9012, presumably have a heavier/thicker filament and/or different material throughout. Some bulbs like the Narva Rally Sport are made for off road (not street legal) and are presumably made to handle the intense vibration & shock.

CappyKD said:
Both of my HIR's died with in 20k miles. They both went out at the same time, one exploded and one just burned out. No more HIR's for me. I know many have had good results with them, but I'm not happy with the end result. The light was better while it lasted, but losing both bulbs at once in a rain storm on the way to MOAB was not fun.
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CappyKD said:
Nope. Not wiring, one bulb blew and took the other at the same time. Best guess is that the one that exploded took out the other.
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CappyKD said:
There are other posts about them exploding, I think in the 80 section and also in the 100 section. These were Toshiba bulbs in the high beams. 20k miles over 2.5 years is what they lasted. No wiring mods, no relays no drl mod.
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CappyKD said:
I carry a spare low beam bulb, but didn't have a spare high beam. At first I was looking for a common cause, wiring, combo switch etc. CDAN talked me into trying to replace the bulbs and he was spot on. He said he has seen it before where one goes and it takes out the other. They were bright while they lasted!
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2001LC said:
I gather from your posts, both bulb were in one reflector. I suppose shock wave, surge in power, and age could have all been factors.

The Toshiba you were using are now discontinued. They reportedly had 25% less light output than the Philips HIR, which may have been due to thinner filament/materials.

Although any bulb can explode. It's worth mentioning most bulbs come with a warning: "handle with care due to risk of explosion". A little tap on bulb surface prior or during install could have weakened them, just as off road use may have weaken filament/seal/bulb more than would be seen in a mall crawler. Obliviously quality of material, handling and use all factor in a bulb performance, as does over wattage-driving a bulbs to get more output like many of the performance bulbs do.

That said; higher output bulbs don't have the life span of our OEM's. I've seen various claims from 140 to 500 hr's depending on sellers ad's for the Philips HIR & CV, Osram NBU (Slyvania) & Narva. Philips does have a 9012LL (long life) which I've seen claims from 500 to as high as 1000 hr's. These usable life claims have to do with diminished illuminating output, which IIRC is around 80% of new, the bulbs themselves can actually last much longer.

I don't drive much at night so don't use low beams much. On my OEM's I have maybe 400 to 600 hr's on lows, even less on high beams. In my case DRL (highs on 1/2 power) get most use, my Sylvania OEM's are almost 14 yr's old/150K miles, that would be about 2500 hours. So 2.5 yr's would very little use/hour's for me.

All considered; these HIR are still on my short list for High & low beams. Can't wait too see what reviews we get on some of the new high performance bulbs that some here have order.

FWIW: The Philips long life which is from 3 to 5 time more expensive than the standard 9012, presumably have a heavier/thicker filament and/or different material throughout. Some bulbs like the Narva Rally Sport are made for off road (not street legal) and are presumably made to handle the intense vibration & shock.
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Both bulbs were High Beam bulbs and are in two different reflectors. My truck is an LX which has four separate lights. Also with the LX, you can only put HIR in the high beams. They are bright but I personally can't justify the Cost v. Performance v. Lifespan, at least in my case where most of the lifespan will be spent at half power and DRLs. If I could put the low beams in I would still do it, but the LX has H1 based projectors so no HIR lows for me.
 
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