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Exiled and I have been discussing steel wheels for the last few months. It hasn't been a huge priority for me since I haven't had a 100. That is changing this week.

I emailed all of the large steel wheel manufacturers.

Right now, the best quote I have is from http://www.trudesignwheel.net/beadlocks.html This is for their modular or D window standard wheel. Look under beadlocks for what they would look like but these are not going to be beadlocks unless you choose to order yours that way. They are $107.20 plus shipping for BARE wheels in a quantity of 13. Their powdercoating is an additional $25/wheel. I don't know what it would cost for chrome although it would be something that I'd probably try just to spite the chrome hating Cruiserheads. Actually, I'm looking at getting them done in silver. Anyway, the $107.20 price is very good if you have done some steel wheel shopping and these are a high quality American made wheel with substantial steel lips. These aren't some made in China about as thin as tinfoil wheels. I am highly doubtful that the price will go down anymore with more people ordering. But I know they would do more at this price at this time. Once they have the machines set up they can do a good run of similar wheels. I'm guesing if you called for a run of 5 it would be much more.

Post up if you are seriously interested. Exiled and I will be ordering ours within the next month. I guess maybe I'll say 2 weeks we will leave it open from today.

Eric V.
 
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Can you post a picture of the wheel. I'm a bit confused which one it is.

Also, what backspacing will be used and what will you do for lug nuts?
 
Tundra steel wheel lugnuts should work. These are the wheels but without the beadlocks.
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you may want to tell folks the size if that matters for the run?

and by memory that is much less than the previously researched US source of steelies (stockton something?) offered.
 
I emailed every steel wheel manufacturer in the US. Stockton was more money and they could only do the Powerwagon style is what their response was. They have to be the most industrial looking ugly wheels around. US wheel said to go jump in a lake, actually they sent me to another dead end.

I asked for 16x8" with 4" backspacing which is less than stock. I calculated stock on the 16x8s to be 4.6" This eliminates the need to ever run spacers in the front. Or should I be going more radical and going to 3.6" backspacing?
 
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dont go too extreme as you might cause the tire to hit the fenders on compression. I have 12+mm offset wheels and 285/75/16 tires rubbed bad on compression.
 
you sure stock is only 4.5" BS? that is indeed the case for the 80 but I thought the 100 was quite a bit more...
 
I am not going to get in on this buy, however I just want to say :cheers: for putting it together. I'm always happy when someone does something like this.

I have 9 stock wheels and an extra set of lug nuts so I'm not about to buy more wheels right now. Not to mention the spacers waiting to get installed;)
 
If you have a Les Schwab tire center near you OR, WA, ID MT and N. Ca they will powder coat for $18 a wheel and have about 12 colors to choose from.


Shane
 
I asked for 16x8" with 4" backspacing which is less than stock. I calculated stock on the 16x8s to be 4.6" This eliminates the need to ever run spacers in the front. Or should I be going more radical and going to 3.6" backspacing?
I think you might be mixing up the 80 series with the 100 series. The 80 series OEM wheel has roughly 4.5" of backspacing. The 100 series wheel has roughly 6.75" of backspacing. I don't have the exact measurement right now though.
 
I think you might be mixing up the 80 series with the 100 series. The 80 series OEM wheel has roughly 4.5" of backspacing. The 100 series wheel has roughly 6.75" of backspacing. I don't have the exact measurement right now though.

i cant believe you still havent found them? What are we to think of our expert 100 series seach and informue leader?
 
I think you might be mixing up the 80 series with the 100 series. The 80 series OEM wheel has roughly 4.5" of backspacing. The 100 series wheel has roughly 6.75" of backspacing. I don't have the exact measurement right now though.

I wasn't mixing them up but I think you are right. I think I used some bad information for my calculation. You can't trust anything on the internet these days. I was thinking to myself that it couldn't be 4.6" because the 100 series wheels seem so flat compared to my 80 series wheels which are more dished. Anyway, I'll hopefully have a 100 home by Sunday and I'll pull a wheel to actually measure it. I'm still hoping to go 1" less backspacing to widen the stance slightly. Is 1" what those of you with spacers are doing? Or should I go 3/4"? What would be ideal? Other than a run with Shott's on Golden Spike a few years ago I have zero experience with 100s other than a casual test drive here and there the last few months.
 
The 16" OEM wheels are J16x8JJ60 with the +60 designating the offset in mm (2-3/8" as mentioned by others) and "positive" indicating the lug nut face of the wheel is moved out from the center of the wheel (away from the hub as opposed to toward the hub).
 
The 16" OEM wheels are J16x8JJ60 with the +60 designating the offset in mm (2-3/8" as mentioned by others) and "positive" indicating the lug nut face of the wheel is moved out from the center of the wheel (away from the hub as opposed to toward the hub).


So does that make the backspacing 6 3/8"?
 
Eric, that should be right. If you measure from a straight edge on the back of the wheel to the mounting surface it is 6 15/16. If you take off the lip (bead) then it should be 6 3/8"

I would say wheels with 3/4" less backspace would be nice. If you go to wide the truck grabs ruts and just does not drive well.
 
Here's the problem with using backspacing... you can have two different wheels with the same offset but measure slightly differently in backspacing. The reason is because a rim's width is measured from inside of flange to inside flange and the width of the flange is dependent on the design. So say the wheel is 16x8, it measures 8" from inside flange to inside flange. Add the width of the flange (commonly 3/8"-3/4") and the total width can be anywhere from 8.75-9.25". A steel wheel often has a smaller flange than an alloy wheel.

A stock 16x8 wheel with a zero offset will have backspacing of roughly 4.5" because the total rim width including the flanges is about 9". 9 divided by 2 equals 4.5"

Add 60mm off positive offset and you have 2-3/8" as stated above. 2-3/8" plus 4.5" equals roughly 6-7/8" of backspacing.

As for how much backspacing is optimal? I think it depends on your tire size choice. IMHO, a 1-1.5" increase in width (per side) would be fine for 285/75-16. But I think those running 315/75-16 and wider might prefer something in the 1/2-3/4" range... or just enough to clear the upper control arms. Again, this is just my opinion. If one is running body lift and other less common mods, then those numbers would probably be different.
 

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