DRL Question on LC

hrc0105 · 05-01-05, 11:58 PM

Just got my '99 LC in January (only 50k miles -

). Is there any way to turn my DRL's off (besides turning the main headlights on)??? The only time that the DRL's won't come on when my car is running is when i have it in park with the parking brake set and i am turning the vehicle on. the DRL's will then come on when the parking brake is released. If i set the parking brake again after it staying on, the DRL's will not turn back off until the car is off. This is very annoying if i am not wanting "to be noticed" like in a parking lot but want to have my car on. is it like this on all landcruisers, or am i having a electrical problem?

spressomon · 05-02-05, 08:10 AM

I have the same question so thanks for asking it! If our Cruisers are the same as other vehicles I have owned/own the dealer has to program this change...

Jukelemon · 05-02-05, 08:42 AM

Hve we tried the FSM for programming instructions?

shocker · 05-02-05, 09:20 AM

I've never really tried this on the LX, but I know on some vehicles that if you lift the emergency brake handle just a click (enough to activate some switch, but not enough to activate the emergency/parking brake itself) the lights go off.

hoser · 05-02-05, 11:00 AM

I ran into this website awhile back. It's the Association of Drivers Against Daytime Running Lights... you guys should join.

Here's your answer:
http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#Toyota

I might as well post the text in case the URL dies:

1999 LEXUS. I did reliably disable the DRL, by uncovering the DRL relay box, under left front kick panel/glove box. Using the wiring manual, identifying the pin/lead to the parking brake switch, cutting the wire and then grounding that pin.

Simply clicking the parking brake 1 notch, will also work, but activates the dash warning light for the brake.

1999 LEXUS. 30A fuses under hood right rear. Unfortunately this disables the high beams altogether.

TOYOTA. From the Toyota technical service bulletin EL011-00 Web site for specific models determine where the module is; either the DRL relay or the body ECU, connector number, pin #. Oct 6,2000.

Land Cruiser 99/00 DRL relay D8 pin 2

-disconnect battery- Then remove the wire with pin attached and tape to the harness. (consider just cut and tape the wire) -check operation- [except the 2000 MY-Avalon, additionally you need to ground the wire at the module end of the cut wire] does anyone know if there is a DRL relay that can be "fixed" ?

Jukelemon · 05-02-05, 01:14 PM

Good information.

But why all the fuss re: the driving lights? The theory is quite sound involving seeing light prior to objects/your vehicle. I know that as a motorcycle driver, I rely HEAVILY on my lights during the day for safety and procative driving.

hoser · 05-02-05, 01:24 PM

I agree, I leave my DRL's on my SUV and sedan for safety since I want to be seen. But in a sportscar, I'd rather not attract attention from the state trooper. Not that I drive reckless... spirited maybe. Those Corvettes with the amber DRL's can be spotted a mile away.

hrc0105 · 05-02-05, 06:37 PM

I think you guys kinda took what I'm asking too far. Yes, I want to have use of my DRL's, especially when driving. I understand the safety of it. I just wish I could turn them off occasionally! My father's 2004 Tundra's DRL's turn off anytime he puts his parking brake on. I think the same goes for my mother's 2005 4Runner, but I'm not quite sure. Basically I was wanting to know if my LC was SUPPOSED to do the same, but obviously not. So now I again inquire if there is a way to do that without going thru the battery and disabling them ??? thanks

spressomon · 05-02-05, 06:57 PM

Yea...it would be nice to be manually in control of the DRLs. My main interest stems from coming out of a hunting spot, etc., at say dusk and wanting to be a little more discreet than broadcasting to everyone where I am via the DRLs. Choices are a good thing eh?

DMX84 · 05-22-05, 03:40 PM

Has anyone figured out where/what the DRL relay looks like? I want to find the connector D8 and pin 2. Anyone with a FSM?

hoser · 05-23-05, 10:12 AM

You can try PM'ing pequiod since he's done the mod already...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pequiod

take a look at http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html. Details 1999/2000 uzj100 daytime running lights disabling procedure from toyota TSB EL011-00. Worked for my 2000 -- I just found the relay location from the service manual, id's the correct wire based on TSB, and uhhh... cut it :-( Maybe applicable to 2004 as well? Dealer might do it right at no charge, as suggested in the old TSB. Relay connector was kind of akward access under the panel below the steering wheel to the left.

ZOX · 05-23-05, 10:15 AM

Really sadIt’s really frustrating for me reading this discussion. I have tried to enable DRL function on my ’99 TLC, and no one in Toyota services around cannot help me. So, does anybody know how to enable DRL function? Does my TLC have this feature?

DMX84 · 05-24-05, 09:00 AM

Check you DTR relay.

ZOX · 05-26-05, 12:44 AM

Where is this DTR relay, and how to check them. Can you explain a bit

CPJONES1231 · 05-26-05, 09:17 AM

I can email you a TSB for disconnecting them , its in PDF format.

DMX84 · 05-26-05, 01:34 PM

I’m checking on it and will post any information that I get. It looks like its behind the panel under the steering wheel.
Dean

CPJONES1231, Can you E-mail them to me also? The link is on my profile.

CPJONES1231 · 05-26-05, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMX84

I’m checking on it and will post any information that I get. It looks like its behind the panel under the steering wheel.
Dean

CPJONES1231, Can you E-mail them to me also? The link is on my profile.

I emailed the file to you at your yahoo account. It wouldnt let me attatch it thru the forum.

Casey

ZOX · 05-26-05, 03:06 PM

Please do on tlc100ace@hi.t-com.hr (email also in my profile) Thanks.

dclee · 05-26-05, 05:56 PM

One thing, most insurance companies will not give you the discount for DRLs if they are user-selectable. Of course, you could just lie to them...

pequiod · 05-28-05, 07:18 AM

lay down on and put your head on the brake pedal and look up underneath the steering wheel column, just to its right. in the mess of wires and to the right of the brake pedal metal assembly (looking up at it) is a black box mounted with a connector on its base. you'll be staring at it. reach up and disconnect the squeeze connector and locate a solid red wire with blue stripe. disable or remove this wire and your DRLs are off. On my pictures it is the only disconnected wire on the connector. if u keep your light switch on Auto, lights will still come on automatically when the detector on your dash senses darkness, etc. hope this helps.

NMuzj100 · 05-29-05, 01:47 AM

I'm glad to see all this interest in improving the fuel economy of our vehicles.

Add this mod to my list of things to do.

spressomon · 07-05-05, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pequiod

lay down on and put your head on the brake pedal and look up underneath the steering wheel column, just to its right. in the mess of wires and to the right of the brake pedal metal assembly (looking up at it) is a black box mounted with a connector on its base. you'll be staring at it. reach up and disconnect the squeeze connector and locate a solid red wire with blue stripe. disable or remove this wire and your DRLs are off. On my pictures it is the only disconnected wire on the connector. if u keep your light switch on Auto, lights will still come on automatically when the detector on your dash senses darkness, etc. hope this helps.

I want to put a on/off switch on this DRL wire. Not being particularly electrical wise...what would you recommend for a switch for this (amperage rating?)? And will I need anything else (fuse, relay, etc.) in line?

DMX84 · 07-05-05, 09:07 AM

I think a small micro switch tapped into the same wire you would normally cut will allow you to turn this on or off. I don’t think there is any amperage to be concerned with, the unit that it’s hooked to is a relay, and the wire in question is just a control wire.

Pskhaat · 10-27-05, 06:20 PM

How about a switch that will turn on the DRL with or without the other headlights on? Obviously this is the lead that is asserted when the headlights are OFF, right?

I'd like to turn them on/off regardless. Thoughts?

spressomon · 10-27-05, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3fj40

How about a switch that will turn on the DRL with or without the other headlights on? Obviously this is the lead that is asserted when the headlights are OFF, right?

I'd like to turn them on/off regardless. Thoughts?

That is how I am setting mine up...I just haven't ordered the switch yet...for now the DRL's are just 'off'.

Pskhaat · 10-27-05, 07:26 PM

Post back what you're doing. Please write up.

spressomon · 10-27-05, 09:23 PM

I just found the DRl wire per the same pictorial that Pequiod listed above...and then will (been too busy with more important mods) put a dash switch (on/off) in between so that I control the DRL manually...

FYI: I just cut the wire in two and taped the ends until such time as I can put the switch in the dash...but for now I don't have DRLs.

mrkool · 10-28-05, 04:27 AM

is DRL also the low beam on a LX470? I want to put HID's in my LX but only if they don't stay on all the time bec that will be way too much attention

spressomon · 10-28-05, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkool

is DRL also the low beam on a LX470? I want to put HID's in my LX but only if they don't stay on all the time bec that will be way too much attention

Don't know for sure about the LX...but on the LC the High beam is the DRL...only when in 'DRL' mode the High beam bulb is supplied with less voltage for DRL's lower light wattage output. I don't know anything about HID's but doubt if it would be good to lower their input voltage?

mrkool · 10-28-05, 12:50 PM

yeah it is not a simple bulb in case of HID's and also they take about 35watts of wattage so cant go much lower then that. Hmmm that will be intersting if some one knew a way around this bec i know i have seen some LX's with after market HID's

05-01-05, 11:58 PM	#1
hrc0105 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 35	DRL Question on LC Just got my '99 LC in January (only 50k miles - ). Is there any way to turn my DRL's off (besides turning the main headlights on)??? The only time that the DRL's won't come on when my car is running is when i have it in park with the parking brake set and i am turning the vehicle on. the DRL's will then come on when the parking brake is released. If i set the parking brake again after it staying on, the DRL's will not turn back off until the car is off. This is very annoying if i am not wanting "to be noticed" like in a parking lot but want to have my car on. is it like this on all landcruisers, or am i having a electrical problem?

05-02-05, 08:10 AM	#2
spressomon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 4,798	I have the same question so thanks for asking it! If our Cruisers are the same as other vehicles I have owned/own the dealer has to program this change... __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM

05-02-05, 08:42 AM	#3
Jukelemon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Georgetown, KY Posts: 1,962	Hve we tried the FSM for programming instructions? __________________ "May you be in heaven a half an hour before the devil knows you're dead" 1992 4x4 PU

05-02-05, 09:20 AM	#4
shocker IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wichita, KS TLCA# 10895 Posts: 1,177	I've never really tried this on the LX, but I know on some vehicles that if you lift the emergency brake handle just a click (enough to activate some switch, but not enough to activate the emergency/parking brake itself) the lights go off. __________________ Ryan Loehr 95 FZJ80 99 LX470 ARB Bull-Bar, Slee Sliders, OME Suspension, DC Front Drive-Shaft, etc. for sale!!!

05-02-05, 11:00 AM	#5
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,729	I ran into this website awhile back. It's the Association of Drivers Against Daytime Running Lights... you guys should join. Here's your answer: http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#Toyota I might as well post the text in case the URL dies: 1999 LEXUS. I did reliably disable the DRL, by uncovering the DRL relay box, under left front kick panel/glove box. Using the wiring manual, identifying the pin/lead to the parking brake switch, cutting the wire and then grounding that pin. Simply clicking the parking brake 1 notch, will also work, but activates the dash warning light for the brake. 1999 LEXUS. 30A fuses under hood right rear. Unfortunately this disables the high beams altogether. TOYOTA. From the Toyota technical service bulletin EL011-00 Web site for specific models determine where the module is; either the DRL relay or the body ECU, connector number, pin #. Oct 6,2000. Land Cruiser 99/00 DRL relay D8 pin 2 -disconnect battery- Then remove the wire with pin attached and tape to the harness. (consider just cut and tape the wire) -check operation- [except the 2000 MY-Avalon, additionally you need to ground the wire at the module end of the cut wire] does anyone know if there is a DRL relay that can be "fixed" ? __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70 Last edited by hoser; 05-02-05 at 11:22 AM.

05-02-05, 01:14 PM	#6
Jukelemon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Georgetown, KY Posts: 1,962	Good information. But why all the fuss re: the driving lights? The theory is quite sound involving seeing light prior to objects/your vehicle. I know that as a motorcycle driver, I rely HEAVILY on my lights during the day for safety and procative driving. __________________ "May you be in heaven a half an hour before the devil knows you're dead" 1992 4x4 PU

05-02-05, 01:24 PM	#7
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,729	I agree, I leave my DRL's on my SUV and sedan for safety since I want to be seen. But in a sportscar, I'd rather not attract attention from the state trooper. Not that I drive reckless... spirited maybe. Those Corvettes with the amber DRL's can be spotted a mile away. __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

05-02-05, 06:37 PM	#8
hrc0105 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 35	I think you guys kinda took what I'm asking too far. Yes, I want to have use of my DRL's, especially when driving. I understand the safety of it. I just wish I could turn them off occasionally! My father's 2004 Tundra's DRL's turn off anytime he puts his parking brake on. I think the same goes for my mother's 2005 4Runner, but I'm not quite sure. Basically I was wanting to know if my LC was SUPPOSED to do the same, but obviously not. So now I again inquire if there is a way to do that without going thru the battery and disabling them ??? thanks

05-02-05, 06:57 PM	#9
spressomon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 4,798	Yea...it would be nice to be manually in control of the DRLs. My main interest stems from coming out of a hunting spot, etc., at say dusk and wanting to be a little more discreet than broadcasting to everyone where I am via the DRLs. Choices are a good thing eh? __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM

05-22-05, 03:40 PM	#10
DMX84 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sandia Park, New Mexico Posts: 858	Has anyone figured out where/what the DRL relay looks like? I want to find the connector D8 and pin 2. Anyone with a FSM? __________________ I may be vile and pernicious But you can't look away I make you think I'm delicious With the stuff that I say I am the best you can get Have you guessed me yet? I am the slime oozin' out From your TV set" *I'm The Slime* by Frank Zappa, 1973 98 Land Cruiser 01 Beta trials bike 71 GMC Shortwide truck

05-23-05, 10:15 AM	#12
ZOX IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 49	Really sadIt’s really frustrating for me reading this discussion. I have tried to enable DRL function on my ’99 TLC, and no one in Toyota services around cannot help me. So, does anybody know how to enable DRL function? Does my TLC have this feature?

05-24-05, 09:00 AM	#13
DMX84 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sandia Park, New Mexico Posts: 858	Check you DTR relay. __________________ I may be vile and pernicious But you can't look away I make you think I'm delicious With the stuff that I say I am the best you can get Have you guessed me yet? I am the slime oozin' out From your TV set" *I'm The Slime* by Frank Zappa, 1973 98 Land Cruiser 01 Beta trials bike 71 GMC Shortwide truck

05-26-05, 12:44 AM	#14
ZOX IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 49	Where is this DTR relay, and how to check them. Can you explain a bit

05-26-05, 09:17 AM	#15
CPJONES1231 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: TN Posts: 260	Drl I can email you a TSB for disconnecting them , its in PDF format.

05-26-05, 01:34 PM	#16
DMX84 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sandia Park, New Mexico Posts: 858	I’m checking on it and will post any information that I get. It looks like its behind the panel under the steering wheel. Dean CPJONES1231, Can you E-mail them to me also? The link is on my profile. __________________ I may be vile and pernicious But you can't look away I make you think I'm delicious With the stuff that I say I am the best you can get Have you guessed me yet? I am the slime oozin' out From your TV set" *I'm The Slime* by Frank Zappa, 1973 98 Land Cruiser 01 Beta trials bike 71 GMC Shortwide truck

05-26-05, 03:06 PM	#18
ZOX IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 49	Please do on tlc100ace@hi.t-com.hr (email also in my profile) Thanks.

05-26-05, 05:56 PM	#19
dclee IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Elk Grove, CA, USA TLCA# 12205 Posts: 1,716	One thing, most insurance companies will not give you the discount for DRLs if they are user-selectable. Of course, you could just lie to them... __________________ Derek Lee `63 Mercedes-Benz UNIMOG (404.115) `64 Mercedes-Benz UNIMOG (404.114) `81 Mercedes-Benz 300GD (460.333) `90 Mercedes-Benz 500SL (R129) `02 Saab 9-5 Aero `04 Toyota Land Cruiser (UZJ100)

05-28-05, 07:18 AM	#20
pequiod IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nicosia, CYPRUS Posts: 35	Pictures of DRL relay, connector, and wire to remove to disable DRL lay down on and put your head on the brake pedal and look up underneath the steering wheel column, just to its right. in the mess of wires and to the right of the brake pedal metal assembly (looking up at it) is a black box mounted with a connector on its base. you'll be staring at it. reach up and disconnect the squeeze connector and locate a solid red wire with blue stripe. disable or remove this wire and your DRLs are off. On my pictures it is the only disconnected wire on the connector. if u keep your light switch on Auto, lights will still come on automatically when the detector on your dash senses darkness, etc. hope this helps. Attached Images

05-29-05, 01:47 AM	#21
NMuzj100 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Gleneagle, CO Posts: 1,846	I'm glad to see all this interest in improving the fuel economy of our vehicles. Add this mod to my list of things to do. __________________ 1998 UZJ100 115K 285/75 Revos, D-light mod, DIY - Starter Contacts 1999 Toyota Camry - So Boring

07-05-05, 09:07 AM	#23
DMX84 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sandia Park, New Mexico Posts: 858	I think a small micro switch tapped into the same wire you would normally cut will allow you to turn this on or off. I don’t think there is any amperage to be concerned with, the unit that it’s hooked to is a relay, and the wire in question is just a control wire. __________________ I may be vile and pernicious But you can't look away I make you think I'm delicious With the stuff that I say I am the best you can get Have you guessed me yet? I am the slime oozin' out From your TV set" *I'm The Slime* by Frank Zappa, 1973 98 Land Cruiser 01 Beta trials bike 71 GMC Shortwide truck

10-27-05, 06:20 PM	#24
Pskhaat IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,925	How about a switch that will turn on the DRL with or without the other headlights on? Obviously this is the lead that is asserted when the headlights are OFF, right? I'd like to turn them on/off regardless. Thoughts? __________________ Scott (Pskhaat) UZJ100, FZJ80

10-27-05, 07:26 PM	#26
Pskhaat IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,925	Post back what you're doing. Please write up. __________________ Scott (Pskhaat) UZJ100, FZJ80

10-27-05, 09:23 PM	#27
spressomon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 4,798	I just found the DRl wire per the same pictorial that Pequiod listed above...and then will (been too busy with more important mods) put a dash switch (on/off) in between so that I control the DRL manually... FYI: I just cut the wire in two and taped the ends until such time as I can put the switch in the dash...but for now I don't have DRLs. __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM

10-28-05, 04:27 AM	#28
mrkool IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22	is DRL also the low beam on a LX470? I want to put HID's in my LX but only if they don't stay on all the time bec that will be way too much attention

10-28-05, 12:50 PM	#30
mrkool IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22	yeah it is not a simple bulb in case of HID's and also they take about 35watts of wattage so cant go much lower then that. Hmmm that will be intersting if some one knew a way around this bec i know i have seen some LX's with after market HID's