Watch this video, LC200 accident

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Hopefully they all packed plenty o these....
:poop::cheers:

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This gonna be the poor drivers ( driving skills ) thread ..?

coz that should be fun ..
 
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How much would have AT tires helped in a situation like that? Was it because his tires had no grip that he lost control? I ask because when I see situations like these it makes me nervous of trying anything esp with a decline.

This situation reminds me of losing control on black ice.

I suspect good AT tires might well have eliminated the problem. The poo hit the oscillating device when he hit the brakes, the tires slid, and he panicked. Put it in 4-lo, 1st gear, start slow, and the AT tires would have slipped less (maybe not at all). If the tires didn’t slip, then he might not have panicked.
 
is engaging CRAWL CONTROL different from 4-LO 1st Gear?

Yes. Very different.
Crawl takes over both accelerator and brakes & all you do is steer (after you select the speed via the dial). 4-Lo is just a reeeally low first gear...so everything is up to you as normal.
 
is engaging CRAWL CONTROL different from 4-LO 1st Gear?

Yes. Very different.
Crawl takes over both accelerator and brakes & all you do is steer (after you select the speed via the dial). 4-Lo is just a reeeally low first gear...so everything is up to you as normal.

Agreed. To be clear, Crawl requires the the vehicle be in 4-Lo to function. It can be in any gear, so long as the transfer case is in 4-Lo. I find it most useful to be in L1 or L2 depending on the desired engine braking/torque/crawl speed. One can still manually brake if desired when under crawl. Yet in a situation like the above, should probably be avoided, with focus on steering.
 
He needed to simply let his rig stay turned into and toward the leftward tip. Instead, he kept letting his fear of rolling left make him try to escape by turning right. WORST thing he could have possibly done.
+ missed the brake pedal after that.
 
+ missed the brake pedal after that.

Ya...but even beyond that...if he’d been in 4-Lo 1, he barely would have needed to brake at all except maybe the top part. All the later drama was because of his initial slide and later speed.

Oh well. :meh: He is super lucky he didn’t roll—although who knows what happened after he disappeared into the trees!?
 
I finally watched the vid after reading the thread. My reaction was "WTH are you doing?" I'm no expert like others on this thread. But clearly this driver did not know what they were doing and then panicked as so many have said. This is why it is so important to learn about both driving in situations like this and learn about your vehicle. The missteps have already been covered. Tires (though I believe the issue was less about tires and more about the actions and reactions of the driver.) Braking rather than using engine compression (4LO, 1st gear as others have pointed out - there are good videos on this on various off roading sites). Steering and the need to always keep the nose pointed down the "fall line". Etc.

The Land Cruisers are incredibly capable trucks. But not so much that you can drive stupid or ignorant. Not to deride anyone but even the best tools need to be understood or they can become dangerous.
 
Early on he needed to turn left. He was way in over his skill. The hill was steeper than the first view makes it. He was behind the car and never caught up.
 
I was in a similar situation as the second guy. Not as steep but wet snow made the grip about the same. Tried to back down and I slid about 6’ with the wheels locked up. Put it in reverse with crawl activated and backed down without a hitch. It does take a leap of faith to take your foot off the brakes and let crawl work when you’re going backwards.
 
. . . Steering and the need to always keep the nose pointed down the "fall line". Etc.

The driver was perfectly positioned for a ski run using the ski's edges, just the wrong application in a 6k lb LC . . .
 
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