WARN winch in cab controls.

[VanGo]

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[cool breeze]

Awaiting your results so i can copy
thanks

 

[sleeoffroad]

Van, I did not go through this while thing. But typically on the switches green / white green is illumination and has nothing to do with the switching. Might help you figure this out.

I see you are selling the relay box and that is fine since we designed it to work with the 80 antenna switch which has the issue that both sides can be pressed at the same time. That said, you could substitute the antenna switch with yours. Once you eliminate the illumination wires, you should have 1 in, 2 out wires (or the other way round). You can then use this just like we do. Then take the ground wire as we show for the switch, and run that through your on/off defrost switch. If you do not have the ON/OFF switch turned on, then nothing would work.

 

[VanGo]

Christo-

Thanks for tech advise! This has been a fun endeavor and I am determined to get it to work. I understand it to be a simple circuit, but when you do not do this type of install everyday it can get a little confusing? Either way, I will be routing wires this weekend in hopes to have it wrapped up soon. I will look at your recommendation a little more carefully and reconsider my use of the relays....although, if I understand you correctly I would loose the illumination of the ON/OFF switch if I do not use the GRN and WHT/GRN? This is a feature that I wanted.... Correct me if this is wrong.

Thanks

Van

 

[VanGo]

Wire color identification with function from the wire harness side as viewed in the attachments, they are as follows:

4Runner rear defrost switch on/off:


[2][X][1]
[5][4][3]


1. Red/Yellow- 12V Power OUT
X. SPACE
2. Red/Blue- 12V Power IN
3. Black- 12V Illumination Power
4. White/Black- Switch Ground
5. Green- Illumination Ground

The momentary 4Runner switch is proving to be a little more difficult for me to determine its functions, and I could use some clarification on how the WARN brown control wire ground is tied into this circuit? Does it occur at the momentary switch? If so, how?

Van

 

[VanGo]

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[sleeoffroad]

Christo-

.although, if I understand you correctly I would loose the illumination of the ON/OFF switch if I do not use the GRN and WHT/GRN? This is a feature that I wanted.... Correct me if this is wrong.

Thanks

Van

I mean they are not use for any of the winch switching. Obviously hook them up to illumindation, but that is a different matter.

 

[VanGo]

Thanks Christo-

I understand what you are saying now, I did not before...this is what keeps me motivated, because I learning what works and what doesn't. Anyway,I appreciate the help.

Van

I mean they are not use for any of the winch switching. Obviously hook them up to illumindation, but that is a different matter.

 

[VanGo]

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[VanGo]

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[cruiserdan]

What, exactly, are you trying to get out of these bumps? I'm aparently missing something.

 

[94SRUNNER]

Dan...Van is merely trying to up his post count

 

[VanGo]

Dan-

I apologize for the ambiguity.... bumps kind of came out of frustration. I am stumped on how to route the grounds through the switches, speicifically: the red WARN motor ground to the solenoid brown WARN ground to complete the circuit. I have the defroster ON/OFF switch figured out, but the 4Runner antenna switch is a little elusive, especially with the 2 grounds. I have an idea that I have yet to try which runs the red ground to the ON/OFF switch and the brown solenoid ground to the antenna switch....stay tuned.

Van

 

[cruiserdan]

Dan-

I apologize for the ambiguity.... bumps kind of came out of frustration. I am stumped on how to route the grounds through the switches, speicifically: the red WARN motor ground to the solenoid brown WARN ground to complete the circuit. I have the defroster ON/OFF switch figured out, but the 4Runner antenna switch is a little elusive, especially with the 2 grounds. I have an idea that I have yet to try which runs the red ground to the ON/OFF switch and the brown solenoid ground to the antenna switch....stay tuned.

Van

If you are trying to retain the floating ground feature I can't help you. If you are not opposed to a permanant ground call me and I'll tell you exactly how I did it.

 

[VanGo]

Thanks Dan. I'll have to give you a call later today. Just out of curiousity, the permanent ground that you are talking about requires soldering the red (winch ground) to the brown ("floating" solenoid ground for a permanent ground? This would not effect the WARN remote and allow the ON/OFF switch to dis-arm the incab IN/OUT switch. Are both in cab switches grounded by the available grounding points? Lastly, the antenna switch this is what I am considering:

This is assuming the function of each location for the antenna switch:

[4][3][2][1]
[7][6][5][4]

1-Green: Brown (Solenoid ground)
2-White/Black: (Ground)
3-Green/White: Brown (Solenoid ground)
4-Blank
5-Red/Green: Green (12V Power IN from solenoid)
6-Blank
7-Red/Green: Black (12V Power OUT from solenoid)
8-Blank

 

[rubberduck]

What if someone just used a old warn remote and took off the handle? Run the wire inside and mate it with the switch. If you want to winch outside unplug it and plug in the other controller.

 

[cruiserdan]

The old three-wire remotes will not operate the newer five-wire solenoid packs.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

The old three-wire remotes will not operate the newer five-wire solenoid packs.

Jump the "floating" ground and it will

 

[cruiserdan]

Exactly my point.

 

[VanGo]

....coming to a close on this project (Much Thanks to CDan and LCPhil). Routed all my control wires and should be finishing all switches and solenoid connections in the next fews days. I will follow up with a brief write up with pictures.

Van