USDM 1995-1997 FZJ80 HALTECH PLUG AND PLAY HARNESS

[Dan1303]

Hi all,

I know this has been a talked about topic and no one seems to produce a plug in kit for USA delivered 80 series.

So i made a prototype and its currently being tested. Full standalone ecu and transmission management via a haltech nexus s3.

I've sold hundreds of these kits for Australian delivered models... I wonder if there is much interest overseas for other models?

 

[Marvelicious]

Well, our emissions are a mess, depending on the state where one lives. I think you'll probably find some folks living in smog-test free states that would be very interested in a plug and play solution that controls both engine and trans, or allows them to switch to a manual transmission without having a glaring check engine light on their dash. Seems like it'd be a great option to take full advantage of a turbo as well. Personally, I'm looking more at the diesel side of things currently, but a couple years back I would have been very interested.

 

[Dan1303]

Well, our emissions are a mess, depending on the state where one lives. I think you'll probably find some folks living in smog-test free states that would be very interested in a plug and play solution that controls both engine and trans, or allows them to switch to a manual transmission without having a glaring check engine light on their dash. Seems like it'd be a great option to take full advantage of a turbo as well. Personally, I'm looking more at the diesel side of things currently, but a couple years back I would have been very interested.

Thanks for the feedback, with new wideband sensors, closed loop fuel control and modern cat systems the motors are generally more efficient and produce less emmisions than factory once dyno tuned. How strict are the laws in these states? If its anything like some states in australia right now we can barely engineer our cars for engine swaps from newer models.

 

[Marvelicious]

Thanks for the feedback, with new wideband sensors, closed loop fuel control and modern cat systems the motors are generally more efficient and produce less emmisions than factory once dyno tuned. How strict are the laws in these states? If its anything like some states in australia right now we can barely engineer our cars for engine swaps from newer models.

I'm fairly sure it wouldn't be an option in California, and a handful of other areas: they don't care if it actually works better, because (and this is my own interpretation) it's not about making existing cars more efficient and cleaner, it's about selling new cars.

That said, I think you'd be fine in most of the country. It's interesting, because for much of the country we have very little oversight of anything mechanical. Some areas are just required to take their car in, plug it in through the OBDII port, and run it while the system sniffs the exhaust, and a handful are a bit more serious. Meanwhile, people tend to find "workarounds", registering their vehicle at an alternate address somewhere that has less strenuous regulations.

As an example, I have never had to have any of my vehicles tested at all, but a person on the other end of the same county - maybe 20 miles closer to Portland - would be unable to use it. I wouldn't let that put you off, it's just something to be aware of. You would definitely want to encourage customers to do their own due diligence. The standard disclaimer is, "for off road use only".

 

[Mag71k5]

Thanks for the feedback, with new wideband sensors, closed loop fuel control and modern cat systems the motors are generally more efficient and produce less emmisions than factory once dyno tuned. How strict are the laws in these states? If its anything like some states in australia right now we can barely engineer our cars for engine swaps from newer models.

You'd have to look state by state, and in some states, they only have emissions based on an area or counties in that state. The hardest on emissions is probably California, then followed by other states like Colorado. I suggest looking up the emissions policies in some of those worse states so you get an idea. However, I'd just leave it up to the Buyer to handle and put that in a disclaimer when they go to purchase.

 

[EWheeler]

I would say that people who modify things in a manner such as wanting/needing a new ECU, will generally find ways around their local smog rules, if they exist. I doubt many folks would only update the ECU without other necessitating mods (turbo, supercharger, transmission swap)?

 

[HemiAlex]

This product is gold. For Texas and no emissions in my county, would be perfect.

 

[Dragos80]

States which have adopted the CARB rule (California Air Resource Board) will need a visual inspection, OBD2 clean read out (all monitors ready), no check engine light on, and a dynamic test.
A turbo present in the engine bay would be an automatic fail.
Now there are people in these states who may make it work in one way or another.

In case anyone cares about it.

Unfortunately the CARB states have a lot of cars and possibly a high percentage of 80's as well. So a lot of the clients would be more or less alienated from the goodies others enjoy freely.

 

[Dragos80]

 

[Marvelicious]

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That map is a little misleading. Many of those states only do testing in their metro areas, and they don't all follow the same rules for the age of the vehicle, or how it's interpreted and tested, etc. Like I said above, I live in Oregon and have never had to have a vehicle tested.

 

[Mag71k5]

That map is a little misleading. Many of those states only do testing in their metro areas, and they don't all follow the same rules for the age of the vehicle, or how it's interpreted and tested, etc. Like I said above, I live in Oregon and have never had to have a vehicle tested.

Yup, Colorado is a perfect example. Black Border = Gas Emissions, Red = Diesel. The rest of the state no one cares about emissions testing.

 

[Dragos80]

That map is a little misleading. Many of those states only do testing in their metro areas, and they don't all follow the same rules for the age of the vehicle, or how it's interpreted and tested, etc. Like I said above, I live in Oregon and have never had to have a vehicle tested.

Some areas in CA don't require smog check either. So there's that.

 

[Marvelicious]

Some areas in CA don't require smog check either. So there's that.

Ah, I thought it was statewide there. Then again, I thought it was a larger area of Oregon, but it's only the Portland area back to 1975 and Medford if it's less than 20 years old. It illustrates my point though: it's seemingly random, so it's much safer to insist the customer does some of their own homework, It can't be any fun going through all the work on a project (say, an engine swap), only to discover later that you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to register it... I'm sure someone in this thread knows what I'm talking about.

 

[efjayatee]