Trip Meter it Stops

[landtoy80]

I see what the problem is.
The trip meter reset arm is broken, see the yellow arrow, it shows where it should be attached.
There is a gear off the odmeter that turns the gears on the trip meter. The arm connects the reset to the gears. Every time I pushed the reset button, the gears would move around and sometimes get lodged in the odmeter gear and stop the odmeter (thus the reason the odmeter stopped working)

I think I could glue it with something but getting it back together would be a nother thing.
I would have to take the back of the speedo meter apart.
The back is a circuit board. It has some electronic thing that makes the speedo arm turn. I think I can just remove the circuit board BUT if there is some brushes in there I don't know if I could get it back together.

I might be able to reinstall the trip meter gears if I remove the face plate but I can't get the speedo pointer to pop off. I don't want to brake it pulling it off.

As it is now, I could just reinstall the speedo meter without replacing the trip meter reset and trip meter gears.
I wouldn't have a trip meter any more but the odmeter would still work.

 

[semlin]

kurt, for now I would put it back together. years of taking small appliances apart for fun tells me you are at the point where it is not engineered for dissaessmbly and you will break something because there is something unanticipated. Either buy a new speed or I would go look in a junk yard for a similar speedo head off say a 1993 2nd generation 4runner or something else from mr. t that has an electric speedo cable. practice taking that apart. Hopefully it will have the same mechanism and gear inside so once you figure out how to take it apart you can get the gear off that one and safely dissassemble the cruiser.

 

[landtoy80]

I was worried about the oil residue on the circuit board.
Do you think it will cause a short?
I would hate to short out the whole dash.

 

[landtoy80]

Took a chance (the wifey wants her vehicle) and put it back together and all is well, soooo far.
The speedo and odmeter works.

 

[landtank]

I chose that cleaner as it is made to come in contact with circuit boards without shorting. The typical uase is to just spray that stuff into a rotary tuner blindly while rtating the tuner to clean the contacts. I wouldn't worry about the oil in there. On mine I was worried about something breaking in there prior to the cleaning as I was pushing and pulling the reset arm quite forcefully trying to get it to reset.

 

[landtoy80]

I was sure it was a dielectric type grease but couldn't find any info on the RC site.
I did some testing to see if its conductive and I found it not to be conductive with 12V.

 

[landtoy80]

After 11 years and 184,000 mi, I finally got the trip meter fixed.
Very easy to swap out the trip meter, it just snaps into the speedo.
Remove speedo, remove speedo needle, remove face plate, unsnap trip meter, snap in the used one and reassemble.


BIG THANKS to slow95z for the trip meter!!!!!

While I had the speedo apart, I moved the needle up a hair so that the speedo reads a hair faster than I am driving. It was always reading just a hair slower than my actual speed.

 

[Wayne]

Kurt, I have exactly the same problem with my trip meter. It'll reset okay, but will only get up to 3 miles before it hangs up. I'm tempted to try the RS Cleaner Lube spray and see if it well free it up. How did you find the new trip meter you got from slow95z? I'd replace mine if is could find a replacement.

 

[landtoy80]

On mine, a plastic gear got hung up and broke. Send slow95z a message, I think he has more speedo clusters.

I found it by posting a want add in the wanted in the classified section of IH8Mud.

You can see the trip meter just snaps in.

 

[Wayne]

Thanks a lot Kurt, I send slow95z a PM. The pics are a great help, thanks.

 

[vegasfj40]

Anyone else try this repair? Cant see the rest of the pics. Is there another vehicle that shares the trip meter with the 80?

 

[Inukshuk]

I did mine a few weeks back. I was able to source from donor 80's but I was also wondering about other vehicles. I have to think similar year camry's and pickups will be the same.

Needle popped off smoothly. Don't be scared. Its just a sung fit on a smooth shaft. Go slow on it all and you'll be fine..

Note: I clipped off the little "detent" on the end of the plunger. I think that's why we break these. The tactile feedback is not needed.

 

[thelal]

looking for trip unit if anyone has one, mines broken

 

[Inukshuk]

looking for trip unit if anyone has one, mines broken

Is it easy to ship to you? I'll find you one!

 

[thelal]

just got mine out (as taken full dash out - as part of fixing aerial and coax that didn't want to move ... don't ask).
Anyone got a donor?

 

[Inukshuk]

just got mine out (as taken full dash out - as part of fixing aerial and coax that didn't want to move ... don't ask).
Anyone got a donor?

nope. I'll bet similar era toyotas would have the trip ODO you need

 

[thelal]

will check that, cheers

 

[60wag]

Hey, any luck on finding other trip odometers that'll fit in a '96 FZJ80? It looks like folkes with '93 and '94 Cruisers with the mechanical speedo cable have broken trip odometers, so those might be the same. Anyone have a broken trip odo on a '91 or '92 FJ80? Curious if those might fit.

The picture is of a 96 Camry speedo. The reset button is centered on the trip odo so I doubt this would useful.

 

[80t0ylc]

Hey, any luck on finding other trip odometers that'll fit in a '96 FZJ80? It looks like folkes with '93 and '94 Cruisers with the mechanical speedo cable have broken trip odometers, so those might be the same......

My '94 doesn't have the mechanical speedometer that you're talking about. It has the gear and sensor that sends pulses to the odometer in the instrument panel & ECU electronically. I had to replace the gear & sensor assy after it stripped out at about 275K miles on the way back to OR from Baja in Jan '17. Cold weather started in Flagstaff and I had miserable roads and weather the rest of the way home. It sucked because the ECU uses speedometer input and I got even worse gas mileage than normal. And occasionally I'd have to pull over & shut off the engine to reset the ECU due to some weird problems that would crop up. Running poor, loss of power, idle issues at traffic signals & even occasionally the engine would just die. Not a real confidence builder to make it home.

I guess my point is that even if your odometer doesn't work, you still need at least the input to the ECU for your truck to run normally, if you don't have the mechanical cable.

 

[60wag]

With some more digging, I found the Toyota parts diagram below. Looks like the 8311060381 speedometer assembly covers 8/92 to 8/96. I assume this has the pulsed electronic input. Not sure what changed for the later 8322060120. Anyone out there have a 92 FJ80 with a 3FE and an electronic speedo?

When looking at used speedo clusters on ebay, I thought the 130mph speedo gauge was the FZJ80 and the 110mph was the earlier FJ80. Any confirm this?