Third front diff broken.

[ShottsUZJ100]

However I have tried it in deep snow and it works, but when you get a little out of control the stability control shuts the gas down. Not fun. Wish I could turn it off.

Bottom line, with all the front diffs we see that break, I would go ARB on the front and not be afraid to use it.

Yes, yes....right on....situations differ. On ice here in AZ I could move locked. I'd slide sideways out of control. With TRAc I could even HIT the gas and move and move controlled.

Again....bottom line....you can add ARB LOCKERS but not TRAC.

 

[ChuckB]

Shotts and Christo, thanks good points.

 

[hoser]

When replacing the torsion bars and rear springs on the lx470 you need to reset the lowest setting. What we did is mark the sensors when the truck was on it's lowest setting, then install the new torsion bars and springs. Adjusting the torsion bars so we have a 1/2" rake or so. Then reset the sensors to the marked settings for this new "lowest" mode.

Thanks, Christo--sounds like a good way to do it.

 

[ats4x4dotcom]

We do a mod to the front diffs to make them stronger in 80 an 105, and 100 could be done same way, most important is to fit an ARB locker, because the carrier is so much stronger, it stops the crownwheel being able to flex away from the pinion, which normally causes the breakage in the front diff.

We fit a solid pinion spacer also, so that there can be no movement of the pinion, and we machine it so it takes on the whole bearing face, including the raised section that keeps the rollers in line.

Done 40 odd diffs now, and had 3 back with broken cv's but none with broken crownwheels, or pinions, most of which were when they came here to be fixed.

 

[tabraha]

When your rear is locked your center is too (on a '99). This will make it hard to turn and increase the radius up these.

John, Christo, anyone with the answer...

Obviously being in an LX I have no rear locker. Eventually dual ARB's will be the case. In a 100 with an ARB rear, as opposed to the factory E-locker, wouldn't it be completely possible to run the rear locked and the center unlocked? Obviously I'd love to have TRAC too but I don't, and I ain't tradin' to get it either. Just curious as I thought that when I get the FR/RR ARB setup I'd have 3 autonomous lockers, which a 100 with the factory e-locker would not have the ability to do b/c you have to lock-up the center to use the e-locker. Is that correct?

Tad

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

John, Christo, anyone with the answer...

Obviously being in an LX I have no rear locker. Eventually dual ARB's will be the case. In a 100 with an ARB rear, as opposed to the factory E-locker, wouldn't it be completely possible to run the rear locked and the center unlocked? Obviously I'd love to have TRAC too but I don't, and I ain't tradin' to get it either. Just curious as I thought that when I get the FR/RR ARB setup I'd have 3 autonomous lockers, which a 100 with the factory e-locker would not have the ability to do b/c you have to lock-up the center to use the e-locker. Is that correct?

Tad

Yes sir. You'll be able to lock the ARB rear and still lock or unlock the center. Sweet! It doesn't alsways come into play but it's a big help in some certain tight spots to run center UL.

 

[spressomon]

John, Christo, anyone with the answer...

Obviously being in an LX I have no rear locker. Eventually dual ARB's will be the case. In a 100 with an ARB rear, as opposed to the factory E-locker, wouldn't it be completely possible to run the rear locked and the center unlocked? Obviously I'd love to have TRAC too but I don't, and I ain't tradin' to get it either. Just curious as I thought that when I get the FR/RR ARB setup I'd have 3 autonomous lockers, which a 100 with the factory e-locker would not have the ability to do b/c you have to lock-up the center to use the e-locker. Is that correct?

Tad

Wrong...with a little simple electrical work ["9-pin mod" and the 4H rr diff bypass...thanks to Augie (where has Augie been lately anyway???)] you can run the CDL independently of rr e-locker and both in 4H or 4L.

 

[5151broadway]

That is not true. It all depends on what you replace it with and how you set up the sensors. You can still have AHC with different torsion bars.

We just two LX470's with Sahara bumpers and winches. In both cases we did not have to change the suspension. The truck leveled out and drove fine. We used 9000 and 9500 winches. One truck got a roof rack, the other rear bumper and sliders.

Hey,

This quote from me is a direct quote from someone at Slee. I was told that I could NOT install the new stronger EMU front torsion on my LX470 without loosing AHC which would require a new suspension.

So, give it to me straight.

George

 

[sleeoffroad]

Hey,

This quote from me is a direct quote from someone at Slee. I was told that I could NOT install the new stronger EMU front torsion on my LX470 without loosing AHC which would require a new suspension.

So, give it to me straight.

George

It depends on how capable you are with setting up the AHC and messing with the sensors. In general, if you are not, you can not just throw a set of OME torsion bars on there and let it be.

It all depends on the weight of the accessories, how much you adjust the torsion bars and how you set the sensors. So, yes, it can be done. However you have to understand that to just tell someone it can be done with no other setup or modifications is not a good thing.

If you installed the OME torsion bars, and did nothing else, the height sensors would be confussed and you would effectively loose the AHC.

A lot of times for most people if they do not understand the AHC system or can mess with it, they would be better off to rip that stuff out and go to a fixed suspension, especially if some of the components have already failed.

 

[tabraha]

Wrong...with a little simple electrical work ["9-pin mod" and the 4H rr diff bypass...thanks to Augie (where has Augie been lately anyway???)] you can run the CDL independently of rr e-locker and both in 4H or 4L.

Gotcha. I knew you could run the CDL independently. I thought that mod's purpose was for over-riding the T-case goofiness only. I didn't realize after that mod you could select the RR without engaging the CDL.

 

[5151broadway]

It depends on how capable you are with setting up the AHC and messing with the sensors. In general, if you are not, you can not just throw a set of OME torsion bars on there and let it be.

It all depends on the weight of the accessories, how much you adjust the torsion bars and how you set the sensors. So, yes, it can be done. However you have to understand that to just tell someone it can be done with no other setup or modifications is not a good thing.

If you installed the OME torsion bars, and did nothing else, the height sensors would be confussed and you would effectively loose the AHC.

A lot of times for most people if they do not understand the AHC system or can mess with it, they would be better off to rip that stuff out and go to a fixed suspension, especially if some of the components have already failed.

My mechanic, Steve, has been working on my asian cars for almost 20 years. He can do whatever necessary to install the new torsion bars that you sell for the LX470. He might need a phone consult, but that's about it.

I want to have those rock sliders and rear bumper. When will the sliders be done? I'll be your first customer and take pics for the list.


Also, I found an experienced ARB diff man out here in Tucson. Send me a private email to darling18@comcast.net for a price quote on your sliders, rear bumper, and ARB's front and rear. Include ALL necessary switches, best airlines, etc.

Thanks,

George

 

[sleeoffroad]

My mechanic, Steve, has been working on my asian cars for almost 20 years. He can do whatever necessary to install the new torsion bars that you sell for the LX470. He might need a phone consult, but that's about it.

The install of the torsion bars are not the issue, it is the adjustment of the AHC. Also, the OME torsion bars may be more than you need. You might be better off with a set of used ones from a 100 Series LC/

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

My mechanic, Steve, has been working on my asian cars for almost 20 years. He can do whatever necessary to install the new torsion bars that you sell for the LX470. He might need a phone consult, but that's about it.

I want to have those rock sliders and rear bumper. When will the sliders be done? I'll be your first customer and take pics for the list.


Also, I found an experienced ARB diff man out here in Tucson. Send me a private email to darling18@comcast.net for a price quote on your sliders, rear bumper, and ARB's front and rear. Include ALL necessary switches, best airlines, etc.

Thanks,

George

George: Who's you ARB guy in Tucson? Look at this mornings post about mine. I posted to the 80 forum thinking there'd be more ARB locker folks in there. Here: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=62146

 

[5151broadway]

George: Who's you ARB guy in Tucson? Look at this mornings post about mine. I posted to the 80 forum thinking there'd be more ARB locker folks in there. Here: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=62146

It's Lloyds Transmission and Drivetrain in Tucson, AZ. 571-0939. They have done quite a few of these.

George

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

It's Lloyds Transmission and Drivetrain in Tucson, AZ. 571-0939. They have done quite a few of these.

George

Thanks. I'll note this. Turned out to be a loose bolt on the air tank. 2 minute fix.