The Great ONSC Gun Thread

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elkaholic said:
^ Purge and Sig should NEVER be used in the same sentence. Then again, I have a 716 that I am considering purging due to the current pricing :rolleyes:

I have too much steel to fit until I upgrade safes:grinpimp:

I am going to be selling one of my Kimber 1911s to buy a different Kimber 1911. We shall see what the prices are going these days :grinpimp:

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which kimber are you selling.
 
Yukon LX said:
which kimber are you selling.

An Eclipse II out of their custom shop, I'm going to replace it with either a Pro TLE II or a Super Carry Pro HD to get me a commander length 1911. I shoot my Colt almost exclusively and the Kimber kind of is a safe queen.

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very cool. Kimbers are sooo pretty. A buddy of mine has a couple Raptors, very nice.
 
Question for the lady shooters here. Have you shot both 9mm and .40? If so, how did you handle the recoil of the .40 v the 9mm. I am looking at picking up a "shared" gun for my wife and i.
 
Yukon LX said:
Question for the lady shooters here. Have you shot both 9mm and .40? If so, how did you handle the recoil of the .40 v the 9mm. I am looking at picking up a "shared" gun for my wife and i.

I think depends on the pistol. A full size .40's recoil will be manageable as opposed to a compact or sub compact. When I shot my P226 versus my G27 you can tell the sub compact gub is a little more "snappy" compared to the full size P226.

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Question for the lady shooters here. Have you shot both 9mm and .40? If so, how did you handle the recoil of the .40 v the 9mm. I am looking at picking up a "shared" gun for my wife and i.

Being that I'm quite a lady, I'll chime in...

Much has to do with the load being shot and the balance of the handgun. Shooting the same 9mm round out of the 3, 9mm handguns I have gives a different "experience".

To my hands, the 9mm is "sharp" (particularly in a +P), where the .45 is a nice "slow punch" with the .40 being a combination of the 2. In matches I shoot (ISPC/USPSA), there is a mininum power factor (feet/sec X bullet mass x .001) and I'd rather shoot the .40 at the same PF than the 9mm.

One of the worst mistakes a friend made when buying a handgun for his wife, buying a "ladies model" that equalled lighter. This induced more energy into the shooter, making the ladies gun shoot much harsher than the same rounds in the "normal" gun of the same model.

You know the advise, take her out, let her shoot it and let her pick it out, if you want her to shoot with you. One thing I learned a long time ago, if you want your spouse/daughter to participate with you, make sure they feel like they have a "technical" advantage (better bike, pistol, skis, etc) instead of a "lesser" model...
 
Question for the lady shooters here. Have you shot both 9mm and .40? If so, how did you handle the recoil of the .40 v the 9mm. I am looking at picking up a "shared" gun for my wife and i.

I have the Walther ppq 40; my 11 yo daughter shoots a Walther 22 - is that a close enough comparison in terms of kick? Im not sure..BUT in terms of females -

1. Does she want to shoot or do you want her to?

Sounds silly - but I dont know you or your wife and a shared gun for the both of you comes down to "if mama aint happy, nobodys happy" If she wants to shoot, or has shot before and is comfortable; then the kick of a 40cal is not a big deal.

If she's skittish and liable to stay nervous with a handgun, but you want her to at least be comfortable, my daughter shoots a 22 and absolutely loves it..I shot the 22; being used to the 40 - I wasnt comfortable with zero kick on the 22 :D I like a little punch. I dont shoot to piss people off, if I raise my gun - I aim to kill - plain and simple - and IMO a 40 cal has more stopping power. The dynamics of the gun (stop me if Im wrong) have a lot more to do with how a 'kick' translates and with my Walther- its smooth. IDK how to put that into technical terms.

Take her to the range where you can rent a weapon and let her try different types . When we went to get mine at the Raleigh Gun Show I had it narrowed down to 3 in particular. The second I held the walther - I was in love...and that affection turns to confidence when I look down the sights..the results would be completely different if Id let the huz choose for me :D

Hope that helps.
 
thanks for all the good advice.

to Charity, the issue is the she DOES want to shoot it and learn how to protect herself. Which i think is great. The problem is, that i had already picked out, fallen in love with the gun i wanted. I have been around guns since childhood, however, she has not. She has never even fired a pistol. I know i need to get her to the range, but i appreciate the preliminary advice. Right now i am looking at the Glock 22, 17, and 19.
 
How many of the ladies can pull the slide back and release it?

one thing some ladies have problems with is pulling back the slide or releasing the slide. so there for the gun is useless. My princess will be getting a revolver. probably a .38
 
thanks for all the good advice.

to Charity, the issue is the she DOES want to shoot it and learn how to protect herself. Which i think is great. The problem is, that i had already picked out, fallen in love with the gun i wanted. I have been around guns since childhood, however, she has not. She has never even fired a pistol. I know i need to get her to the range, but i appreciate the preliminary advice. Right now i am looking at the Glock 22, 17, and 19.

U sound like the huz...get her her own if you want her to love it and want her to believe in the weapon she has chosen..its quite empowering to a woman.
If you 'share', it will always be yours - no matter what..sounds funny I suppose.
You know I've said the huz is gay for Glock - but I absolutely detest the feel of ever single one of them. I walk onto the range with the gun that I chose, I clean, and the furniture I want is on it.
Tell me if I'm being to girly about this!

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How many of the ladies can pull the slide back and release it?

one thing some ladies have problems with is pulling back the slide or releasing the slide. so there for the gun is useless. My princess will be getting a revolver. probably a .38

"the slide trouble" regardless of glock or walther has more to do with conditioning the woman..I sit on the couch and practice - just because I wanna. Its not about strength - its about being comfortable with it...and muscle memory; ease of use comes from repetition.

**nothing I say is not intended to offend anyone elses' choice-its my opinion:D
 
An <snip> I'm going to replace it with either a Pro TLE II or a Super Carry Pro HD to get me a commander length 1911.

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Both of those are very nice. Also look at the Sig 1911 Nightmare Carry .... very, very nice piece. Commander length with a round heel that minimizes print through while carrying and stainless frame for longevity :grinpimp:
 
i would love to get us both one, and will at some point. However, right now the 100 needs a new rack and new suspension, thus, putting a hurting on the check book. We are going to head to the range this weekend and go from there i guess. The 10 round DC mags are going to be about as cool as cancer.
 
BTW Sarca, the PPQ 40 is a very nifty gun.
 
i guess i am old school, my CC is a hammerless sp101. it is just simplicity with attitude, Nothing to think about, just point and shoot.
 
BigFisher said:
You can't trust a 1911 w/ an external extractor:flipoff2:

A sacrilege according to the original design by John Moses Browning.

The gospel according to Sir Browning

1 In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."
2 "And shouldst thou muck with it, and hang all manner of foul implements upon it, and profane its internal parts, thou shalt surely have malfunctions, and in the midst of battle thou shalt surely come to harm."
3 And as the ages passed men in their ignorance and arrogance didst forget the word of the Lord and began to profane the 1911. The tribe of the gamesman did place recoil spring guides and extended slide releases upon the 1911 and their metal smiths didst tighten the tolerances and alter parts to their liking, their clearness of mind being clouded by lust.
4 Their artisans did hang all manner of foul implements upon the 1911 and did so alter it that it became impractical to purchase. For lo, the artisans didst charge a great tax upon the purchasers of the 1911 so that the lowly field worker could not afford one. And the profaning of the internal parts didst render it unworkable when the dust of the land fell upon it, and these profaners didst try and fit more rounds of ammunition into the magazines than the holy number of seven, appointed for the .45.
5 And lo, they didst install adjustable sights, which are an abomination unto the Lord. For they doth break and lose their zero when thou dost need true aim. And those who have done so will be slain in great numbers by their enemies in the great battle.
6 And it came to pass that the Lord didst see the abomination wrought by man and didst cause, as he had warned, fearful malfunctions to come upon the abominations and upon the artisans who thought they could do no wrong.
7 Seeing the malfunctions and the confusion of men, the lord of the underworld did see an opportunity to further ensnare man and didst bring forth pistols made of plastic, whose form was such that they looked and felt like a brick, yet the eyes of man being clouded, they were consumed by the plastic pistol and did buy vast quantities of them.
8 And being a deceitful spirit, the lord of the underworld did make these plastic pistols unamenable to the artisans of earth and they were unable to muck much with the design, and lo these pistols did appear to function.
9 And the evil one also brought forth pistols in which the trigger didst both cock and fire them and which require a "dingus" to make them appear safe.
10 But man being stupid did not understand these new pistols and didst proceed to shoot themselves with the plastic pistol and with the trigger cocking pistols for lo their manual of arms required great intelligence which man had long since forsaken. Yet man continue to gloat over these new pistols blaming evil forces for the negligent discharges which they themselves had committed.
11 And when man had been totally ensnared with the plastic pistol, the lord of the underworld didst cause a plague of the terrible Ka-Boom to descend upon man and the plastic pistols delivered their retribution upon men. And there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in the land.
12 Then seeing that the eyes of man were slowly being opened and that man was truly sorrowful for his sinful misdeeds, the Lord did send his messengers in the form of artisans who did hear and obey the teachings of the prophet and who didst restore the profaned 1911s to their proper configuration, and lo, to the amazement of men they didst begin to work as the prophet had intended.
13 And the men of the land didst drive out the charlatans and profaners from the land, and there was joy and peace in the land, except for the evil spirits which tried occasionally to prey on the men and women of the land and who were sent to the place of eternal damnation by the followers of John.


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"the slide trouble" regardless of glock or walther has more to do with conditioning the woman..I sit on the couch and practice - just because I wanna. Its not about strength - its about being comfortable with it...and muscle memory; ease of use comes from repetition.

**nothing I say is not intended to offend anyone elses' choice-its my opinion:D

The average women (my wife probably Parker's )is not going to do that.
 
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