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Wow, nice work getting everybody out. Looks like a rough weekend .
Ok, in the hopes of shedding more light on my problem, I have taken off the inspection cover again and taken a few pics in hopes that somebody sees something. As well, I bled the clutch and put in new fluid and now when I "pump" up the clutch to where I feel pressure, it hear a small "grinding" noise.
And the last carnage pic.
So, in pic 3 I would think that because the clutch disc and the pressure plate are not tight that the throw-out bearing in pic 4 would be further into the pressure plate. I assume that the clutch pedal was not depressed while you took the pics. Try the same pics again with the peddle down.
And that rocker, it'll buff out.
And that rocker, it'll buff out.
super odd that the clutch pressure plate isn't engaged.... it should failed clutched in my thinking. the lever and pressure plate load the disc until you press the pedal....be nice to get some action video of the pedal being pumped and what happens underneath...tough to do solo...
HoffLarr - that rocker would pull out nicely with a come-a-long anchored to something stout and a piece of bar stock to spread the force out over a wider area so you don't kink it while pulling.
Mine are all beat up too. I'm going to fix them this winter and build some very simple sliders. I've hit a few rocks with them but usually I push it in when I fall into a rut sideways.
Mine are all beat up too. I'm going to fix them this winter and build some very simple sliders. I've hit a few rocks with them but usually I push it in when I fall into a rut sideways.
Is there maybe something stopping the pressure plate from sliding/springing/applying pressure to the clutch disc? Mud in the spring tines or seized dowels that the pressure plate slides in and out on? That would explain the floppy pedal syndrome you have maybe?
I like this idea.
There would still be some feel to the pedal if this was the case, and I can get a good feel in the pedal if I pump it a couple of times.
Larry, maybe try prying the movable part of the pressure plate.
I'd do it myself but Stampede stuff is happening and I'll be in no condition to work on my truck when I get home tonight.
I took a video when the clutch is depressed and there is no movement when the clutch is pushed in and out slowly. When the clutch is "pumped" then there is some movement of the pressure plate, but just a bit.
I also tried to take off the master cylinder to see if it got pooched by dirty water flooding it, but the one bolt is so close to the brake booster I can't get a wrench or socket on it. Tried adjusting the slave rod, but that also had no effect. and tried washing out any gunk again and although it looked like some debris came out, it did not solve the problem.
I guess I will have to remove the clutch damnit!
Oh well, I guess this will be a good opportunity to also add the PTO gear to my transfer case.
I also tried to take off the master cylinder to see if it got pooched by dirty water flooding it, but the one bolt is so close to the brake booster I can't get a wrench or socket on it. Tried adjusting the slave rod, but that also had no effect. and tried washing out any gunk again and although it looked like some debris came out, it did not solve the problem.
I guess I will have to remove the clutch damnit!
Oh well, I guess this will be a good opportunity to also add the PTO gear to my transfer case.
Good info Larry, despite it being bad news.
I won't get to mine for a while but maybe next week I will be able to remove the inspection cover and at least get a look.
I did the clutch on mine several years ago. It's not a trivial operation.
I won't get to mine for a while but maybe next week I will be able to remove the inspection cover and at least get a look.
I did the clutch on mine several years ago. It's not a trivial operation.
Larry, back off the pressure plate bolts that bolt it to the flywheel. See if you can't get that gap to open up a bit, wash it again, turn the motor over and inspect for debris. There has to be something jammed in there, or the diaphram spring is shot in the pressure plate. I have a spare center force set if you need.
I guess it's worth a try.
No Dice!
Seats, tank and hump removed in preparation of transmission removal.
Seats, tank and hump removed in preparation of transmission removal.
So I got the transmission out yesterday and found the problem.
I got trees growing in my clutch!
I noticed when I was working on the truck yesterday that there is no cover on the right side of the bellhousing and that is how the twig got in there. My memory or the "incident" is also vague, but as I recall, I had the clutch depressed the whole time I was in there since I didn't want the engine to stall. Lesson learned.
Now, what are all your opinions on where I should go from here? I'm thinking it would be better to remove the whole clutch assembly and clean it up and inspect it, but this SST has got me concerned as it is not really clear what it is or how to use it. But I]m sure one of you guys knows.
Also while I have everything apart, I'm going to do my rear pinion seal which was leaking like a bugger before I left, and now does not leak at all. I guess mud makes a good sealant. and I am going to install the PTO gear into the transfer.
I got trees growing in my clutch!
I noticed when I was working on the truck yesterday that there is no cover on the right side of the bellhousing and that is how the twig got in there. My memory or the "incident" is also vague, but as I recall, I had the clutch depressed the whole time I was in there since I didn't want the engine to stall. Lesson learned.
Now, what are all your opinions on where I should go from here? I'm thinking it would be better to remove the whole clutch assembly and clean it up and inspect it, but this SST has got me concerned as it is not really clear what it is or how to use it. But I]m sure one of you guys knows.
Also while I have everything apart, I'm going to do my rear pinion seal which was leaking like a bugger before I left, and now does not leak at all. I guess mud makes a good sealant. and I am going to install the PTO gear into the transfer.
Isn't that SST just a typical alignment tool for the clutch disc? It aligns the splines of the clutch disc (and therefore the transmission input shaft) to the pilot bearing. Basically centering the clutch disc so the tranny will seat all the way in without a lot of swearing.
Thanks Kevin, that's kinda what I thought, but this is virgin territory for me. So is this something I can get/borrow from an auto parts store. Does anyone local have one I can borrow? Or is it even worth it to take off the clutch if everything was working fine before and I don't need to replace any parts? Can I clean it where it is or is it best to take it all apart, clean it out and put it back in.
Thanks for all the help guys.
And a few pics.
I went to Princess Auto to buy a transmission adapter they had on sale but they didn't have any left, so I had to improvise. It worked out pretty good.