Stolen Land Cruisers -- Common Factors
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Oh, so it beeps after it's too late to keep the presumed stalker from finding out where you live... Maybe thieves will just do what they do to avoid LoJack tracking them (as opposed to the vehicle): park it somewhere and wait a day or two to see if the cops show up, come back and get it if not.
Air tags suck, because they are the first thing the car thieves look for, I am all about a kill switch and Pew pews in the country
Presumably the owner of the truck would realize their truck is missing and get the location at that moment. In my case the thief left the truck at an Autozone 2 miles from my house and had I had any kind of tracker I could have recovered it sooner, maybe even the very morning it was stolen.
In my experience, current airtag location is spotty, at best. Many times the location doesn't resolve, or takes quite a long time to do so. This happens even when I know the tag is with someone with a current iPhone 11 or 12. (That said, I frequently have the same experience with Find My trying to locate my kids with their LTE Apple Watch SE's, and even my wife's iPhone.)
It would be much more useful if you could log in and get a record of the PATH that the airtag had taken. Knowing the path could tell you where the item (whether it's your LC, a lost backpack, your dog, whatever) has been, at what time(s), what direction it is / was going.
If only there was an app that would continuously Find My the airtag and store the location points overlayed on a map....
It would be much more useful if you could log in and get a record of the PATH that the airtag had taken. Knowing the path could tell you where the item (whether it's your LC, a lost backpack, your dog, whatever) has been, at what time(s), what direction it is / was going.
If only there was an app that would continuously Find My the airtag and store the location points overlayed on a map....
So let's all discuss multiple ways of securing our trucks in an open online forum.
Good idea?
Delete this freaking thread you knuckleheads.
Good idea?
Delete this freaking thread you knuckleheads.
None of this is secret and can be found anywhere online or YouTube.
It is a fallacy that many people fall into, "Security through obscurity"
Security through obscurity - Wikipedia
Security is best discussed openly. You don't have to post your exact implementation that may be tracked back through your account here.
Well then by all means, let's make it easier.
The whole point of the discussion is to discuss ways to make it more time consuming and difficult for a vehicle to be stolen. Discussions in the open may make simple measures less difficult and time consuming only for for an incompetent thief.
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The thieves know it all already; why shouldn't we? And a surprising number of the folks on here don't do any other social media, making a private discussion a lesser option. Also, knowing there may be a kill-switch, or a tracking device etc.--doesn't really help the bad guy find it. If anything, all the different options discussed here will have him/her/them wasting time looking for sh*t that isn't there--or deciding to just go steal something easier...
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Figure I'd make a post, been watching the thread for a while now.
Any good threads on preventing car smash and grabs outside of obvious information such as not leaving valuables out? I live in a major US city in a nice zipcode and I still am not safe.
I was against GPS and remote engine shutoff for a while but hell, if Im going to spend 5k on exterior mods alone and can afford the thirsty engine and insurance, whats the point of avoiding a 30$ month subscription if they even cost that much?
Anyone know if these systems are true GPS or just based off of cell towers? Do they work internationally if I want to cruise down to mexico?
Any good threads on preventing car smash and grabs outside of obvious information such as not leaving valuables out? I live in a major US city in a nice zipcode and I still am not safe.
I was against GPS and remote engine shutoff for a while but hell, if Im going to spend 5k on exterior mods alone and can afford the thirsty engine and insurance, whats the point of avoiding a 30$ month subscription if they even cost that much?
Anyone know if these systems are true GPS or just based off of cell towers? Do they work internationally if I want to cruise down to mexico?
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The GPS function by itself doesn't give you any remote connectivity or communication to/from the truck. Your two basic options are GPS + cellular or GPS + satellite communications.
The typical anti-theft system has its own cellular phone/modem built-in to the system for ground-based communication. Whether roaming is supported would be entirely based on the company running the service and it would cost them/you extra. You would have to worry about compatible towers, roaming agreements, and coverage gaps in very remote areas.
Less typical would be an anti-theft solution with satellite-based communication although this would be incredibly expensive for 2-way communications.
A basic 1-way satellite asset tracking solution like the Globalstar SPOT Trace is currently $50 for the hardware and about $200 per year for the service. It only provides tracking and alerting if the asset moves. No remote start or engine shutdown. There are no roaming issues but it will stop reporting when/if the truck were parked inside a building. The SPOT Trace doesn't care if it is tethered to a car, ATV, or your dog. By itself, it's not designed to be a Lo-Jack type solution for vehicles.
These trucks are not really valuable in Mexico. Your truck might get stolen in Mexico just like any other vehicle, but not specifically because it’s an 80 series. Full size American SUVs are valuable and targeted.
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Cost is not the only issue. Some of these services refuse to tell you where the vehicle is. They’ll tell the cops, who may or may not get around to looking for it one day, but that’s it. My mother had her car stolen, never saw it again. A few weeks later, she got a parking ticket in the mail because the car had been parked illegally. On a bridge. AFTER being reported stolen. And cops are way busier now…
You'd think their computer would tell them it was a stolen vehicle when they put in the license plate so they could contact the real cops to come impound it.
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Why would I think that? Lot of assumptions there, none of which I’m prepared to make.
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Well I'd think that because it's an easy thing to do, especially given the systems already in place. Sadly the ineptitude of our government continues to amaze me and I suspect it won't get better no matter who is voted for.Why would I think that? Lot of assumptions there, none of which I’m prepared to make.
I just recovered my FJ62 today - it was gone 48 hours (ish) and i'm super fried out tired from an incredibly long intense tiresome day - so please forgive me if this has already been posted ... i readily confess that i have not read 8 pages of posts!
my 88 FJ62 was taken from right out in front of my house by these methods
my truck that i recovered - clearly locked:
this little nugget the thieves left behind:
goes right into the drivers side door like butter:
and promptly unlocks the door.
i stuck this filed down "master key" into the ignition and i could get the "beep beep beep" to come on so it knew a key was in the ignition -but i couldnt force it to turn on the engine.
a tweaker with zero fuuuucks to give would easily force it to turn - or have a handful of toyota keys on a ring and one would finally work. I got my truck back and the ignition is intact as well as the door locks..they didnt have to injure anything to take my truck from my possession. it was incredibly easy for them.
now i have it disabled...and blocked in by our subaru.
my 88 FJ62 was taken from right out in front of my house by these methods
my truck that i recovered - clearly locked:
this little nugget the thieves left behind:
goes right into the drivers side door like butter:
and promptly unlocks the door.
i stuck this filed down "master key" into the ignition and i could get the "beep beep beep" to come on so it knew a key was in the ignition -but i couldnt force it to turn on the engine.
a tweaker with zero fuuuucks to give would easily force it to turn - or have a handful of toyota keys on a ring and one would finally work. I got my truck back and the ignition is intact as well as the door locks..they didnt have to injure anything to take my truck from my possession. it was incredibly easy for them.
now i have it disabled...and blocked in by our subaru.