Solid Axle vs IFS thoughts...

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pesimsmd said:
No change to the rear axle, front axle will be Diamond axle 9.5 inch, with 105 hubs. His plan is to set up the front and rear axles the same keeping them 5 lugs. His thinking is that its easier to get junk 100 rear axle if its damaged, rather then making custom axles. As it stands the only exotic part will be the 105 hubs, and the plan is to get one extra so you wont have to look it, if something happens.
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I wna see this project 100...do they have pics of the project so far?
 
Crux said:
Is he keeping the rear axle or replacing that too?
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LJ_24 said:
I wna see this project 100...do they have pics of the project so far?
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No pictures yet, has a few more details to workout, IE what steering box to use, what kind of wheels will be required, leaning toward 18 rims, getting the ABS to work with the new hubs. The tear down and rebuild should start as soon as they get the front axle and hubs, 4-6 weeks to get the axle and housing. I was told they wanted to get most of the work done in Dec, with a promised finished date in March. I told them I wanted Pictures, but with a few more people urging him to post on mud, I don't see why not.
 
pesimsmd said:
Slee is doing an another SAS on a 00 UZJ100. It should be ready in March 2010. Not as radical as the Blueberry, but more like an expedition style rig, with 36 tires, 5-6 inches of lift.
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I'd say I'd get spy shots when I'm out that way around new years but somehow I have a feeling you can keep us updated on it.

:beer: to you, takes a man to give his truck away for several months.
 
I drive my dads uzj100 every now and again and drive mates 105 series fzj's and hzj turbos and the uzj i find is way more comfy on the road and drives much easier/nicer but as for off road id much prefer to be in my 79 series or mates 105 series with the solid front diff
Dont see to many younger fellas in 100s that seems to be an older mans car and 105s driven by younger fellas and offroaders
 
Clint79 said:
I drive my dads uzj100 every now and again and drive mates 105 series fzj's and hzj turbos and the uzj i find is way more comfy on the road and drives much easier/nicer but as for off road id much prefer to be in my 79 series or mates 105 series with the solid front diff
Dont see to many younger fellas in 100s that seems to be an older mans car and 105s driven by younger fellas and offroaders
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If we had the 105 here in the U.S., I'd trade in my 100 series for it
 
if they made a uzj105 id trade my 79 series for one
they made fzj100 and 105 why not uzj the same

Dont you guys in US get a option of a 5.7 v8??? for your 100's
 
Only U.S spec engine for the uzj100 is the 2UZ-FE ( 4.7 L V8)


No deisel. No turbos. Nothing exciting.

We do have a supercharger.... But even that has been discontinued.


And for Crux:

if you rock crwled, ran Moab and rubicon and other crazy trials. I say do the SAS. If not than leave the IFS in there. Toyota designs some I the best and mos reliable. Unless you need it. Leave it. The money you would spend on the SAS would be a lot o money you could of spent on maintenece. And there will still be maintenance on a solid axle, exepct it'll be 10X harder to service it ad there are no "105" series mechanics in the U.S ( assuming you service it at a dealer). Service it your self... I guess you don't had to worry about a dealer.
 
I would not expect Slee to post pictures of the progress. After all they have work to do and customers to tend to. Plus I think Christo enjoys doing these projects and having a release party so to speak. Here it is in all its glory, and a lot of those reveals in the past have been in May at Cruise Moab.

I'd love to have a solid axle 100 but I still don't think that is the limiting factor of it becoming an awesome hardcore wheeler. Its size is the real problem.
 
I believe no one here, correct me if I'm wrong. Has actually broken the Ifs? correct? Front difs, sure, cv's sure, worn out ball joints, Shott's leaking steering, the AU weld on plate, to prevent cracking, but not in the US. 100's have made it through Rubicon and just about anywhere else a well built rig can go. What more does one need?

I sugest the limitations of places a 100 can go is determined by the desire not to damage the body. Not the limits of the IFS.

Unless you *have* to run 37's, then all bets are off.
 
farinvail said:
I believe no one here, correct me if I'm wrong. Has actually broken the Ifs? correct? Front difs, sure, cv's sure, worn out ball joints, Shott's leaking steering, the AU weld on plate, to prevent cracking, but not in the US. 100's have made it through Rubicon and just about anywhere else a well built rig can go. What more does one need?

I sugest the limitations of places a 100 can go is determined by the desire not to damage the body. Not the limits of the IFS.

Unless you *have* to run 37's, then all bets are off.
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To be able to have an honest 3.5-4" of lift front and rear along with castor correction is quite attractive...for me at least. However we've driven our 100's into, up and over some formidable trails with real Class IV obstacles without issue. And on trails with uber tight switchbacks the tighter turning radius of our IFS rigs is a definite advantage compared to a lifted 80 for comparison. Multi-point turns aren't a big deal/challenge but I do especially appreciate the tight turning radius when pulling my KK up/down tight switchbacks.

But if, and a big "if", the SAS conversion yields a well and properly handling (on and off-road) rig without big glaring issues it could be an attractive strategy to obtain a solid axled rig in a newer LC platform.
 
farinvail said:
Unless you *have* to run 37's, then all bets are off.
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And arguably, in that case, you shouldn't be driving a big full-size Land Cruiser wagon! :flipoff2:
 
Of course everyone wants bigger tires but I don't think I can bare seeing my mpg's go down hahaha
 
If I decide to regear (4.88s) and get ARB lockers front and rear - how much of that can be resused if I later decided to swap in a solid axle?
 
gears

The gears are the same, but the air locker is different.



Crux said:
If I decide to regear (4.88s) and get ARB lockers front and rear - how much of that can be resused if I later decided to swap in a solid axle?
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Why don't you guys just import a rigid 105 rolling chassis from Australia or even one from a left hand drive country? There are plenty sitting in wrecking yards.

Me personally I wouldn't own an ifs truck.

There were quite a few wishbone, diff and ball joint failures here in oz in the early 100's.
 
Lining up the bodymounts and frame would be a task, but I guess not that insane if you're already swapping a frame.
 
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