Build Rocklander 77-series build

[SNLC]

As funky as leaf spring sliders?

Way way more funky. It’s a bolt on contraption to drop the entire SuA suspension down for “big” SuA lift.

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[matzell]

Happy to help out with some of my "stash". I look forward to see how this turns out.

 

[RHINO]

80 swivel balls and widening, is that just to keep a 9.5 ring gear?

 

[SNLC]

80 swivel balls and widening, is that just to keep a 9.5 ring gear?

Yes

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[SNLC]

Getting this prepped to install!!!

Cutting things off!!

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[cruisermatt]

really interested in how you like the sliders especially in the front. I actually need to move my front leaf springs inboard about 1.5" per side since my tires rub at full lock and with my frenched upper shackle bushing I am not really sure what to do.. the slider could fix my problem.
My 62 is very similar in terms of overall stance, just a few inches lower. Looking forward to seeing how you make the 37's steer/cycle and clear everywhere, it gets so tight

 

[SNLC]

really interested in how you like the sliders especially in the front. I actually need to move my front leaf springs inboard about 1.5" per side since my tires rub at full lock and with my frenched upper shackle bushing I am not really sure what to do.. the slider could fix my problem.
My 62 is very similar in terms of overall stance, just a few inches lower. Looking forward to seeing how you make the 37's steer/cycle and clear everywhere, it gets so tight

Keep in mind the 80-series axles are 3.5” wider per side than the 70-series axles, I am 7” wider wms to wms vs the 70-series axles. Only 3” over all from a a 62” though and that is front. Wider will help with clearance to the chassis but for clearance to the body we are just going to cut sheet metal out of the way. May even tube the front and use the body sheet metal to skin it.

We are having to do shackle reversal in the front with the leaf sliders simply because the 70-series style steering won’t work with it in front, the pitman arm and steering box make it a no go.

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[cruisermatt]

Yeah, I am IFS hubs AND 1" wheel spacers on the 62 axle so 5" wider then a normal 60 axle. I would like to add the housing spacer on the passenger side to move my diff inboard so I can move the passenger spring in, and lose the wheel spacers, and get my knuckle pivot points further out. Sorry for the ramble hijack. I need to hit up Matzell for a spacer.

 

[RHINO]

We are having to do shackle reversal in the front with the leaf sliders simply because the 70-series style steering won’t work with it in front, the pitman arm and steering box make it a no go.

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cause its "low pro" without the shackles, didnt even think of that

 

[RHINO]

Yeah, I am IFS hubs AND 1" wheel spacers on the 62 axle so 5" wider then a normal 60 axle. I would like to add the housing spacer on the passenger side to move my diff inboard so I can move the passenger spring in, and lose the wheel spacers, and get my knuckle pivot points further out. Sorry for the ramble hijack. I need to hit up Matzell for a spacer.

that swing must be pretty signifigant. i bet if you widen the axle and get rid of the spacers and other "widening" parts you wont have to inboard the springs

 

[SNLC]

Took all this to the machine shop for a little machining this morning.

The guys in the shop have out voted me on putting the Black Box in with the H152. I could-can always buy another one for the 80-series UTE we are building too. It’s pretty big and long (insert snarky comment here) but we can still have a 30” long rear driveshaft which isn’t terribly short. This trans with the bell housing, Block Box & HF2A tcase is 48” long!

NPC 1300nm clutch with bling billet flywheel going on.

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[SNLC]

really interested in how you like the sliders especially in the front. I actually need to move my front leaf springs inboard about 1.5" per side since my tires rub at full lock and with my frenched upper shackle bushing I am not really sure what to do.. the slider could fix my problem.
My 62 is very similar in terms of overall stance, just a few inches lower. Looking forward to seeing how you make the 37's steer/cycle and clear everywhere, it gets so tight

Also Matt, why not change backspacing on your wheels to dump the 1” spacer and also widen it so your tires are not scrubbing on the leaves?

The KMC wheels I will run on this build will likely have 3.5”-ish backspacing which will in turn make it an additional 1” wider per side vs stock 80-series backspacing which is roughly 4.5”.

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[SNLC]

This is looking pretty sweet, stoked on this!

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[Rigster]

This is looking pretty sweet, stoked on this!

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Great work, as usual Ian! Love the innovation.

How did you work out the castor on the knuckle balls and spring mount angles with the SoA lift changes you are making, etc?

 

[SNLC]

Great work, as usual Ian! Love the innovation.

How did you work out the castor on the knuckle balls and spring mount angles with the SoA lift changes you are making, etc?

Used the axle that was in it (8" high pinion) to get initial numbers.

That doesn't matter much though since all those things (pinion angle and caster) is dealt with as we set it up under the Cruiser. We can set pinion at whatever we want and caster too which is still to be determined. I will shoot for 5* of caster though.

There is a lot going on, we are installing the 1HDFT, H152, Black Box and HF2A tcase at the same time. While the frame side 1HZ engine mounts work fine for the FT the H55 trans mount & cross member is moving a lot. There is welding and fab involved here. As such we will see what our output flanges off the tcase are in terms of angles, should be pretty close to stock though. That determines what we set our pinion angles at on the axles. It is the full meal deal going on right now, complete power train and axle swap.

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[SNLC]

Oh ya, that is an 80-series rear 9.5” diff 3rd member installed in the 62-series front axle housing.

In case you ever wondered if that can be done.

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[cruisermatt]

Also Matt, why not change backspacing on your wheels to dump the 1” spacer and also widen it so your tires are not scrubbing on the leaves?

The KMC wheels I will run on this build will likely have 3.5”-ish backspacing which will in turn make it an additional 1” wider per side vs stock 80-series backspacing which is roughly 4.5”.

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I don't want the tires to poke out too much to where it looks like I have a full width axle becuase I am a "Cruiser Purist"

 

[Cruiserlab]

Oh ya, that is an 80-series rear 9.5” diff 3rd member installed in the 62-series front axle housing.

In case you ever wondered if that can be done.

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Noob question, is it still high pinion? And did you have clearance anything for the larger ring diameter?

 

[SNLC]

Noob question, is it still high pinion? And did you have clearance anything for the larger ring diameter?

No not high pinion and no clearance issues.

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[SNLC]

This happened,

Some more ugly rot pictures!!

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