Rear bumper poll

[Dusten]

Ya I guess $4500 after taxes and freight vs $4000 seems moot to me. However the 200 is a completely different material and design (3-piece) and all are quite new, probably just a typo. Good luck with the decision.

Taxes are $400 alone(10.2% sales tax)

It's not about moot. I don't need everything on the slee. So why pay more, and add more weight that I don't need?

If dissent was a new company offering a new product it would be one thing. But they're a proven company that's expanded their line.

If a new land cruiser rolled out next year and slee built a front bumper no one's gonna say..
Well it's a new bumper, I don't know.

The dissent is 3700 before shipping.
The slee is 4500 before shipping.
$800 buys a lot of gas.

 

[JoeCova]

If dissent was a new company offering a new product it would be one thing. But they're a proven company that's expanded their line.

If a new land cruiser rolled out next year and slee built a front bumper no one's gonna say..
Well it's a new bumper, I don't know.

Ya I like Dissents design probably the most both front and rear and have been following him since he got started in 2016 and expanded in 2018. I guess it just depends on how you want to define "new."

Completely agree that no one would question a Slee design on a new LC as they have been around for decades, a staple vendor for Landcruiser's and are proven by tens of thousands of customers.

 

[Dusten]

Ya I like Dissents design probably the most both front and rear and have been following him since he got started in 2016 and expanded in 2018. I guess it just depends on how you want to define "new."

Completely agree that no one would question a Slee design on a new LC as they have been around for decades, a staple vendor for Landcruiser's and are proven by tens of thousands of customers.

I wouldn't consider a company making bumpers for 7 years as new.

 

[JoeCova]

I wouldn't consider a company making bumpers for 7 years as new.

So what did you decide?

 

[on the rocks]

You may want to consider the need for a hitch, trailer harness, built in lights and possible weight of the bumpers on your decision. If not an issue to have any and already having the Delta on the front I would say it's a clear choice to have the matching DVS rear. They don't look like they will match up well.
- If Dissent had the bumper available earlier I might have gone front rear with them over Delta.
- The lines look better on the DVS IMO. The Dissent is more squared and doesn't flow with the body lines as well.
- Both seem evenly equipped.
- Be ready for the 80 to start handling different with all that weight on each end. The rear DVS really made a big difference on how the 80 felt on the highway. Don't know the Dissent would be any different tho.
- I have a near 150 lb spare. Its pushing what the DVS can support IMO. The swingout bearing is a beast but the support has sagged a few times and needed adjusted and it shakes pretty good on rough roads.
- The locking latch on the passenger side rusted out on me but I think this was an early version and fixed. Make sure you grease these if you go this route.
- Neither look to open enough. IMO they should have 2 stops and an option to open up 90 degrees.
- I don't think rock crawling is your thing but the DVS seems more than beefy enough to take on rock bashes. The mounting was well thought out and solid.
- DVS support and response time has gone downhill over the last few years. Don't know about Dissent.

EDIT* Oh, and get the ladder at minimum. The 2nd swingout just looks funny without it. I realize it was part of the design and works great but the two rear mounting plates were a bit on the large side when designed. I think the intent was to load a ton of s*** on them with accessories. Bare bones, it just doesn't look right.

 

[Dusten]

You may want to consider the need for a hitch, trailer harness, built in lights and possible weight of the bumpers on your decision. If not an issue to have any and already having the Delta on the front I would say it's a clear choice to have the matching DVS rear. They don't look like they will match up well.
- If Dissent had the bumper available earlier I might have gone front rear with them over Delta.
- The lines look better on the DVS IMO. The Dissent is more squared and doesn't flow with the body lines as well.
- Both seem evenly equipped.
- Be ready for the 80 to start handling different with all that weight on each end. The rear DVS really made a big difference on how the 80 felt on the highway. Don't know the Dissent would be any different tho.
- I have a near 150 lb spare. Its pushing what the DVS can support IMO. The swingout bearing is a beast but the support has sagged a few times and needed adjusted and it shakes pretty good on rough roads.
- The locking latch on the passenger side rusted out on me but I think this was an early version and fixed. Make sure you grease these if you go this route.
- Neither look to open enough. IMO they should have 2 stops and an option to open up 90 degrees.
- I don't think rock crawling is your thing but the DVS seems more than beefy enough to take on rock bashes. The mounting was well thought out and solid.
- DVS support and response time has gone downhill over the last few years. Don't know about Dissent.

EDIT* Oh, and get the ladder at minimum. The 2nd swingout just looks funny without it. I realize it was part of the design and works great but the two rear mounting plates were a bit on the large side when designed. I think the intent was to load a ton of s*** on them with accessories. Bare bones, it just doesn't look right.

That's a lot of good info.

Zero need for a hitch. I don't own a trailer small enough and never intend to pull one.

I have nothing on my roof. A ladder would look as silly as nothing.

We do a lot of wheeling here on the rocks. I have a caved in rocker panel already from a lack of sliders. Which is why I haven't looked at the bolt or weld on tire carrier options. I have the protection the bumper provides too.

 

[Feldrian]

DVS all the way. Check out the latching mechanism and how it carries the weight of the swing out. It's what sold me. A lot of the others use tension locking systems which aren't nearly as thoroughly engineered or as easy to operate.

I've beaten the tar out of mine and it still operates smoothly with a 37" tire strapped to it.

 

[Dusten]

Yes I know I had issues with dvs. But they're about the only bumper out there I like besides dissent

Slee's is nice but very expensive.
Avid doesn't have one on their site anymore. And the rest won't really match my bumper.

Both bumpers are optioned the same.

Simple bumper with 1 swing out for a spare tire. I want the bumper for protection and figured I'd move my spare from inside the cab.

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Bumping this with a question.


Those who've ordered a raw bumper, how happy are you with the self paint job?
Delta's powder coating got really expensive so I'd consider shooting it myself.

Also man these got expensive....
Same bumpers as my first post(delta is a redesign I think)

 

[Marvelicious]

I've painted a lot of bumpers and other wheeler parts over the years. If you actually go off-road, then paint wins hands down. Powder coating is tougher, but once it gets damaged, it's damaged. The rattle can job gets damaged easier, but fixing it is a matter of getting out the rattle can and maybe doing some masking (usually a well located chunk of cardboard will serve). There are a lot of tricks to doing a good job with rattle cans. Actually, Adam Savage (one of the Mythbusters guys) has done some really good videos on tricks for this. You can probably google it, but he's got a ton of videos. Here are a few tips that work for me:

• REALLY make sure the can is well mixed. You can actually buy a little thing that chucks into your cordless drill and spins the can to mix the hell out of it.
• Preheat your can a bit to get max pressure (hot tap water works).
• LLC - Lots of Light Coats. Follow the directions on the can for how long to dry in between, but you never want to be hosing it on there to the point where it drys slow, let alone runs.

 

[Broski]

Appliance epoxy, closest thing you can get to Powdercoat.
Follow the instructions and the Tips that
marvelicious gave.

 

[Dusten]

I've painted a lot of bumpers and other wheeler parts over the years. If you actually go off-road, then paint wins hands down. Powder coating is tougher, but once it gets damaged, it's damaged. The rattle can job gets damaged easier, but fixing it is a matter of getting out the rattle can and maybe doing some masking (usually a well located chunk of cardboard will serve). There are a lot of tricks to doing a good job with rattle cans. Actually, Adam Savage (one of the Mythbusters guys) has done some really good videos on tricks for this. You can probably google it, but he's got a ton of videos. Here are a few tips that work for me:

• REALLY make sure the can is well mixed. You can actually buy a little thing that chucks into your cordless drill and spins the can to mix the hell out of it.
• Preheat your can a bit to get max pressure (hot tap water works).
• LLC - Lots of Light Coats. Follow the directions on the can for how long to dry in between, but you never want to be hosing it on there to the point where it drys slow, let alone runs.

I don't wheel a lot but I wheel enough

 

[Irish Reiver]

Bumping this with a question.


Those who've ordered a raw bumper, how happy are you with the self paint job?
Delta's powder coating got really expensive so I'd consider shooting it myself.

I have 3 raw bumpers sat in my garage waiting on my attention. 2 fronts from Coastal and a rear 4x4labs. I was originally toying with a basic rattle can epoxy then I saw how solid the POR15 finish was but now I am likely to go with Steel-it. Lots of time to decide as I still need to weld them first.

 

[arndog123]

I voted DVS but I still prefer the look of the Slee.

 

[WiscoPat]

Regarding painting bumpers, I've had excellent results via sandblasting and then coating with Steel It.

Not cheap, but a great product that's stronger than any others I've tried. It also has a nice finish, when prepped and applied correctly.

 

[Dusten]

I voted DVS but I still prefer the look of the Slee.

As soon as they sell one without a ladder and tire carrier I'll consider it.