Pistol Holster Mount – Shotgun Holster Mount

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On topic, I am surprised the SC-5 has not been mentioned. It ratchets down and with decent butt stock placement provides a rattle free mount. Very versatile mount options and can be key or electric switch activated.

SC-5 Universal Gunlock for all Rifles & Shotguns - Santa Cruz Gunlocks
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Slightly on topic, choice of holsters and placement of holsters for threat response. When a person makes placement of a firearm, or choice of carry location, every draw is a rep. It takes at least 5,000 reps to create muscle memory. If you are building on a foundation of less than desirable elements, your results will reflect. One can easily draw a serpa stress free a couple of times, get the hang of it, and wonder how anyone could shoot themselves in the leg... I understand that perspective completely.

Unfortunately complacency and stress arrive, neither which is a good recipe for low reps on a product like the serpa. Beyond that when thinking about foundations why not start with a known solid platform? How hard is it for the average person to get 5,000 plus reps of any firearm related activity? Then factor in if you want to up your game and want to learn support hand reload by placing the pistol cross draw back in the holster? Serpa has been known to lock a support hand reload pistol in the holster.

Maybe the serpa gets dirty when you're rolling around fending off zombies? Maybe your console gets filled with margarita mix and then the serpa gets gummed up that way?

Just my .02 but I would get a simple bladetech or similar kydex and call it good. If you want retention look at safariland als. Hope that helps.
 
I've purchased and installed "Quick Fist Clamps" on work vehicles overseas, they are cheap to purchase which was a big plus because I was using my own dime to buy them. Also the Quick Fist Clamps are very easily and quickly disengaged with one hand, the lack of a true lock and need for a key or combination is a massive plus for the type of situation I've been using them.

They come in many different sizes and also work great for mounting tools/gear in the back of a SUV or truck bed.

The SC-5 looks like a good option for mounting things that you want to actually LOCK and secure in place from unwanted access. The "Quick Fist Clamp" doesn't prevent unwanted access to an object, it's goal is to just to keep things in place.
 
120mm said:
The ironic thing is, the equivalent Safariland holster is either close to, or the exact same price as the Serpa AND DOESN'T SHARE THIS DESIGN FLAW.
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What model number is the equivalent ? I have a spare Blackhawk still in the package, maybe I will return it and try the one you are talking about.

@MoustacheMike I have actually sat in on a class from the OST guys, very interesting, at least the stuff they are willing to share.
 
Safariland holsters aren't the only option out there, but they are a quality choice.

If you look around you can find good deals on new holsters, or get a used one at a great price. ALS Models comparatively priced:
6377 ALS, 6379 ALS, 7377-7TS ALS, 7379-7TS ALS, 6378 ALS, 7378-7TS ALS, 6378USN ALS

You could also look at SLS holsters:
6280, 6285, 6004


If you wouldn't cheap out on your handgun selection by getting a Hipoint or Jennings, then don't cheap out on holster selection by getting a Fobus, Uncle Mike, or SERPA.
 
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dirtyboots said:
On topic, I am surprised the SC-5 has not been mentioned. It ratchets down and with decent butt stock placement provides a rattle free mount. Very versatile mount options and can be key or electric switch activated.

SC-5 Universal Gunlock for all Rifles & Shotguns - Santa Cruz Gunlocks
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Slightly on topic, choice of holsters and placement of holsters for threat response. When a person makes placement of a firearm, or choice of carry location, every draw is a rep. It takes at least 5,000 reps to create muscle memory. If you are building on a foundation of less than desirable elements, your results will reflect. One can easily draw a serpa stress free a couple of times, get the hang of it, and wonder how anyone could shoot themselves in the leg... I understand that perspective completely.

Unfortunately complacency and stress arrive, neither which is a good recipe for low reps on a product like the serpa. Beyond that when thinking about foundations why not start with a known solid platform? How hard is it for the average person to get 5,000 plus reps of any firearm related activity? Then factor in if you want to up your game and want to learn support hand reload by placing the pistol cross draw back in the holster? Serpa has been known to lock a support hand reload pistol in the holster.

Maybe the serpa gets dirty when you're rolling around fending off zombies? Maybe your console gets filled with margarita mix and then the serpa gets gummed up that way?

Just my .02 but I would get a simple bladetech or similar kydex and call it good. If you want retention look at safariland als. Hope that helps.
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Well put.
 
Can someone explain to me why you would want to do this? All this talk about retention and what not. Retention holsters are made to be worn on the body and designed to be used from the hip. The Serpa is just dangerous. I use Safariland SLS every night, and would never use the Serpa. The ALS system by Safariland is far superior. It uses the thumb to unlock the mechanism versus the trigger finger. But my question still remains, why would you want to mount your handgun somewhere in the vehicle?
 
Why not wear it? From a safety standpoint this is the best place for a gun if you're going to carry it. If it's to keep it out of sight while out of the vehicle just get one of @NLXTACY scout boxes, and lock it up. It's large enough to hold most full sized hand guns. I can't think of any scenario where I'd rather have my CC anywhere other than on me. If it's a comfort thing then I can only say "Carrying a concealed gun is comforting, not always comfortable."
 
It would probably be very difficult to get the weapon out while driving and having the seat belt on. The sitting position would not be optimal to take it out of the holster. I think.
If you're not LEO, you would probably see a few knocking on your window.
 
I have to disagree. I am a cop, and in this state if you're transporting a gun it has to be locked in the trunk or a container that's not the glove box. Unless of course you have a CCW. I CC everyday. In the event that you need your weapon while inside your vehicle, you're too late. If someone is shooting at you already your best course of action is to escape the threat (ie duck down and floor it), and get to an area to regroup. If you're being carjacked, you're best bet is to just hand over the car, because if the guy pointing the gun at you see's you going for a weapon he may pull that trigger. If the gun is in the vehicle, and the individual leaves in it, they now have your ride and your gun. If you IWB carry, like I do, you could move the weapon to another location on your body for easier access if you like. I sometimes do. If you could offer me a scenario where it's better to have the gun hidden away in the center console just chillin' there I'll entertain it, but I can't fathom one.
 
Also, as far as drawing a gun while being buckled that maybe true depending on where you carry. I usually carry in the 4-5 o' clock position. A little lean forward and no problem pulling the gun. At the 3 o'clock I could see it being difficult because that's usually right in the same spot as the buckle for a seat belt. I can't appendix carry because I find it too uncomfortable, plus I don't like the idea of having a gun pointed at my boys, but it may be easier to draw from there if you needed to.
 
120mm said:
I'm another big fan of weapon between the console and the seat.

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All I do for concealment is to through a light Afghan blanket over it.

I've stored it there while sharing the car with other people, and even had a Sheriff's deputy help me look for my registration without realizing what it was. It's where I carried my long gun in Afghanistan, and it evidently works.
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Your AK has Hello Kitty on it. That makes me smile. :) What kind of build is that by the way?
 
Dragos80 said:
I'm left handed. I need to move to Australia in order to carry while driving. Or just get a JDM Land Cruiser.
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Well get an HDJ at least if you do. Really though being left handed is going to be difficult to draw in any car because of the door and not having room to swing the elbow out. Maybe leave an ankle holster in the rig and move it there when you get in, or get the 5-11 CC shirts with the pockets under the armpit.
 
@MoustacheMike quick fist is an excellent suggestion...price is right and one handed no less. The SC lock can be set up on a delay switch that leaves it unlocked for whatever time after you hit the switch. So the SC can be one hand operated very easily. I copy you fellers that went overseas and have brought back some quick reaction long gun wisdom and it's appreciated. And I don't work for SC.

From my limited experience in 'Merica your chit is more likely to get jacked / stolen or knocked loose to clown one in the noggin vs. needing to get a lightning fast seconds count quick draw. Strictly speculation so take it for what it's worth.

@ElPolloBlanco that's a damn good question. It's not a great reason, but I was thinking if one builds draw repetitions why not incorporate it in to the console mount? Might prevent a youngin' or other from just yanking it out of the center console during an unplanned event? Seems like the best solution for an in console mount would be a simple kydex with friction retention?

I was thinking about mounting a long gun in the tailgate kinda like a wagon gear set up, has anyone done that before?
 
ElPolloBlanco said:
Your AK has Hello Kitty on it. That makes me smile. :) What kind of build is that by the way?
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It's a Yugo M92 courtesy of Controlled Chaos Arms of Baxter, Iowa. Controlled Chaos Arms

Great guy who does top notch work, and regularly rubs elbows with folks like Pat Rogers from EAG and Brownell's.

The Hello Kitty! stickers are partly a tribute to my Afghan friends and a gentle jab toward some of my more testosterone-drenched co-workers. ("Get that @#%& off your gun! That ain't funny!)

I can't CC where I live now (Europe) but when I'm home, I CC everywhere I go. I have made use of a ready long arm (discretely) as over watch for a potential LEO disaster. Single State Trooper was in the process of trying not to get his ass beaten/killed by 5 rough looking types on the side of the road. I came to a halt approx. 200 m short of their position and pulled a tactical rifle I had riding on the floor of the second row seats out and made it ready, yet stayed in my vehicle while the wife watched our six. I figured if these guys got on top of the officer, I would peck at them to keep them busy. Thankfully, half of the Central Iowa LEO came over the hill a few minutes in and before the thugs could make a move, so I put the rifle back where it was and went along my way, with no one the wiser. Since Iowa is a "must retreat" state, I wonder what would've happened to me if I would've defended the officer. Anyway, I wasn't going to stand idly by.
 
Dragos80 said:
I don't see any problem with you being armed in Germany. It wouldn't be the first time Americans go there armed to the teeth. The Russians did it too.
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It's possible. I was always armed when I was stationed there, but it's expensive and a pita to do it legally. The other way is easier, but tough to make it through security checkpoints where they 3d scan your vehicle. Toolboxes full of wrenches can disguise many things. The real problem is obtaining ammo, especially for non Nato calibers. Unless it's something the Russians make, it's hard to get there. AK/tok ammo is at every flea market however. In Frankfurt, new members of the Swat team are tasked with purchasing an AK on the black market (in plain clothes) on day one. They are usually back before lunch.
 
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