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[NCFJ]

This one sold yesterday.

Cummins-Powered 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed

Bid for the chance to own a Cummins-Powered 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #66,266.

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[uzj100]

Honestly the first 2hundo that looks nice to me. Portals are a game changer.

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@lt1fire Check out this G. This dude is in cali and installed the portals himself. It sounds pretty sweet. G-Wagen to the rescue! - Club G-Wagen Forum - https://clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21218

 

[onemanarmy]

Think an LS swap will hurt the value of your 60 or 80? This truck was built in 2017

LS3-Powered 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ62

Bid for the chance to own a LS3-Powered 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ62 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #66,200.

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$100k and those wheels? I know its an easy fix, but spending that much money to build a 62 and spec'ing those? What is the thought process?

 

[NCFJ]

My customer, he's a club member, bought the truck with those wheels on it, never changed them. Guy who bought it at auction did not seem to give the wheels much thought either. When it comes to buying vehicles, wheels are rarely a deal breaker.

 

[onemanarmy]

I know....thats why I said it was an easy fix, it is just odd to me that someone would EVER choose those wheels, not to mention when doing a full rebuild and advertising it on a world wide website for sale. No doubt its a beaut of a build!

Land Cruisers trade on nostalgia, and the proper wheels go A LONG WAY towards enhancing and completing that vibe and look. Might have sold for $105k+ with the proper wheels! Never know. For sure would not have hurt the value.

When I see ill fitting, aftermarket and odd wheels, I always question what other weird and odd choices the vehicle owner made.

 

[NCFJ]

There are folks that like those wheels, I have a set on my pickup.

Build your truck with any wheels that trip your trigger. "Proper" wheels is highly subjective. Every single choice on a vehicle is subjective. That vehicle that just sold for $100K had the subjective choices of at least two owners, that I know of. Personally I am not a fan of brown interiors, I prefer black and shades of gray. But the PO and the current owner liked the brown interior enough to buy the truck.

Part of the deal with customers is they inevitably ask your opinion on things like color selections. I try real hard to never directly answer those types off questions. Main reason is that subjective thing I mentioned. I have installed all sorts of things that do not trip my personal trigger in vehicles, houses too when I was a builder. I do not judge. Taste is taste. There are lines in the sand, like a customer that wants an orange and white paint job. I'll do it but I already expressed my opinion to the owner.

 

[uzj100]

There is a world of people fascinated with these aluminum baja style wheels. I see them on lots of builds and never understood. Were they big back in the 70s and 80s around the baja scene? They are not my style at all on any 4x4 vehicle.

 

[NCFJ]

I put the set on my truck on it in 2002 when I bought the truck. Today, I'd leave the steel wheels and hub caps on it. I'v had thoughts of doing that, just for something different.

I am putting FJ Cruiser steelies with 40 series OEM hub caps on a 62 of mine. If the buyer of that truck does not like them I'll swap them out because I like them. They will also fit on my wife's 80

 

[JohnVee]

 

[Keep]

$100k and those wheels? I know its an easy fix, but spending that much money to build a 62 and spec'ing those? What is the thought process?

I know....thats why I said it was an easy fix, it is just odd to me that someone would EVER choose those wheels, not to mention when doing a full rebuild and advertising it on a world wide website for sale. No doubt its a beaut of a build!

Land Cruisers trade on nostalgia, and the proper wheels go A LONG WAY towards enhancing and completing that vibe and look. Might have sold for $105k+ with the proper wheels! Never know. For sure would not have hurt the value.

When I see ill fitting, aftermarket and odd wheels, I always question what other weird and odd choices the vehicle owner made.

As the seller of that truck I'll try to justify my horrific taste in wheels! I had always planned to update them but focused more on the swap, updating the technology and comfort of the interior to modernize it first. They were part of the build by the PO and I liked the overall look of that truck enough to buy it. There was a comment in the BaT auction about how solid colors sell better than two tone. Personally I love the two tone 62s. Taste is subjective. I can assure you, the choice of leaving those wheels on did not change the quality of the build, as Stan can attest to first hand.

 

[lt1fire]

@lt1fire Check out this G. This dude is in cali and installed the portals himself. It sounds pretty sweet. G-Wagen to the rescue! - Club G-Wagen Forum - https://clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21218

CA or CO?

There is a guy in CA I loosly know through some buddies that is doing a 6bt swap with portals into a G.

Every six months or so I search for 5.99 volvo portals but they are super rare these days.

 

[FJ Noob]

I know....thats why I said it was an easy fix, it is just odd to me that someone would EVER choose those wheels, not to mention when doing a full rebuild and advertising it on a world wide website for sale. No doubt its a beaut of a build!

Land Cruisers trade on nostalgia, and the proper wheels go A LONG WAY towards enhancing and completing that vibe and look. Might have sold for $105k+ with the proper wheels! Never know. For sure would not have hurt the value.

When I see ill fitting, aftermarket and odd wheels, I always question what other weird and odd choices the vehicle owner made.

There are folks that like those wheels, I have a set on my pickup.

Build your truck with any wheels that trip your trigger. "Proper" wheels is highly subjective. Every single choice on a vehicle is subjective. That vehicle that just sold for $100K had the subjective choices of at least two owners, that I know of. Personally I am not a fan of brown interiors, I prefer black and shades of gray. But the PO and the current owner liked the brown interior enough to buy the truck.

Part of the deal with customers is they inevitably ask your opinion on things like color selections. I try real hard to never directly answer those types off questions. Main reason is that subjective thing I mentioned. I have installed all sorts of things that do not trip my personal trigger in vehicles, houses too when I was a builder. I do not judge. Taste is taste. There are lines in the sand, like a customer that wants an orange and white paint job. I'll do it but I already expressed my opinion to the owner.

I guess that's where the saying "One man's trash is another man's treasure" came from.

I personally don't pay much attention to wheels as long as they "feel" right for the truck. I see wheel styles that I really don't like on one 60-series, but then think they look awesome on another build...don't know why, but I like what I like.

Separately... @NCFJ ...I would assume you know the labor and costs involved pretty well Is that $43K selling price for the 4BT one that just sold anywhere near covering the work that was done on it? The engine swap aside, I have a general idea of what went into the interior and paint from plodding along on my own project and it seems like this could've been a "loser"...(if you are trying to recoup/make some $$$).

 

[lt1fire]

In terms of land cruisers I'd say a chevy LS or LT based swap will add more value that most diesel swaps, especially a 4bt. Cruiser prices are already retarded high and the kind of people that are shelling out for them are parking lot warrior yuppies. (not all of course) So with that said a Cheby V8 is a great choice as it is relatively quite (if you want it to be) and very civil. One thing about the ZR1 corvettes that always impresses lots of Euopean car magazine writers is how civil and easy they are to drive around in everyday.
With a diesel they are generally loud and produce vibration and smells that most people aren't used to. Plus lots of people still for some reason see a diesel as an alien powered device. Hell for the most part in the US if you take a 1HDT powered 80 and a 1fz powered 80, with the same mods and everything else, miles, condition, etc, being equal the 1fz normally sells for more on BAT. Crazy to me but that is just the market here.
Personally I don't think you can go wrong with either power plant but its just a personal taste these days and if you are doing it to resell it for maximum profit then a chevy v8 would be the way to go. All of this is IMHO

 

[NCFJ]

@FJ Noob Dave, it's opinion but I'd say the owner of that truck lost on the deal. If it was all built in his own garage, he may have made a few bucks on the deal. The 62 with the LS3, owner bought it played with it, had it swapped and all the other work here, new interior played with it for 5 years and then sold it at a profit! I love the current classic car market, sure hope that it lasts.

 

[uzj100]

CA or CO?

There is a guy in CA I loosly know through some buddies that is doing a 6bt swap with portals into a G.

Every six months or so I search for 5.99 volvo portals but they are super rare these days.

Switzerland Trail in Colorado is where the guy is located. He basically runs the trail and recovers folks. He said the snow was at 24 inches.

 

[SFROMAN]

This one sold yesterday.

Cummins-Powered 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed

Bid for the chance to own a Cummins-Powered 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #66,266.

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I am currently building a 62 with a 4 bt Cummins, 4l80E trans, np205 case.

I will also be redoing the interior ( new leather, new carpet, sound reading, etc. along with paint and body

My plan is not to build it just to turn around and sell it but I would be very happy if I had to sell and it sold it for $42k.

Having said that. I also think that the best way to improve a landcruiser is to replace the Toyota engine with a v8 ( LS motors being the best bang for the buck) and one day in the near future I will be doing an LS Swap into a land cruiser.

 

[NCFJ]

Need an NV4500?

 

[roflbox]

not liking these gas prices

 

[lt1fire]

not liking these gas prices

what's the average price there now?

Need an NV4500?

I think auto's also add more value..... (the whole yuppie parking lot thing)

But if Del isn't interested in it I may be later on in the year, still haven't completely decided on if i'm going auto or manual when I do the diesel swap. Is it a chevy or dodge NV?

 

[roflbox]

what's the average price there now?

I think auto's also add more value..... (the whole yuppie parking lot thing)

But if Del isn't interested in it I may be later on in the year, still haven't completely decided on if i'm going auto or manual when I do the diesel swap. Is it a chevy or dodge NV?

3.63 at sams club / costco, 3.83 elsewhere

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