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Meanwhile I was up the ladder, did the job came down, had some coffee with the guy footing the ladder and put the ladder back on the truck.
Ahhh, but the Engineer designing that floor coating needs to have a job too
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I am with you Ramon. I was accepted at Lafayette University, Mechanical engineering. I took all the basic stuff for my degree at a community college because I was footing the bill myself. I absolutely HATED college, thought it would be better than HS, not so much. Funny thing, I ended up earning a living as an architect for 7 years prior to the crash in 08. I had a structural engineer, the man that designed and built the 7 mile bridge in the Keys, review and stamp all my prints.It took me a long time to figure out we do not all learn the same way. Class rooms do not work for me. Show me in real life once and I am good to go.
It took me a long time to figure out we do not all learn the same way. Class rooms do not work for me. Show me in real life once and I am good to go.
There truly does need to be a way of getting our engineering kids (All STEM majors for that matter) into the "field". I asked a friend of mine that is a project manager at Volvo Truck what he sees coming out of college .... "sad" he said. Kids being hired with ME degrees that have never been under the hood, much less solved a real problem.
Now if only I could get a class set of refrigerators for my lab. <--- truth is, my class set of 18" x 36" plywood shelves do just great.
I know this isn't the right thread... But I couldn't find the "Landcruisers in media" or whatever thread.
Newish Hancook tire commercial = Probably already posted...
Newish Hancook tire commercial = Probably already posted...
RedHeadedStepChild
Proudly wearing my MC1R mutation!
It seems there are a lot of kids that get pushed towards engineering simply because they do well on math test. From my experience, if that skill set does not come with intense curiosity about the inner workings of things and some real world experience with a wrench, hammer, multi-meter, mill, lathe, etc. you get sub-par engineers.
We now require a 3.0 or better for a recent grad to even qualify for an interview, but HR tends not to credit experience. Some of the better engineers I know, could not get an interview, let alone be hired, now.
I was working with a young the design engineer to salvage a piece of non-conforming hardware. We had an edge-break .0005" over max. When we finally got the kid out here from Cincinnati, I showed him one that's conforming and the deviated part.
He says, "I can't see a difference."
Me: "I know."
Him: "Wow, it looks a lot bigger on my screen."
We now require a 3.0 or better for a recent grad to even qualify for an interview, but HR tends not to credit experience. Some of the better engineers I know, could not get an interview, let alone be hired, now.
I was working with a young the design engineer to salvage a piece of non-conforming hardware. We had an edge-break .0005" over max. When we finally got the kid out here from Cincinnati, I showed him one that's conforming and the deviated part.
He says, "I can't see a difference."
Me: "I know."
Him: "Wow, it looks a lot bigger on my screen."
We should get him on Mud. That's a nice looking 40. Already have one famous photographer on the forum @theron
Chris Burkard is a great fella
He posts some amazing images on his IG feed: ChrisBurkard (@chrisburkard) • Instagram photos and videos
Maaaaaan, do I have some stories about young engineers... When I worked at Northrop Grumman, a great deal of the older engineers were tremendously intelligent mechanics that knew how to build the product and were "promoted" in to a technical role. They were in every field of the various engineering departments and they knew their subject matter very well. They obviously knew more than the kids coming out of college because there is no substitute for experience... The college grads generally caught on quick - provided they were open to listening to the experienced folks and willing to go out to the product.
Boeing used to do the same thing, from what I understand, but it's now pretty challenging to get hired on as an engineer here. All of these kids run circles around me when it comes to textbook engineering problems. In reality, we don't have textbook engineering problems on the aircraft. Jim, I know what you're talking about with the 0.0005 inch non-conformance... It DOES look bigger on the computer screen! In our department, the engineer is ALWAYS required to view the non-conforming product when providing a disposition. The disposition normally turns out to be the same regardless, but a 0.003 inch gouge on a metal part sure isn't very deep in reality.
Electrical Engineering is still inexplicable sorcery and magic. If you ever want to see something fun, ask a group of electrical design engineers how much insulation can be missing from a wire before the product performance is impacted. Yelling, cursing, and gnashing of teeth will follow.
Boeing used to do the same thing, from what I understand, but it's now pretty challenging to get hired on as an engineer here. All of these kids run circles around me when it comes to textbook engineering problems. In reality, we don't have textbook engineering problems on the aircraft. Jim, I know what you're talking about with the 0.0005 inch non-conformance... It DOES look bigger on the computer screen! In our department, the engineer is ALWAYS required to view the non-conforming product when providing a disposition. The disposition normally turns out to be the same regardless, but a 0.003 inch gouge on a metal part sure isn't very deep in reality.
Electrical Engineering is still inexplicable sorcery and magic. If you ever want to see something fun, ask a group of electrical design engineers how much insulation can be missing from a wire before the product performance is impacted. Yelling, cursing, and gnashing of teeth will follow.
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wow. Makes me wonder why I'm not just travelling around the world in a LC with a camera and a dog...
Oh, right. Wife, kids, job and a corporate machine that needs my blood for it's gear oil....
If I'm not a total invalid when I retire, I'm going overlanding...
Oh, right. Wife, kids, job and a corporate machine that needs my blood for it's gear oil....
If I'm not a total invalid when I retire, I'm going overlanding...
lumbee1
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I'm in the IT field and you should see the college grads coming in with Computer Science and Computer Engineering degrees. Some have never seen the inside of a computer but can describe in detail transistors and registers in a processor and how they work. They are some of the most worthless individuals and only because they have enough brains to pass college do they eventually make it in IT. I've had to sit down and describe the differences between a 10Gb network and a 1Gb network to an engineer with a masters degree in Computer Science. In the end they still didn't get it but just agreed with what I said.
I'm like Stan. I'm a do'er. Give me a hammer, nails, and wood and I will build it. Give me a computer and a problem and I will fix it. Give me a rough idea of what you want and I will design it. The kids nowadays just can't do it. Before my kids go to high school, they will know how to use a hammer, welder, tablesaw, build a computer, use Linux, landscape a yard, compose a photo properly, lay tile, finish sheetrock, change oil, etc.....
I'm like Stan. I'm a do'er. Give me a hammer, nails, and wood and I will build it. Give me a computer and a problem and I will fix it. Give me a rough idea of what you want and I will design it. The kids nowadays just can't do it. Before my kids go to high school, they will know how to use a hammer, welder, tablesaw, build a computer, use Linux, landscape a yard, compose a photo properly, lay tile, finish sheetrock, change oil, etc.....
Very cool. Likes cruisers and an obvious dog fan ... win win. @theron , big thanks for the smiles your pictures provided me today.
I see a point with what you are saying, and I know there are people that learn hands on. Hell, I struggled with the EE curriculum - mainly the very high level maths while living the life of a business major. Probably the main reason I haven't been in a true technical role in a long, long time. Most kids that go through an IT "Technical" curriculum will be much better equipped out of the box for the type of stuff I think you are describing. Engineering majors should be writing code, designing hardware, theorizing new transmission methods, etc.
I will say though, somebody designed that 10G network at some point, and someone designed those chips and the wrote the code to go along with it. That takes a lot of math, theory, and really smart people - a lot of who probably couldn't swap the alternator on their car if their life depended on it. Takes a lot of both to make the world go round.
My parents called me this morning and said their country club was having their first annual car show (Cramer Mountain). Drove over and checked it out.
Mabel got some interest but mostly people were interested in the $400k+ Lamborghini. That took People's Choice award. Best original went to the Chevy truck and best modified went to the 1940s Ford (5 window?). The rat rod was really sweet
Mabel got some interest but mostly people were interested in the $400k+ Lamborghini. That took People's Choice award. Best original went to the Chevy truck and best modified went to the 1940s Ford (5 window?). The rat rod was really sweet
My favorite was this FJ40 that was just restored:
Ooh and this duece and a half
Ooh and this duece and a half
