Build Max Powerzz gets Max Power, or Watch Me Pull a Rabbit out of my Hat!

[alaska60]

Max,

I'm in the market for the TG sliders as well so i checked out your link. I'm away from the Yeti right now so I can't confirm but the price you listed above is for 58" sliders. Pretty sure you want the 67" for $142. I probably knew this but I wanted to make sure you didn't order the wrong ones.

Hey phil,
we did order 67's for this project. however, like we stated in the post with the link.....the 58's are for his fj40. their still too big but we will cut some off (about 12 inches) and incorporate the cut off to the rear corners

 

[alaska60]

I would do an in-tank pump setup, I think its worth the extra work in the long run... It all depends on what the owner wants though...

Good job BTW!!

Can I ask why?

I have one of these swaps going on 4 years with no pump issues on the inline. Besides I can change this pump out in less then 5 minutes with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers.. and thats on the side of the road, if need be.

Have fun dropping the tank to swap the internal.

We also swapped to a fj60 tank too. And yes the customer is "almost" always right

 

[alaska60]

hey- that blue patch on the tailgate, its my contribution! looking good- especially in person. go team "el barno"

I do believe that will be the only contribution!

we miss you bro.
come visit when you roll through.

 

[alaska60]

Here is a fun tid bit on starters. Here is a picture of a standard chevy starter compared to the gear reduction style starter. The gear reduction starter is far more shorter which worked well with this application. It helped clear the pass side header and is much stronger unit with the gear reduction. Not to mention the weight difference of 15 pounds or so...
cool little unit.

 

[alaska60]

Hey philthyphil.....
heres that russel 40 micron filter for the pre pump....And, "yes" this solved my whiney pump issue. The best part of this filter is that its fully serviceable. just take it apart, clean it and put it back together and reinstall. lifetime!

 

[alaska60]

Maxpowerzz came and took the 62 for the weekend.....


We went for a little rip down the hiway before he left. Boy its amazing to go 90mph in a fj62 uphill.

Im sure he's having a fun weekend!

 

[philthyphil]

Hey Phil,
I dont "think" the pre filter will stop the whine. I know it will stop the whine. In fact it did stop the whine. I was running a standard land cruiser filter with the ports on top of the filter. It was causing air flow. I swapped to a russel filter 40 micron from summit racing. its a low pressure filter. Problem solved my friend. I have a Walbro 255 pump inline. The OEM pump doesnt put out nearly enough pressure that the vortec needs.... which is 58 pounds. the walbro 255 puts out 60 pounds. And yes I have a $100 filter between the pump and engine. I have done of few of these vortec swaps before and I have always run this pump and filters....I just tried to use a different pre pump filter and it bit me in the ass.

Alaska,

What is the $100 filter between the pump and the engine? Is it the same Russel filter? I just have a $30 Napa filter before the pump. Thanks for the tip, I'm going to try this and see if it gets rid of the whine.

 

[philthyphil]

Hey phil,
we did order 67's for this project. however, like we stated in the post with the link.....the 58's are for his fj40. their still too big but we will cut some off (about 12 inches) and incorporate the cut off to the rear corners

I dig, just doing my part as a spectator here...

 

[dbleon]

Can I ask why?

I have one of these swaps going on 4 years with no pump issues on the inline. Besides I can change this pump out in less then 5 minutes with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers.. and thats on the side of the road, if need be.

Have fun dropping the tank to swap the internal.

We also swapped to a fj60 tank too. And yes the customer is "almost" always right

Inline pumps have a pretty bad track record, especially in warm climates.

I have an access hole in the rear cargo area. I too can change the pump in five minutes flat, and I dont have to crawl under the vehicle (in snow, rain, mud, etc)

to each is own.. eh

 

[alaska60]

I have an access hole in the rear cargo area. I too can change the pump in five minutes flat, and I dont have to crawl under the vehicle (in snow, rain, mud, etc)

to each is own.. eh

did you custom cut that hole in your cargo area?

I just use the lift when I need to do work on the underside.... laying down is for rookies.

But you are right...to each is own..

 

[phishincruisin]

I have an inline pump in my swap. The same Walbro 255 and I'm running a similar serviceable pre-filter. I've driven across the country 3 times on the swap, running 12-14 hour days at 80 mph with air temps in the 90s. Even doing 75 on I-70 in Colorado, up the passes, I didn't have any issues. My truck has been fully loaded each time, I could barely see out the top of the rear window. I'm with alaska60, I think a properly setup inline works great!
Nice looking work on the swap. Glad to see another vortec 60!

 

[alaska60]

Thank you sir.....(phishincruisin)

Im going with my years of experience and trial and error over the last 25 years of screwing around with these rigs. dbleon has a point too. however, his point is based on others knowledge and opinions. He really wasnt sure what route to go with the fuel pump on his build either. In fact he was ready to go inline until one particular person suggested a intank pump....

oh well, its apples and oranges or tomato or tamatoe or something like that.. The inline is easy and runs great when properly set up. also, the spare pump fits in the glove box too.

 

[Finnyfam60]

did you custom cut that hole in your cargo area?

I have the same access in the cargo area. '83 60.

 

[dbleon]

Thank you sir.....(phishincruisin)

Im going with my years of experience and trial and error over the last 25 years of screwing around with these rigs. dbleon has a point too. however, his point is based on others knowledge and opinions. He really wasnt sure what route to go with the fuel pump on his build either. In fact he was ready to go inline until one particular person suggested a intank pump....

oh well, its apples and oranges or tomato or tamatoe or something like that.. The inline is easy and runs great when properly set up. also, the spare pump fits in the glove box too.

Absolutely correct, I am a novice landcruiser enthusiast. I know you're some kind of 'pro' and trying to turn this into a pissing contest, but I am just putting my two cents in. I think an inline pump is cutting corners....

Think about it, like 90% of fuel injected vehicles have pump-in-tank setups. I think the automotive engineers know what they are doing.

I can sense you are a little heated about my comments, so I will remove myself from your thread.

Cheers!!

 

[alaska60]

I have the same access in the cargo area. '83 60.

that access is for the sender not the pump the sender goes to your gas gauge..

your 83 fj60 does not have a pump in the tank. just the sender. Even the fj62 didnt have a service hole or plate in the cargo area....you have to drop the tank to change the pump. unless you cut the access hole for it.

 

[alaska60]

Absolutely correct, I am a novice landcruiser enthusiast. I know you're some kind of 'pro' and trying to turn this into a pissing contest, but I am just putting my two cents in. I think an inline pump is cutting corners....

Think about it, like 90% of fuel injected vehicles have pump-in-tank setups. I think the automotive engineers know what they are doing.

I can sense you are a little heated about my comments, so I will remove myself from your thread.

Cheers!!

sorry you feel that way. Im not heated at all. I have just done a few of these vortecs and know...when set up right, the fuel system will perform fine. Cutting corners is not what i do dude...
cutting corners is hacking into your cargo area and chopping a hole there.

I was just stating that your opinion is based on some one elses knowledge or opinion. mine is on my own experience for the past 25 years.

 

[alaska60]

I know you're some kind of 'pro' and trying to turn this into a pissing contest

I can sense you are a little heated about my comments, so I will remove myself from your thread.

Cheers!!

you can trust me on this as I was raised Quaker......
I dont like war or fighting or any kind of confrontations I am not heated. Im a lover not a hater. Thats the problem with text and writing as most people dont hear the sarcasm or tone that we are using. No worries bro I'm just stating facts here.

 

[dbleon]

Facts....

Fact is not formed by experience... fact is formed by disproving experience. It's called the scientific method. Otherwise people would still factually 'know' (through their experience) that the world is flat. They had to disprove their experiences to learn the true facts....

This is what the automotive engineers and scientists have done for decades. And guess what, the pump ended up inside the tank. I'll take that over your 'experience' any day.

Thats all I'll say..

Cheers again

 

[Finnyfam60]

that access is for the sender not the pump the sender goes to your gas gauge..

your 83 fj60 does not have a pump in the tank. just the sender. Even the fj62 didnt have a service hole or plate in the cargo area....you have to drop the tank to change the pump. unless you cut the access hole for it.

Good point. Would seem redundant since I have already had to play with my block mounted fuel pump!!!!

 

[alaska60]

Facts....

Fact is not formed by experience... fact is formed by disproving experience. It's called the scientific method. Otherwise people would still factually 'know' (through their experience) that the world is flat. They had to disprove their experiences to learn the true facts....

This is what the automotive engineers and scientists have done for decades. And guess what, the pump ended up inside the tank. I'll take that over your 'experience' any day.

Thats all I'll say..

Cheers again

I believe it was a sailors "experience" that proved that fact.

Not all factory fuel pumps are in the tank either.....do your homework before you bark.
Like I stated before, When an inline system is set up properly, it will work just fine.
The intank will work just fine too, however, you will need to cut a hole in your floor of the cargo area and make an access door, if you are not willing or able to drop your fuel tank to replace the pump.
Both work well when properly installed.

I continuously think of trail repairs.......from "experience"