Marlin T-Case Reduction

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Tapage said:
Hello Folks ..

How many MUD members can offer real trail feedback of those Marlin t-case reduction .. how it's been working for you ..

all comments are appreciated ..

David
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I have about 3000 off road miles on the gears. They have worked flawless and are quieter then the stock set up. You want 2nd gear start without it you life will suck. You also want OD in low range...some have it stock some needs the mod.

Bottom line money well spent.
 
I don't have 2nd gear start (94), but I'm in if some kind of group buy can get worked out. This has been on my new list since the old list got done.

And oh yeah, and a new suspension since I killed the springs at GSMTR. :doh:
 
Rwhat said:
Heard back from Sales at Marlin. It's a no go.
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Greedy bastards ;)

I want the gears too. But not yet. A GB probably would have given me a reason to buy them right now. Never understood why many companies aren't willing to take advantage of GBs and bring in a nice chunk of money all at once...
 
There is not a lot of mark up on these sets...so the no go group buy makes sense. If you think about the cost, it is cheap for what you are getting back in return. Especially given the other option out there which I did actually consider. If you have good trail skill now with stock, then your skill level jumps up more so with a set of gears.
This low range set is not much more than a set of longs up front. What makes the cost go up are the rebuild parts i.e. bearings and seals. Also any labour costs from a shop install. Only makes sense given all the miles on these trucks to do a bearing job. Truth be known, the only bearings that show the most wear are the tcase outputs as they are not preloaded TRB's from what I have seen. Also a good time to replace the seals and remove a VC.
Those sitting on the fence, find someone local with a set and go for a ride. You will be off that fence rather quickly.....and those local to me..hit me up if need be. I even have a set of gears in my inventory and a separated tcase to show you what gets replaced.
Also keep in mind this is a torque multiplier so "less hammer the throttle" shock load when trailing. Easing up obstacles is easier. Not to mention down hill compression braking. My two c's.
 
scotia said:
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....and those local to me..hit me up if need be. I even have a set of gears in my inventory and a separated tcase to show you what gets replaced.
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I will prob take you up on this as soon as I get my junk back together. I'm hoping someone at SCC will be equipped for a test ride.
 
Rwhat said:
Heard back from Sales at Marlin. It's a no go.
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That was somehow expected .. I wasn't holding my breath .. if they put some good amount of those gears at reduced " introductory " price at first and folks are just plain happy with 'em ..

From market point I see no reason to not make more profit .. ( I'm sure they will making some at reduced price .. )
 
Is $100 off the price going to make any difference? The price of these gears is what it is. There is a lot of work that went into designing them and making them available sitting in stock on the shelf ready to go. Only Marlin has stepped up to do this for us.

Given all the other work that installing these gears will entail, and all the other parts you need to make it worthwhile (lockers, tires, differential gearing), not to mention the thousands of dollars of fuel it will take to get you to Moab or the Sierra, where you actually need these gears, $100 is nothing. In fact if it's a critical difference, you should save the cash for groceries, rent or your kid's new shoes.

If you want them. pony up and buy them. Marlin is a good guy who has invested big in making something otherwise unobtainable to 80 and 100 series drivers. He's not overcharging, gouging, or trying to squeeze every drop of profit. Like everything else in his business, he's charging a fair price.
 
By no means i'm complaining about his price. I know they put a lot of R&D into this gear set and as stated before in other threads Marlin and his company have done a awesome job of producing this for a vehicle that hasn't been produced in the US for 16 years.

However myself like the other people like "good deals", but if i could purchase them at the price they had them on sale at last, it would save me a huge chunk of change. I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
 
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Ill just wait till there on sale again... Hopefully soon
 
I would be in for a set too. A discount isnt going to make or break the deal for me though. It would be nice however. That is a tank of gas. :-) The gears are on the horizon for me.
 
Buckru said:
The group buy would be awesome as I'm sticking with stock gears. The turbo should make up for that :grinpimp:
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That's what I'm thinking! It would be nice to have lower gearing going down hill tho...
 
Rwhat said:
By no means i'm complaining about his price. I know they put a lot of R&D into this gear set and as stated before in other threads Marlin and his company have done a awesome job of producing this for a vehicle that hasn't been produced in the US for 16 years.

However myself like the other people like "good deals", but if i could purchase them at the price they had them on sale at last, it would save me a huge chunk of change. I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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Bingo.

Here's the thing - in life, you get a MUCH better chance of paying less for goods (be it a car, parts, or just about anything) if you don't need it *right now*. The instant gratification issues that many of us have (guilty!) are worse in today's world than they might have been years ago.

All that aside, I know I want these gears, and I'm going to buy them. It's just a matter of when. So I, like others in this thread, will keep an eye on the price, and if we can get a better deal between now and then, we'll jump on it.

If not, I'll buy it when I "need" it. Which usually ends up being the week before GSMTR :)
 
I may be mistaken but I believe that these are Marks gears. Marlin is distributor. Think a vendor of mine may have mentioned it. Maybe someone from MC can verify. Not that it matters though.
Back to the point of cost, I agree that money can be spent elsewhere. Unless a truck is built with a heavy drivetrain, I would probably talk someone out of them due to the torque multiplying effect. If you have a weak link, it may be found sooner than you think. Weak link for me is hub lock rings then the font mini truck diff. Hopefully hub ring first.
I might add that I have noticed this torque working the h€ll out of the motor and trans mount. The mini trucks had the same issue when 4.7's were introduced. Solution was heavier mounts or the ole' chain mod on passenger side. Can someone make some HD mounts please so I wont have to. Especially the trans mount. It gets rocked and NOT work hardened if you catch my drift.
 
Cruiserdrew said:
Is $100 off the price going to make any difference? The price of these gears is what it is. There is a lot of work that went into designing them and making them available sitting in stock on the shelf ready to go. Only Marlin has stepped up to do this for us.

Given all the other work that installing these gears will entail, and all the other parts you need to make it worthwhile (lockers, tires, differential gearing), not to mention the thousands of dollars of fuel it will take to get you to Moab or the Sierra, where you actually need these gears, $100 is nothing. In fact if it's a critical difference, you should save the cash for groceries, rent or your kid's new shoes.

If you want them. pony up and buy them. Marlin is a good guy who has invested big in making something otherwise unobtainable to 80 and 100 series drivers. He's not overcharging, gouging, or trying to squeeze every drop of profit. Like everything else in his business, he's charging a fair price.
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He did not design these. He didn't invest big on anything these gears are the same ones that have been available in australia for years. All he did was make them available state side. That's it. We have been begging for years for a legit crawl box. He has come up with nothing.
 
Wrench said:
He did not design these. He didn't invest big on anything these gears are the same ones that have been available in australia for years. All he did was make them available state side. That's it. We have been begging for years for a legit crawl box. He has come up with nothing.
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Chris .... That is an awfully reductionist position to take.

You have to take into account the serious business risk it takes to design, test and bring to market a drivetrain product. It is not easy and it is not cheap.

Would you take possibly a $200K+ gamble on the possibility of making none of that money back?

I know I wouldn't; and I am guessing Marlin doesn't too because he is already doing good sticking to what he does and his market.

Same reasons why Toyota will never bring the 7x series here or a Diesel engine.

This isn't rocket science; it's just plain good business sense.
 
80/100 tcase gears

We offer these tcase gears as well. I run them in my 100. When they originally came out the price was $1000, so the $800 price is the 20% off price. This is what we sell them for as well, and well worth it in my opinion. Changing ring & Pinion ratio is much better as a first step for gearing to suit larger tires, as it will correctly alter both low and high range. Still with as heavy as these vehicles are, I really like the lower low range. It just feels right.
 
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