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Getting ready to prepare the site in the next two weeks. I decided to insulate the barn but I don’t think I’m going to add AC.

Will have a double sliding door on each end. Plus a 16 foot sliding door on one side.

The colors match my other building.

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Congratulations on the new addition to-be. I would like to share an experience on similarly placed sliding door on a machine shed that may have interest to you.

Years ago, my dad placed the sliding door on machine shed that he had built for the farm. That door was always problematic in high winds. A few years later in my low speed aerodynamic courses, I learned why. Flow around such a corner results in pockets of unsteady accelerated flow that buffeted and pulled outwardly on the door. In the case of our machine shed; in the coming years, the wind ripped it loose two or three times and it was hardened more each time it was replaced. In the final solution which never tore loose again, the door utilized several 4x4 re-enforcements that resulted in significant time to remove / then re-install these re-enforcements whenever the door was opened. This limited its utility as a door from then on.

Your case might be entirely different ... I have no insight into how you plan to place the building relative to the prevailing winds/topography/... So you have the true understanding of such a consideration and already planned for it. My apology for being such a worry-wart, but the scares of our experience have stuck with me.
 
LDowney said:
Congratulations on the new addition to-be. I would like to share an experience on similarly placed sliding door on a machine shed that may have interest to you.

Years ago, my dad placed the sliding door on machine shed that he had built for the farm. That door was always problematic in high winds. A few years later in my low speed aerodynamic courses, I learned why. Flow around such a corner results in pockets of unsteady accelerated flow that buffeted and pulled outwardly on the door. In the case of our machine shed; in the coming years, the wind ripped it loose two or three times and it was hardened more each time it was replaced. In the final solution which never tore loose again, the door utilized several 4x4 re-enforcements that resulted in significant time to remove / then re-install these re-enforcements whenever the door was opened. This limited its utility as a door from then on.

Your case might be entirely different ... I have no insight into how you plan to place the building relative to the prevailing winds/topography/... So you have the true understanding of such a consideration and already planned for it. My apology for being such a worry-wart, but the scares of our experience have stuck with me.
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I guess I can ask Morton about it. I actually got this idea a few weeks back when I took a day trip to Iowa to shop for a new tractor. My Morton rep got me to tour a number of Morton ag buildings and almost every one had a big sliding side door like this one. Will be super useful for getting the skid steer in and out.

I’ve also decided to add an extra 12 feet to the length. Total size now 36’ x 60’.
 
How thick of concrete did you use? Looks good! I’d love to have something like this to park the skid steer and tractors. Mind me asking how much you have in it?
 
greenbeast said:
How thick of concrete did you use? Looks good! I’d love to have something like this to park the skid steer and tractors. Mind me asking how much you have in it?
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6” slab. I think I have around $140k in building, site prep and concrete. Electrical, plumbing, HVAC and landscaping in the next few weeks.

I would also add that I could have absolutely built this cheaper with one of the many online building kits. I did that for a barn at my last property. Based on that experience, I would take Morton every day of the week.
 
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jomelo said:
6” slab. I think I have around $140k in building, site prep and concrete. Electrical, plumbing, HVAC and landscaping in the next few weeks.

I would also add that I could have absolutely built this cheaper with one of the many online building kits. I did that for a barn at my last property. Based on that experience, I would take Morton every day of the week.
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Been getting bids for hangar after local airport going to allow me to build one. Sure wish concrete was cheaper but everything is getting so expensive.
 
greenbeast said:
Been getting bids for hangar after local airport going to allow me to build one. Sure wish concrete was cheaper but everything is getting so expensive.
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I would never pour less than 6" Jon. Also would never use less than 4000 psi and would always insist on a machine troweled "slick" finish on interior floors.

Building looks nice @jomelo Maybe I missed it but what are the dimensions?
 
WarDamnEagle said:
I would never pour less than 6" Jon. Also would never use less than 4000 psi and would always insist on a machine troweled "slick" finish on interior floors.

Building looks nice @jomelo Maybe I missed it but what are the dimensions?
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These are actually the specs on this particular slab. 4000 psi and 6” with a slick finish.

Dimensions are 36’ wide and 56’ long. The trusses are spaced on 8’.
 
@jomelo Do you recall what lights you used on your ceiling? I'm putting together a shop with a vaulted ceiling and using the metal liner panel similar to what you have done.

I'd ike to find an LED light that is solid mounted and fits between the ribs on the panel. Light shopping is pretty daunting...
 
Oregon LC said:
@jomelo Do you recall what lights you used on your ceiling? I'm putting together a shop with a vaulted ceiling and using the metal liner panel similar to what you have done.

I'd ike to find an LED light that is solid mounted and fits between the ribs on the panel. Light shopping is pretty daunting...
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Just to clarify, you have a vaulted ceiling (pitch would be helpful) inside the shop and you want to flat mount panel LEDs? If my understanding is correct, I don't think that's going to work very well. So my understanding is probably wrong......
 
WarDamnEagle said:
Just to clarify, you have a vaulted ceiling (pitch would be helpful) inside the shop and you want to flat mount panel LEDs? If my understanding is correct, I don't think that's going to work very well. So my understanding is probably wrong......
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My ceiling is 4/12 pitch. I am guessing that John's is about the same. I attached a picture from earlier in the thread with the lights in question.

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Oregon LC said:
My ceiling is 4/12 pitch. I am guessing that John's is about the same. I attached a picture from earlier in the thread with the lights in question.
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I guess it depends on how much light you want. I used 16 15000 lumen flat panels hung evenly around 16' high in my 40 x 40 shop. That calculates to a little over 100 ft-candles everywhere at 30" above the floor. It's bright but definitely not too much light when you start working on something.
 
WarDamnEagle said:
I guess it depends on how much light you want. I used 16 15000 lumen flat panels hung evenly around 16' high in my 40 x 40 shop. That calculates to a little over 100 ft-candles everywhere at 30" above the floor. It's bright but definitely not too much light when you start working on something.
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Do you have a pic? That’s about the size of my barn and I definitely need more light.
 
Crush 4 said:
Do you have a pic? That’s about the size of my barn and I definitely need more light.
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Another boat project. Picked up this really early Hells Bay a few months ago. This gorgeous skiff was covered in seadek material and I have decided to rip it up and clean her up a little. In the meantime, HB notified me my new skiff was ready to build. I’m now scrambling around trying to figure out how to fit two of these plus the trucks. I think I have a plan that does not involve selling anything.


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jomelo said:
Another boat project. Picked up this really early Hells Bay a few months ago. This gorgeous skiff was covered in seadek material and I have decided to rip it up and clean her up a little. In the meantime, HB notified me my new skiff was ready to build. I’m now scrambling around trying to figure out how to fit two of these plus the trucks. I think I have a plan that does not involve selling anything.


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