Nice job. I saw it last night and the photos don't do it justice. There's a LOT of steel back there now.
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Yeah, the center of gravity on the frame currently is about at the center of the rear wheel. It is really funny to move, because I can easily pick up the front of the frame when the jack is on the rear shock mount tube.
Now, most of that weight is the rear bumper that the ppo put on it. I left the bumper on it because it will be perfect to support a wheel carrier that will swing out of the way for the tailgate to operate. (assuming I can find hinges)
As Andrew knows, when the front bumper is made and installed, it should balance the weight out....... I found a deal on a bunch of 3/4 plate -- enough to make several bumpers. Now, we need to find a plasma, water jet or something that can cut it for us.
k
Now, most of that weight is the rear bumper that the ppo put on it. I left the bumper on it because it will be perfect to support a wheel carrier that will swing out of the way for the tailgate to operate. (assuming I can find hinges)
As Andrew knows, when the front bumper is made and installed, it should balance the weight out....... I found a deal on a bunch of 3/4 plate -- enough to make several bumpers. Now, we need to find a plasma, water jet or something that can cut it for us.
k
you can borrow my compressor when you get to the blasting part. It should keep up.. It kept up with chef and I running 2 d/a sanders at the same time 8 hours a day for 3 days sanding his 45lv
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por15
Well, last week a got a call on Tuesday that it was going to be warmer, so we rolled the frame outside and sandblasted the small sections I could not get to with the wire wheel, and just about when we needed it, the Marine Clean was delivered from MSC via UPS. We got it all cleaned up, did the metal prep and then carried the frame over to my workshop to dry. On Friday, we were able to blow it off and painted two coats of POR 15 gloss blackon everything, and three on the front and rear exposed areas. I plan on blowing clear on the front and back next spring.
It looks great, and I am just looking forward to getting the tub sitting on the frame so I can start fabbing up the sliders.
Next, I need to work on the axles so I can get a rolling frame.
Well, last week a got a call on Tuesday that it was going to be warmer, so we rolled the frame outside and sandblasted the small sections I could not get to with the wire wheel, and just about when we needed it, the Marine Clean was delivered from MSC via UPS. We got it all cleaned up, did the metal prep and then carried the frame over to my workshop to dry. On Friday, we were able to blow it off and painted two coats of POR 15 gloss blackon everything, and three on the front and rear exposed areas. I plan on blowing clear on the front and back next spring.
It looks great, and I am just looking forward to getting the tub sitting on the frame so I can start fabbing up the sliders.
Next, I need to work on the axles so I can get a rolling frame.
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Just FYI the POR fade over time. If ya want it to stay purdy you'll need to use there primer then top coat it. If not don't worry about it..... I didn't 
in one of those first pictures.. why are there 3 empty kegs on a shelf.. shouldn't those be filled with frosty barley pops and used during this project?
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Good eye!! Did you find Waldo in any pictures?
Those are to for future use as a brew setup for brewing beer. Don't worry, there is pleanty of beer here!! I have a couple of 5 gallons of homebrew currently to drink. If our annual meeting is somewhere we can have alcohol this year, I will bring some.
Oh, and thanks for the offer on the air compressor. I plan on taking you up on that this spring. I am about ready to go into hiding until late April. Trying to get everything to a holding point.
Kelly
Those are to for future use as a brew setup for brewing beer. Don't worry, there is pleanty of beer here!! I have a couple of 5 gallons of homebrew currently to drink. If our annual meeting is somewhere we can have alcohol this year, I will bring some.
Oh, and thanks for the offer on the air compressor. I plan on taking you up on that this spring. I am about ready to go into hiding until late April. Trying to get everything to a holding point.
Kelly
See you in april!
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Baby step
Well, althought my compressor is undersized, I have been going out between work a few times a day and beadblasting parts in the harbor freight cabinet. After a few weeks of this, I had quite a stack of parts. Some needed welding, some needed patches, so I kept working on it here and there. So last weekend it was really nice and warm, so I took the pieces out on the drive, degreased and acid etched them, and took them into the shop to POR 15. Some are for the 75 and some are for the 68', so there are some duplicate parts in there.
On the rear axle, the transmission bellhousing and the front axle, I sandblasted it outside using sand. I bought every type of sand at depot and lowes, and finally found at Lowes some Sackrete medium cut sand. It was by far the best. Not many large pieces of sand, and cut really fast. I heard to try play sand, but Lowes was wet, and the HD did not cut well, and had large chunks.
I started putting the disk brakes conversion on. My father in law bought them from Ruffstuff for my Christmas present in 2007...... YEAH finally getting to it..... well they did not fit. I tried forward and back, flipped sides, nothing worked. I called them, and it ended up they had a bad batch, and he thought all were replaced. So, I have to wait on that. I mocked it up (notice no brake pads in the pictures) so I could make the flex brake line mount, then ground all the welds on the member and cleaned it all up. The only problem was that after I sandblasted, a small leak started out of the axle shaft coming into the pumpkin. I ordered a new seal from SO, however I really should at some time have someone who understand rear axles teach me about what to look for and see if everything is good.
I took apart the springs, ground them and cleaned them up and got them ready for paint.
Ordered new spring bushings from SO. What I am excited about is that when they come in , I actually may be able to start putting this thing back together!
Well, althought my compressor is undersized, I have been going out between work a few times a day and beadblasting parts in the harbor freight cabinet. After a few weeks of this, I had quite a stack of parts. Some needed welding, some needed patches, so I kept working on it here and there. So last weekend it was really nice and warm, so I took the pieces out on the drive, degreased and acid etched them, and took them into the shop to POR 15. Some are for the 75 and some are for the 68', so there are some duplicate parts in there.
On the rear axle, the transmission bellhousing and the front axle, I sandblasted it outside using sand. I bought every type of sand at depot and lowes, and finally found at Lowes some Sackrete medium cut sand. It was by far the best. Not many large pieces of sand, and cut really fast. I heard to try play sand, but Lowes was wet, and the HD did not cut well, and had large chunks.
I started putting the disk brakes conversion on. My father in law bought them from Ruffstuff for my Christmas present in 2007...... YEAH finally getting to it..... well they did not fit. I tried forward and back, flipped sides, nothing worked. I called them, and it ended up they had a bad batch, and he thought all were replaced. So, I have to wait on that. I mocked it up (notice no brake pads in the pictures) so I could make the flex brake line mount, then ground all the welds on the member and cleaned it all up. The only problem was that after I sandblasted, a small leak started out of the axle shaft coming into the pumpkin. I ordered a new seal from SO, however I really should at some time have someone who understand rear axles teach me about what to look for and see if everything is good.
I took apart the springs, ground them and cleaned them up and got them ready for paint.
Ordered new spring bushings from SO. What I am excited about is that when they come in , I actually may be able to start putting this thing back together!
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Here are the other pics
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back from the dark
Well, tax season is over,
so I am finally back to the shop. My buddy Rob, and my other buddy Rob came over for a little work on the FJ. After spinning the fj over to get rid of all the dust (been a while) we started where we left off. I worked on fitting the tunnel to the new floorpan, and the Rob's worked on finishing the rocker installation.
So, this is oldschool.... Rob owened a body shop in Denver some years ago, and did high end work on Porsche and other imports. So, how oldschool... below are pics of him leading in the rockers.
I searched all over looking for lead. Nothing could be found local.
I found one place that I could find it online. Luckily Rob had enough for what we are doing, so I don't need to worry about that yet.
It looks awesome, but the really cool part for me is that I was able to see someone do leadwork.
There is some talent there. THanks Rob! and Rob!
Well, tax season is over,
so I am finally back to the shop. My buddy Rob, and my other buddy Rob came over for a little work on the FJ. After spinning the fj over to get rid of all the dust (been a while) we started where we left off. I worked on fitting the tunnel to the new floorpan, and the Rob's worked on finishing the rocker installation. So, this is oldschool.... Rob owened a body shop in Denver some years ago, and did high end work on Porsche and other imports. So, how oldschool... below are pics of him leading in the rockers.
I searched all over looking for lead. Nothing could be found local.
I found one place that I could find it online. Luckily Rob had enough for what we are doing, so I don't need to worry about that yet.It looks awesome, but the really cool part for me is that I was able to see someone do leadwork.
There is some talent there. THanks Rob! and Rob!
Looking good. After garbage sale this weekend and turkey season next week I'll start back in organizing shop mode..
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update
Been working a whole bunch on the rig. We got the tub over to the frame and mounted it up. Unfortuately realized that the tub got tweaked a little on the rotissarie and the prior work we did when it was not on a frame. SO>>>> I pulled out my parts car, stripped it down to the frame and then mounted the frame to the rotissarie for the final work. When we moved it over, the doors fit the same as when it was on the final frame. So, all is good.
We have been beating out all the little dents, and short Rob finished the leadwork on the rockers.
Then we wheeled the rotissarie outside and I started sandblasting. I started with the bottom, and I can tell you that rubberized undercoating works!! The sand took forever to get through it. I ended up scraping off most of it with a chisel.
Been working a whole bunch on the rig. We got the tub over to the frame and mounted it up. Unfortuately realized that the tub got tweaked a little on the rotissarie and the prior work we did when it was not on a frame. SO>>>> I pulled out my parts car, stripped it down to the frame and then mounted the frame to the rotissarie for the final work. When we moved it over, the doors fit the same as when it was on the final frame. So, all is good.
We have been beating out all the little dents, and short Rob finished the leadwork on the rockers.
Then we wheeled the rotissarie outside and I started sandblasting. I started with the bottom, and I can tell you that rubberized undercoating works!! The sand took forever to get through it. I ended up scraping off most of it with a chisel.
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doors
Since I could fit the door finally, I started working on the half doors. The donor doors were puchased by the PO, and really looked nice. Not much rust at all viewed from the inside, and on the outside was really straight and primed. My buddy (short Rob) kept asking me what was under the primer??? Since his background is owning a body shop, I decided that was a hint to grind off the primer. Well, I finally had to move the operation outside to contend with the 1/2 of bondo on it. Yep, someone decided that the word "skim coat" should be changed to "thick coats" After it all came off, the door really looked good. No rust, just a few little dents that I can get to with my cutting of the back.
Last year I had access to a large brake, so I bent the fillers out of 16 gauge metal, so I just cut them down. Unfortuately, I do most of my work in the early morning hours before my family wakes, and I was not awake one morning and ended up cutting two right door fillers, and no left. So, now I need to find a brake that can bend another 16 gauge metal filler panal.
I sandblasted the doors clean, then por 15 the inside. Next I will weld the fillers, and the custom stainless steel pocket that I made from an old towel dispenser that will fit inside the door.
Since I could fit the door finally, I started working on the half doors. The donor doors were puchased by the PO, and really looked nice. Not much rust at all viewed from the inside, and on the outside was really straight and primed. My buddy (short Rob) kept asking me what was under the primer??? Since his background is owning a body shop, I decided that was a hint to grind off the primer. Well, I finally had to move the operation outside to contend with the 1/2 of bondo on it. Yep, someone decided that the word "skim coat" should be changed to "thick coats" After it all came off, the door really looked good. No rust, just a few little dents that I can get to with my cutting of the back.
Last year I had access to a large brake, so I bent the fillers out of 16 gauge metal, so I just cut them down. Unfortuately, I do most of my work in the early morning hours before my family wakes, and I was not awake one morning and ended up cutting two right door fillers, and no left. So, now I need to find a brake that can bend another 16 gauge metal filler panal.
I sandblasted the doors clean, then por 15 the inside. Next I will weld the fillers, and the custom stainless steel pocket that I made from an old towel dispenser that will fit inside the door.
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fenders
Well, with Short Rob working on the lead work, I started in on all of the panals. Front fenders were both bashed in around the lights, and needed some patchwork by the running boards. The pic of the fender below kept reminding me of beattlejuice when he turned to a porkupine.
Again kudo's to Short Rob for leading this horse to water.... He was very patient teaching me to lead work, and holding my hand with several bodywork issues. He is getting ready to move to Denver, so I feel very lucky to have some of his time right now. He will be missed, not only for all the help, but because he is a great man.
The one setback was the rear tailgate, when I sandblasted it, the swiss cheese effect came on the bottom edge. I decided to see if I could just patch in the inside panal, so I cut it out. In the picture, you may see my finger.... look close, the welded nut is rusted so much, the threads are barely there still.
Not sure what to do here. My current thought is to weld a box steel "beam" across the entire bottom of the tailgate, to add some regidity to the door and make a patch for the entire back lower portion. I would have to put in some new welded nuts to replace the rusted ones.
I sandblasted the inside area, and it looks pretty good everywhere except that bottom edge. If anyone has any advice, I need it.
Thanks
Well, with Short Rob working on the lead work, I started in on all of the panals. Front fenders were both bashed in around the lights, and needed some patchwork by the running boards. The pic of the fender below kept reminding me of beattlejuice when he turned to a porkupine.
Again kudo's to Short Rob for leading this horse to water.... He was very patient teaching me to lead work, and holding my hand with several bodywork issues. He is getting ready to move to Denver, so I feel very lucky to have some of his time right now. He will be missed, not only for all the help, but because he is a great man.
The one setback was the rear tailgate, when I sandblasted it, the swiss cheese effect came on the bottom edge. I decided to see if I could just patch in the inside panal, so I cut it out. In the picture, you may see my finger.... look close, the welded nut is rusted so much, the threads are barely there still.
Not sure what to do here. My current thought is to weld a box steel "beam" across the entire bottom of the tailgate, to add some regidity to the door and make a patch for the entire back lower portion. I would have to put in some new welded nuts to replace the rusted ones.
I sandblasted the inside area, and it looks pretty good everywhere except that bottom edge. If anyone has any advice, I need it.
Thanks
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tub blasted
Well, got the tub finished blasted.... looks pretty good. Had some swiss cheese in the middle floorpan, and I tried to MIG some holes shut. I think I will put a patch in the worst spot. Otherwise it really is rust free. I feel really lucky to have found this FJ.
Well, got the tub finished blasted.... looks pretty good. Had some swiss cheese in the middle floorpan, and I tried to MIG some holes shut. I think I will put a patch in the worst spot. Otherwise it really is rust free. I feel really lucky to have found this FJ.
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Thanks Pam.... I am pushing soo hard to get it in primer..... I just got the primer from UPS, I went with the southern products that I posted up earlier. It appears to be the old DP 40 before it went all "save the universe" and changed it's formula. So a little more metalwork, clean up the shop, and shoot some primer.
Oh, and then there are other thoughts. I dug out all the old seam sealer, and I was wondering if we should weld the seams up.... any thoughts? A lot of work -- but no sacrafice, no victory...
Oh, and then there are other thoughts. I dug out all the old seam sealer, and I was wondering if we should weld the seams up.... any thoughts? A lot of work -- but no sacrafice, no victory...
i would just reseal the seams with new sealer, less chance of burn thru or warpage. and will look better in the end.
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primed
Well, got busy and got the last metal patches done after the sandblasting revealed some more areas with rust. I also welded most of the deep rust divots full and grinded them flast. Rob, I used your advice, and just welded it together as it was originally, and I will seamseal them later.
Then found a good calm warm day and primed everything. Shot over a gallon of epoxy, two good coats on everything. I had it on the spinner/rotissarie so I was able to get into every corner. That was really awesome.
Now, I have to set the project aside for a while..... I wish I could keep going, but I have other work that I have to get to.
Well, got busy and got the last metal patches done after the sandblasting revealed some more areas with rust. I also welded most of the deep rust divots full and grinded them flast. Rob, I used your advice, and just welded it together as it was originally, and I will seamseal them later.
Then found a good calm warm day and primed everything. Shot over a gallon of epoxy, two good coats on everything. I had it on the spinner/rotissarie so I was able to get into every corner. That was really awesome.
Now, I have to set the project aside for a while..... I wish I could keep going, but I have other work that I have to get to.